Quote of the Day: The Great Conservative ACA Sham

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From Boeing spokeswoman Karen Forte:

If you would've asked me if we would've made these changes without the enactment of the law, I would've said yes.

The subject is the healthcare reform law, and whether Boeing is making changes to its health plan because of the law's new regulations. The answer is no. Contrary to what they said in a letter to employees, they were planning to make them anyway.

Once again with feeling: healthcare reform is a wonderful excuse for companies to use when they decide to pare back benefits. It's also a wonderful talking point for conservatives to haul out whenever anything changes in the healthcare industry. There's just one thing: the claims are almost never true. Either the changes aren't actually happening in the first place or they're changes that would have happened anyway.

You should expect to continue hearing a tidal wave of claims that ACA is damaging access to healthcare in one way or another. About 1% of the time there will be something to it. The other 99% of the time it will quickly turn out to be hooey, but you won't find out about that on the front page. You'll find out about it, at best, on page A17. Caveat emptor.

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in short, we didn't need this law, everyone could just go work for boeing. got it.

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From Boeing spokeswoman Karen Forte:

If you would've asked me if we would've made these changes without the enactment of the law, I would've said yes.

The subject is the healthcare reform law, and whether Boeing is making changes to its health plan because of the law's new regulations. The answer is no. Contrary to what they said in a letter to employees, they were planning to make them anyway.

Once again with feeling: healthcare reform is a wonderful excuse for companies to use when they decide to pare back benefits. It's also a wonderful talking point for conservatives to haul out whenever anything changes in the healthcare industry. There's just one thing: the claims are almost never true. Either the changes aren't actually happening in the first place or they're changes that would have happened anyway.

You should expect to continue hearing a tidal wave of claims that ACA is damaging access to healthcare in one way or another. About 1% of the time there will be something to it. The other 99% of the time it will quickly turn out to be hooey, but you won't find out about that on the front page. You'll find out about it, at best, on page A17. Caveat emptor.

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What you seem to be missing is that this health care "reform" was suppost to prevent this sort of thing. Whether it would have happened anyway is a moot point. The point is that the "reform" either did nothing or made it worse. Thanks congress for blowing your chance.

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What you seem to be missing is that this health care "reform" was suppost to prevent this sort of thing. Whether it would have happened anyway is a moot point. The point is that the "reform" either did nothing or made it worse. Thanks congress for blowing your chance.

Both sides of the isle blew it and don't look to Rethuglicans to fix it.

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What you seem to be missing is that this health care "reform" was suppost to prevent this sort of thing. Whether it would have happened anyway is a moot point. The point is that the "reform" either did nothing or made it worse. Thanks congress for blowing your chance.

Are you sure? Because the fear mongering from the opponents of the Affordable Healthcare Act kept telling Americans that government was taking over their healthcare and taking away their choices. Companies still have the freedom to choose what kind of plans to offer their employees. There are cost containing restrictions, but not to the extend that government ties the hands of business from any rate increases or decreased coverage. But again, the argument in the OP is that the opponents of the reform are saying these kinds of issues are a direct result of the ACA, which is a lie.