Why the right really hates NPR - with or without Juan Williams

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

The big difference here is that the taxpayer isn't propping up FOX as we do with NPR. The federal government should not be in the news business, opinion, and commentary business. I'd bet that NPR would die on the vine just like Air America and other Lefty venues without the US taxpayer being forced to subsidize so it can broadcast its Leftist slant.

This are not new revelations. This has been brought up in the past. The Juan Williams debacle just revived what many have debated for years about taxpayer funded media.

Um, you do know that NPR gets less than 6% of its funding from federal sources, right? And that direct corporate support makes up over 20% of its budget? Ooooh, NPR, sucklin' at the teat of big business. Pinko Radio Moneys

Also, we should pay heed to whether Fox is or is not being propped up by the taxpayer. Consider the fact that News Corp has repeatedly benefitted from tax loopholes and jiggery-pokery in its divisions worldwide to avoid paying taxes. Every dollar (or pound or Euro or whatever) that Murdoch et al are not paying to the coffers is another dollar that can be rolled into the media machine. Mom and Pop and their cute little country store aren't able to take advantage of the complex tax advantages that a News Corp can (and which Murdoch can agitate for by throwing fistfuls of dollars at the Chamber of Commerce). Who pays more proportionately tax-wise? It ain't Murdoch.

I've been a capitalist pig for ages, but the older I get the more I want to smash the rich. Look for me in a fetching revolutionary beret on Fox News soon.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

Peejay, have you ever actually listened to NPR, or actually read about their structure? NPR recieves 10% of its funding from federal grants and 6% of it's funding from local and state grants. They receive zero direct funding from the federal, state, or local government. There is a big difference between grants and direct funding. You should actually listen to NPR broadcasts, not just what Rush says NPR is.... maybe you'll learn the difference between 16% and 100% or the difference between a grant and direct funding.

Question, where does that grant money come from? Does it originate from taxpayer money? If so then we are supporting it regardless of if it is a grant or direct funding.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Question, where does that grant money come from? Does it originate from taxpayer money? If so then we are supporting it regardless of if it is a grant or direct funding.

Grants vary, but they do usually originate in federal spending bills just like a lot of other grants.

PBS is the most guilty though of direct federal (and state) funding.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Question, where does that grant money come from? Does it originate from taxpayer money? If so then we are supporting it regardless of if it is a grant or direct funding.

Do you know the difference between direct funding and a grant? Listen to NPR, not just what Rush says about it peejay. It's a great news source.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

Grants vary, but they do usually originate in federal spending bills just like a lot of other grants.

PBS is the most guilty though of direct federal (and state) funding.

The point is, unless they are printing money just for the grant, any money the government has is taxpayer money.

[peejay 327]

Um, you do know that NPR gets less than 6% of its funding from federal sources, right? And that direct corporate support makes up over 20% of its budget? Ooooh, NPR, sucklin' at the teat of big business. Pinko Radio Moneys

Also, we should pay heed to whether Fox is or is not being propped up by the taxpayer. Consider the fact that News Corp has repeatedly benefitted from tax loopholes and jiggery-pokery in its divisions worldwide to avoid paying taxes. Every dollar (or pound or Euro or whatever) that Murdoch et al are not paying to the coffers is another dollar that can be rolled into the media machine. Mom and Pop and their cute little country store aren't able to take advantage of the complex tax advantages that a News Corp can (and which Murdoch can agitate for by throwing fistfuls of dollars at the Chamber of Commerce). Who pays more proportionately tax-wise? It ain't Murdoch.

I've been a capitalist pig for ages, but the older I get the more I want to smash the rich. Look for me in a fetching revolutionary beret on Fox News soon.

So what? The percentage is irrelevant. The fact that the US taxpayer is paying for this with public money is the big difference at issue. If you want to privately send donations to NPR and its ilk is all well and fine. Party on. Ditto for private corporations.

Quit taking money out of my pocket to fund this nonsense. Whether the fed takes 1 cent or a dollar out of my paycheck to do this is also irrelevant. The fact that they do it at all is relevant.

The fact is that the tax laws apply to the Right just as well as it does to the Left. Soros can play the game just as well as Rupert.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

Do you know the difference between direct funding and a grant? Listen to NPR, not just what Rush says about it peejay. It's a great news source.

You didn't answer the question. Does the money given in a grant originate from taxpayer money?

[Heracles 417]

They use "blogs" as news sources 80% of the time and have been quite dishonest in their practices over the years.

Why do you have to insults the libs on here, nothing wrong with blogs.

Then again, it listening to some idiot like Rush any better?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

So what? The percentage is irrelevant. The fact that the US taxpayer is paying for this with public money is the big difference at issue. If you want to privately send donations to NPR and its ilk is all well and fine. Party on. Ditto for private corporations.

Quit taking money out of my pocket to fund this nonsense. Whether the fed takes 1 cent or a dollar out of my paycheck to do this is also irrelevant. The fact that they do it at all is relevant.

The fact is that the tax laws apply to the Right just as well as it does to the Left. Soros can play the game just as well as Rupert.

Do I think the left has any more justification for denying the government taxes? Hell no! If you're a mega-rich mofo, pay your taxes, you dirty welfare queen. All of us, ALL OF US, left and right, are supporting corporate welfare on a far grander scale than the pittance that NPR receives from governmental and quasi-governmental sources. It's filthy. We're propping up Murdoch and Soros; we're the losers left holding the bag. Every dollar that Murdoch does not pay in taxes that he might have, nay, SHOULD have, is another dollar we are spending to promote the agenda of Fox. Why should he get the benefit of the doubt?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Why do you have to insults the libs on here, nothing wrong with blogs.

Then again, it listening to some idiot like Rush any better?

I give Rush the edge because at least he's emotional/can be amusing and entertaining... NPR is a monotone lullaby to put a baby to sleep.

Do I think the left has any more justification for denying the government taxes? Hell no! If you're a mega-rich mofo, pay your taxes, you dirty welfare queen. All of us, ALL OF US, left and right, are supporting corporate welfare on a far grander scale than the pittance that NPR receives from governmental and quasi-governmental sources. It's filthy. We're propping up Murdoch and Soros; we're the losers left holding the bag. Every dollar that Murdoch does not pay in taxes that he might have, nay, SHOULD have, is another dollar we are spending to promote the agenda of Fox. Why should he get the benefit of the doubt?

and just remember which party had house/senate majorities to give those corporate welfare checks.

[Heracles 417]

I give Rush the edge because at least he's emotional/can be amusing and entertaining... NPR is a monotone lullaby to put a baby to sleep.

Yeah it's true, excluding fiscal policy, I most definitely prefer listening to the right.

Edited October 27, 2010 by Heracles

[The_Dude 1,142]

and just remember which party had house/senate majorities to give those corporate welfare checks.

That would be republicans....

Source

[Obama 2012 1,714]

That would be republicans....

Source

Sorry, Republicans couldn't do anything without Democrats as of January 2007.

Any legislation that passed after that point is solely on their shoulders.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Just as Democrats blame Republicans for the war in Iraq when they had a majority, eventhough a bunch of Democrats voted for it....

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

and just remember which party had house/senate majorities to give those corporate welfare checks.

Yeah. Both parties, repeatedly, over many years. They're all to blame -- and I do not say that facetiously. The Democrats are just as guilty as the Republicans. In my professional life, I have had more than a few dealings with the Business Roundtable and the Chamber of Commerce, and both organisations are happy to lie down with whoever is happy to push their agenda legislatively (as long as it the BR or CC that's the top in bed, tyvm).

[one...two...tree 2,762]

NPR news programs list:

All Things Considered - whoah! With a name like that, they must be liberal because what conservative in their right mind would consider anything but their own crusty ideas?

Fresh Air - another liberal propaganda show because we all know conservatives hate the clean air and the environment!

Talk of the Nation - It's sounds national, but I have my suspicions.

Morning Edition - sounds too much like rainbows and sunshine....definitely liberal.

Tell Me More - definitely liberal. No conservative wants to hear anymore than enough to form their crusty opinions about an issue.

Edited October 27, 2010 by El Buscador