Senate nominee O'Donnell asks whether Constitution prohibits establishment of religion

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Its simply amazing that we all evolved from dino turds.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Not to be augmentative but I got a one way ticket to the UK/Promise land.

Boring. *yawn*

If you had bothered to read my posts, I was actually DEFENDING the US system of relying to some extent on case law, and pointing out that the US is not alone in doing so. I was in no way saying that the UK system was superior in this way. I spoke of the British system since I am an English lawyer, and I have knowledge in this one area. And I am not moving back to the UK any time soon because a) I like it here b ) I'm a fecking American and I can live here if I like and c) I have a boyfriend who would go bananas if I did, particularly since he is putting in a lot of effort to re-Americanise me. I mean, re-Americanize me.

Live with it.

There's no "fail" - the usage is correct. "Were" is a remnant of the past subjunctive

in English, which denotes a mood of verbs used when the content of the clause is being doubted,

supposed, feared true, etc., rather than being asserted.

"I'd read a grammar book if I were you."

Dag nab it, I wanted to say this first!

[Danno 1,228]

You are confused. Intelligent Design is Creationists attempting to paint their faith as plausible scientific theory. Only the logic challenged fail to see through the thin disguise.

Your opinion doesn't change definitions.

Just because both have similar concepts, one is baed on faith based belief by a totally unconnected wide group of people

The other is theory of science.

The fact that you are not aware of even the most basic parts of this conversation add considerable weight to your conclusions.

[웃 910]

Its simply amazing that we all evolved from dino turds.

No, it's amazing that, in the beginning, God created a garden, put 1 naked man and 1 naked woman there, a bunch of fruit/vegetables, a talking snake, and told the 2 naked people not to eat from the apple tree. The naked woman had a conversation with the talking snake and ate the apple. So they had to leave the garden for disobeying God's command. And that is how we evolved, 6,000 years ago, starting with Adam and Eve, starring the talking snake....

Edited October 22, 2010 by Lord Infamous

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Your opinion doesn't change definitions. Just because both have similar concepts, one is baed on faith based belief by a totally unconnected wide group of people

The other is theory of science.

The fact that you are not aware of even the most basic parts of this conversation add considerable weight to your conclusions.

Intelligent Design is not a theory of science Danno. Sorry to burst your Creationist bubble.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Intelligent Design is not a theory of science Danno. Sorry to burst your Creationist bubble.

Not only that but there simply isn't any intelligent design to begin with. Consider:

• The existence of the blind spot in the human eye
  
• In the African locust, nerve cells start in the abdomen but connect to the wing. This leads to unnecessary use of materials.
  
• In the human female, a fertilized egg can implant into the fallopian tube, cervix or ovary rather than the uterus causing an ectopic pregnancy. The existence of a cavity between the ovary and the fallopian tube could indicate a flawed design in the female reproductive system. Prior to modern surgery, ectopic pregnancy invariably caused the deaths of both mother and baby. Even in modern times, in almost all cases, the pregnancy must be aborted to save the life of the mother.
  
• In the human female, the birth canal passes through the pelvis. The prenatal skull will deform to a surprising extent. However, if the baby’s head is significantly larger than the pelvic opening, the baby cannot be born naturally. Prior to the development of modern surgery (caesarean section), such a complication would lead to the death of the mother, the baby or both. Other birthing complications such as breech birth are worsened by this position of the birth canal.
  
• In the human male, testes develop initially within the abdomen. Later during gestation, they migrate through the abdominal wall into the #######. This causes two weak points in the abdominal wall where hernias can later form. Prior to modern surgical techniques, complications from hernias including intestinal blockage, gangrene, etc., usually resulted in death.
  
• Barely used nerves and muscles, such as the plantaris muscle of the foot, that are missing in part of the human population and are routinely harvested as spare parts if needed during operations. Another example is the muscles that move the ears, which some people can learn to control to a degree, but serve no purpose in any case.
  
• Intricate reproductive devices in orchids, apparently constructed from components commonly having different functions in other flowers.
  
• The use by pandas of their enlarged radial sesamoid bones in a manner similar to how other creatures use thumbs.
  
• The existence of unnecessary wings in flightless birds, e.g. ostriches.
  
• The route of the recurrent laryngeal nerve is such that it travels from the brain to the larynx by looping around the aortic arch. This same configuration holds true for many animals, in the case of the giraffe this results in about twenty feet of extra nerve.
  
• The prevalence of congenital diseases and genetic disorders such as Huntington's Disease.
  
• The common malformation of the human spinal column, leading to scoliosis, sciatica and congenital misalignment of the vertebrae.
  
• The existence of the pharynx, a passage used for both ingestion and respiration, with the consequent drastic increase in the risk of choking.
  
• The structure of humans' (as well as all mammals') eyes. The retina is 'inside out'. The nerves and blood vessels lie on the surface of the retina instead of behind it as is the case in many invertebrate species. This arrangement forces a number of complex adaptations and gives mammals a blind spot. (See Evolution of the eye). Six muscles move the eye when three would suffice.
  
• Crowded teeth and poor sinus drainage, as human faces are significantly flatter than those of other primates and humans share the same tooth set. This results in a number of problems, most notably with wisdom teeth.
  
• Almost all animals and plants synthesize their own vitamin C, but humans cannot because the gene for this enzyme is defective (Pseudogene ΨGULO). Lack of vitamin C results in scurvy and eventually death. The gene is also non-functional in other primates and guinea pigs, but is functional in most other higher animals.
  
• The enzyme rubisco has been described as a "notoriously inefficient" enzyme, as it is inhibited by oxygen, has a very slow turnover and is not saturated at current levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The enzyme is inhibited as it unable to distinguish between carbon dioxide and molecular oxygen, with oxygen acting as an competitive enzyme inhibitor. However, rubisco remains the key enzyme in carbon fixation and plants overcome its poor activity by having massive amounts of it inside their cells, making it the most abundant protein on Earth.
  
• The enzyme nitrogenase actually preferentially binds with acetylene over di-nitrogen, despite it being the key enzyme used in nitrogen fixation in many bacteria and archaea.
  
• The breathing reflex is stimulated not directly by the absence of oxygen but rather indirectly by the presence of carbon dioxide. A result is that, at high altitudes, oxygen deprivation can occur in unadapted individuals who do not consciously increase their breathing rate. Oxygenless asphyxiation in a pure-nitrogen atmosphere has been proposed as a humane method of execution that exploits this oversight.
  
• The unstable hollow bones built for flight in birds like penguins and ostriches, and the Sturdy bones built for non-flight in animals like bats.
  
• Vestigial third molar (Commonly known as wisdom teeth) in humans. Some other primates with differing jaw shapes make use of the third molar.
  
• The vestigial Femur and pelvis in whales, the ancestor of whales lived on land.
  
• Turritopsis nutricula and Hydra genus have Biological Immortality

So, what that "designer" inept, incapacitated or simply sadistic?

Edited October 22, 2010 by Mr. Big Dog

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Not only that but there simply isn't any intelligent design to begin with. Consider:

• The existence of the blind spot in the human eye
  
• In the African locust, nerve cells start in the abdomen but connect to the wing. This leads to unnecessary use of materials.
  
• In the human female, a fertilized egg can implant into the fallopian tube, cervix or ovary rather than the uterus causing an ectopic pregnancy. The existence of a cavity between the ovary and the fallopian tube could indicate a flawed design in the female reproductive system. Prior to modern surgery, ectopic pregnancy invariably caused the deaths of both mother and baby. Even in modern times, in almost all cases, the pregnancy must be aborted to save the life of the mother.
  
• In the human female, the birth canal passes through the pelvis. The prenatal skull will deform to a surprising extent. However, if the baby’s head is significantly larger than the pelvic opening, the baby cannot be born naturally. Prior to the development of modern surgery (caesarean section), such a complication would lead to the death of the mother, the baby or both. Other birthing complications such as breech birth are worsened by this position of the birth canal.
  
• In the human male, testes develop initially within the abdomen. Later during gestation, they migrate through the abdominal wall into the #######. This causes two weak points in the abdominal wall where hernias can later form. Prior to modern surgical techniques, complications from hernias including intestinal blockage, gangrene, etc., usually resulted in death.
  
• Barely used nerves and muscles, such as the plantaris muscle of the foot, that are missing in part of the human population and are routinely harvested as spare parts if needed during operations. Another example is the muscles that move the ears, which some people can learn to control to a degree, but serve no purpose in any case.
  
• Intricate reproductive devices in orchids, apparently constructed from components commonly having different functions in other flowers.
  
• The use by pandas of their enlarged radial sesamoid bones in a manner similar to how other creatures use thumbs.
  
• The existence of unnecessary wings in flightless birds, e.g. ostriches.
  
• The route of the recurrent laryngeal nerve is such that it travels from the brain to the larynx by looping around the aortic arch. This same configuration holds true for many animals, in the case of the giraffe this results in about twenty feet of extra nerve.
  
• The prevalence of congenital diseases and genetic disorders such as Huntington's Disease.
  
• The common malformation of the human spinal column, leading to scoliosis, sciatica and congenital misalignment of the vertebrae.
  
• The existence of the pharynx, a passage used for both ingestion and respiration, with the consequent drastic increase in the risk of choking.
  
• The structure of humans' (as well as all mammals') eyes. The retina is 'inside out'. The nerves and blood vessels lie on the surface of the retina instead of behind it as is the case in many invertebrate species. This arrangement forces a number of complex adaptations and gives mammals a blind spot. (See Evolution of the eye). Six muscles move the eye when three would suffice.
  
• Crowded teeth and poor sinus drainage, as human faces are significantly flatter than those of other primates and humans share the same tooth set. This results in a number of problems, most notably with wisdom teeth.
  
• Almost all animals and plants synthesize their own vitamin C, but humans cannot because the gene for this enzyme is defective (Pseudogene ΨGULO). Lack of vitamin C results in scurvy and eventually death. The gene is also non-functional in other primates and guinea pigs, but is functional in most other higher animals.
  
• The enzyme rubisco has been described as a "notoriously inefficient" enzyme, as it is inhibited by oxygen, has a very slow turnover and is not saturated at current levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The enzyme is inhibited as it unable to distinguish between carbon dioxide and molecular oxygen, with oxygen acting as an competitive enzyme inhibitor. However, rubisco remains the key enzyme in carbon fixation and plants overcome its poor activity by having massive amounts of it inside their cells, making it the most abundant protein on Earth.
  
• The enzyme nitrogenase actually preferentially binds with acetylene over di-nitrogen, despite it being the key enzyme used in nitrogen fixation in many bacteria and archaea.
  
• The breathing reflex is stimulated not directly by the absence of oxygen but rather indirectly by the presence of carbon dioxide. A result is that, at high altitudes, oxygen deprivation can occur in unadapted individuals who do not consciously increase their breathing rate. Oxygenless asphyxiation in a pure-nitrogen atmosphere has been proposed as a humane method of execution that exploits this oversight.
  
• The unstable hollow bones built for flight in birds like penguins and ostriches, and the Sturdy bones built for non-flight in animals like bats.
  
• Vestigial third molar (Commonly known as wisdom teeth) in humans. Some other primates with differing jaw shapes make use of the third molar.
  
• The vestigial Femur and pelvis in whales, the ancestor of whales lived on land.
  
• Turritopsis nutricula and Hydra genus have Biological Immortality

So, what that "designer" inept, incapacitated or simply sadistic?

You have to remember, it was sort of a rush job.

[mawilson 2,133]

God is not an engineer, that's for sure - otherwise he wouldn't have put the waste disposal next to the recreation area.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

God is not an engineer, that's for sure - otherwise he wouldn't have put the waste disposal next to the recreation area.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

God is not an engineer, that's for sure - otherwise he wouldn't have put the waste disposal next to the recreation area.

It's the furthest away from the mouth which is pretty smart.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

God is not an engineer, that's for sure - otherwise he wouldn't have put the waste disposal next to the recreation area.

That is for when she gets drunk, you can carry her home like a six-pack.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

That is for when she gets drunk, you can carry her home like a six-pack.

Ew. Hint: we don't like that too much.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ew. Hint: we don't like that too much.

Bill doesn't care...as long as he likes it.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Bill doesn't care...as long as he likes it.

That's a rather disturbing picture, not least because I vaguely resemble the girl in the picture (though I don't have bangs) and the man looks like Father Jack from the show "Father Ted." However, I really like her shoes.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

That's a rather disturbing picture, not least because I vaguely resemble the girl in the picture (though I don't have bangs) and the man looks like Father Jack from the show "Father Ted." However, I really like her shoes.