Man charged with D.C.-area subway bomb plot

[Sofiyya 1,687]

This tread is about Islamic terrorism.

This thread is about high fiving prejudice.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I indicated considerable gratitude to the Muslim who reported this guy to the FBI but am curious about your apparent lack of recognition to that fact. Why ignore it?

Because, in my world, concerned, law abiding Muslims who report crimes to the proper authorities are not anomalies I only read about online. They are everyday people, the norm.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

did he convert to Catholicism?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Because, in my world, concerned, law abiding Muslims who report crimes to the proper authorities are not anomalies I only read about online. They are everyday people, the norm.

and no one called them a terrorist....

[웃 910]

In the Muslim World, everyday is 9/11.....

October 29, 2010

Suicide Bomber Kills 21 North of Baghdad

BAGHDAD -- The mayor of an Iraqi town north of Baghdad says at least 21 people were killed and dozens injured when a suicide bomber detonated an explosives vest in a crowded cafe.

The mayor, Mohammed Maaruf, says that most of the dead and wounded were men playing dominos and drinking tea in the cafe when the explosion happened Friday evening.

The blast took place in the town of Balad Ruz, 45 miles (70 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad.

The neighborhood where the explosion occurred is home to many Shiites of Kurdish ethnicity and many of the dead and wounded were Shiites.

The bombing broke what has been a period of relative calm across Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/29/suicide-bomber-kills-north-baghdad/?test=latestnews

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

In the Muslim World, everyday is 9/11.....

October 29, 2010

Suicide Bomber Kills 21 North of Baghdad

BAGHDAD -- The mayor of an Iraqi town north of Baghdad says at least 21 people were killed and dozens injured when a suicide bomber detonated an explosives vest in a crowded cafe.

The mayor, Mohammed Maaruf, says that most of the dead and wounded were men playing dominos and drinking tea in the cafe when the explosion happened Friday evening.

The blast took place in the town of Balad Ruz, 45 miles (70 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad.

The neighborhood where the explosion occurred is home to many Shiites of Kurdish ethnicity and many of the dead and wounded were Shiites.

The bombing broke what has been a period of relative calm across Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/29/suicide-bomber-kills-north-baghdad/?test=latestnews

It is an anomaly. Usually such things are reported to authorities by other Muslims before the bomb explodes.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

and no one called them a terrorist....

The term "Islamic" infers that the person, place, thing, act or concept is of Islam and condoned by Islam. By claiming, correction, insisting, that terrorism is condoned, even advocated, by Islam, you either generalize the concept across the board as a legitimate practice that binds all practicing Muslims in practice, or, conversely, brands non-violent Muslims as less than observant to their faith because they condemn killing.

The idea that any declaration made by any Muslim in the name of God is valid simply because they believe it is insulting. Attributing violence upon innocents as a normative tenet of Islam because some say it is, and that they merely constitute another sect of the faith is insulting. A bunch of non-Muslims who have designated themselves instascholars about a religion they constantly disrespect has no grounds to claim superior knowledge, authority, or to insist that what they regurgitate from hate sites is absolute.

It's convenient to assert that Islam can be modified to suit anyone's agenda, including hostile non-Muslims, but that simply isn't true. There are plenty of basics, a great deal of depth and a solid core that, when violated, moves one away from the faith. Indiscriminate murder is unerringly one of them. We have Ten Commandments, too, and the killing of innocents is against our law, so preaching that a Muslim who murders or condones violence against those who do not believe as they do is doing something Islamic shows that your thinking has more in common with our enemies than with those who oppose them. With friends like that, who needs more enemies?

And, that's what's true.

Edited October 30, 2010 by Sofiyya

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The term "Islamic" infers that the person, place, thing, act or concept is of Islam and condoned by Islam. By claiming, correction, insisting, that terrorism is condoned, even advocated, by Islam, you either generalize the concept across the board as a legitimate practice that binds all practicing Muslims in practice, or, conversely, brands non-violent Muslims as less than observant to their faith because they condemn killing.

The idea that any declaration made by any Muslim in the name of God is valid simply because they believe it is insulting. Attributing violence upon innocents as a normative tenet of Islam because some say it is, and that they merely constitute another sect of the faith is insulting. A bunch of non-Muslims who have designated themselves instascholars about a religion they constantly disrespect has no grounds to claim superior knowledge, authority, or to insist that what they regurgitate from hate sites is absolute.

It's convenient to assert that Islam can be modified to suit anyone's agenda, including hostile non-Muslims, but that simply isn't true. There are plenty of basics, a great deal of depth and a solid core that, when violated, moves one away from the faith. Indiscriminate murder is unerringly one of them. We have Ten Commandments, too, and the killing of innocents is against our law, so preaching that a Muslim who murders or condones violence against those who do not believe as they do is doing something Islamic shows that your thinking has more in common with our enemies than with those who oppose them. With friends like that, who needs more enemies?

And, that's what's true.

RELAX its gonna be OKAY!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

It is an anomaly. Usually such things are reported to authorities by other Muslims before the bomb explodes.

So true . . . Thank you.

Another thing to consider: the constant complaint that Muslims don't speak out enough, or don't intervene effectively to stop terrorism is belied by the fact that some non-Muslims who purport to be against violence and looking for solutions refuse to listen to Muslims with similar concerns. When given the opportunity to have an exchange, they argue and insist they know more. If you're so sure I and Muslims like me don't know squat compared to you, you're unwilling to listen or do anything other than to criticize, why would you assume that those who want to blow us up for not wanting to join them would listen to us either? You deem terrorists to be Islamic, which means, in your minds, that peaceful Muslims are unIslamic. If not, why is there is so much resistance to any information that doesn't portray Islam as a villain, and tarnish all observant Muslims in the process?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Islamic Terrorists claim the faith supports their actions. That is a fact and stating it as fact gives no credence to their claims. It is merely a recitation of Islamic Terrorist claims.

Many Muslims FAILED to report the Fort Hood shooter, another fact which is inconsistent with claiming non-terrorist Muslims can always be counted upon to thwart Islamic Terrorists before they act. And that is just one recent example.

Thankfully this story shows that some Muslims can be counted on, which is less surprising than refreshing, at least to my mind.

Reality can be complicated and defending the faith in the face of so much negative publicity is no doubt a difficult task, but claiming pointing out facts is something to be ashamed of is just sad.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Islamic Terrorists claim the faith supports their actions. That is a fact and stating it as fact gives no credence to their claims. It is merely a recitation of Islamic Terrorist claims.

Many Muslims FAILED to report the Fort Hood shooter, another fact which is inconsistent with claiming non-terrorist Muslims can always be counted upon to thwart Islamic Terrorists before they act. And that is just one recent example.

Thankfully this story shows that some Muslims can be counted on, which is less surprising than refreshing, at least to my mind.

Reality can be complicated and defending the faith in the face of so much negative publicity is no doubt a difficult task, but claiming pointing out facts is something to be ashamed of is just sad.

Ignoring facts that don't serve your purpose is shameful. More military member non-Muslims FAILED to act upon multiple opportunities to detour Major Nidal, which must make non-Muslims always unreliable in the fight against home grown terrorism, a failure which goes back at least to the McVeigh/Nichols attack on the Alfred Murrah building. Defense of the faith is not the point here; education of ignorants who insist on carelessly using divisive and insulting terms that do nothing to create cohesion between groups that could be allies is the point you fail to grasp.

Why would Muslims voluntarily work with people who repeatedly infer that all Muslims are potential terrorists and that their faith advocates violence, as you do? Your gratitude is meaningless since you infer that any Muslim who reports potential violence is going against their faith, not adhering to it. Is that the impression you intend to present?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Ignoring facts that don't serve your purpose is shameful. More military member non-Muslims FAILED to act upon multiple opportunities to detour Major Nidal, which must make non-Muslims always unreliable in the fight against home grown terrorism, a failure which goes back at least to the McVeigh/Nichols attack on the Alfred Murrah building. Defense of the faith is not the point here; education of ignorants who insist on carelessly using divisive and insulting terms that do nothing to create cohesion between groups that could be allies is the point you fail to grasp.

Why would Muslims voluntarily work with people who repeatedly infer that all Muslims are potential terrorists and that their faith advocates violence, as you do? Your gratitude is meaningless since you infer that any Muslim who reports potential violence is going against their faith, not adhering to it. Is that the impression you intend to present?

McVeigh and Nichols for one didn't act on their own, and were more like patsy's for one if you understand anything about what happened that day. Secondly, the attack on the Murrah Federal building was no more terrorism than what the Federal agents did in Waco. Does that make it right? No, of course not. I'm just saying sometimes sweet revenge isn't terrorism. Motive is the key behind terrorism a lot of times.. McVeigh had hate for what happened in Waco and wanted vengeance for what happened. That makes him someone retaliating if anything at all. Not a terrorist in his role.

You don't see American strapping bombs to their chests EVERY DAMN DAY and walking into crowds, coffee shops, stores, malls, etc.. and terrorizing innocent people. You don't see Non-Islamic people strapping bombs to children and sending them in to do these things. The only other group of people that can be called guilty this day and age of doing that to children are Africans who load up kids with assault rifles and send them in to terrorize villages.

I know it's hard for you to accept that in your eyes such a large group of people are bastardizing your religion in your eyes. That happens with every religion though. In their eyes, that is how they see it. That is how they believe it, just as you believe it the way you do. That is how most religions work as I pointed out earlier. Yes, they might be a minority, but they have VERY large numbers and a lot of 'innocent' so-called people that think exactly like they do and cheer them on each and every day.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Ignoring facts that don't serve your purpose is shameful. More military member non-Muslims FAILED to act upon multiple opportunities to detour Major Nidal, which must make non-Muslims always unreliable in the fight against home grown terrorism, a failure which goes back at least to the McVeigh/Nichols attack on the Alfred Murrah building. Defense of the faith is not the point here; education of ignorants who insist on carelessly using divisive and insulting terms that do nothing to create cohesion between groups that could be allies is the point you fail to grasp.

Why would Muslims voluntarily work with people who repeatedly infer that all Muslims are potential terrorists and that their faith advocates violence, as you do? Your gratitude is meaningless since you infer that any Muslim who reports potential violence is going against their faith, not adhering to it. Is that the impression you intend to present?

In a misguided effort at political correctness more non-Muslim's FAILED to act on suspicions of Major Nidal. Perhaps that is because persons such as yourself are so thorough in your vilification of anyone who suggests there is rot in your religion. These sorts of folks, while not believing as you do, are amongst your peaceful Muslim population. Muslims are in a better position to monitor the scum in their midst.

None of the above paints all Muslims as terrorist sympathizers or themselves terrorists, but your shrill insistence that Islam has nothing to do with Islamic Terrorists, which reality and verifiable events PROVE are persons within the greater Islamic population leads to the kinds of non-Muslims failing to report for fear you your PC BS and getting sued for being anti-Muslim.

Are Islamic Terrorists good Muslims? No.

Are Islamic Terrorists in the majority, or their beliefs the widest held in Islam? Doubtful but from the outsiders perspective damned hard to tell.

Are there plenty of peace loving Muslims in the world? Yes, not really the point.

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This thread is about high fiving prejudice.

denial is not a river in Egypt

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I should know better than to crash a Klan meeting and try to talk reason. I won't forget again.