Supporting evidence

[loonphang 0]

i know this is a very stupid question...but i just need to obtain as many proof as i can.

please share with me what proof you guys have included in your petition?

thank you in advance

so far i have a join-bank account with my fiancee, a expedia.com itineary, internatinal phone bill, couple pictures, 1800flowers.com receipt....since she used to work in USA, i also have couple of her pay stub.

please give me some suggestion if u have one...thanks again

[jkb919 0]

I think you are doing good with what you have...the best proof is pictures, I included about 8 pics and boarding passes and also if you have copy of any passport stamps....

[AFQuaid 18]

Assuming you have visited your partner within 2 years (required to apply for this visa) it is helpful to include airline stubs, tickets (if you kept), payment receipts from the flight, lots of photos of you two together (they like those) and another helpful thing is a receipt for any engagement rings bought.

[kaydee457 13]

You need to submit proof of having met within the past two years for you Petition. You also need to prove U.S. Citizenship, that all prior marriages (if any) have been terminated and that you are qualified to submit this petition on behalf of your fiancee.

Emails, joint bank accounts, flowers receipts will not help you now. Save that information for the interview at the consulate.

The photos are a good start if they show you and your fiancee together. They are not all the proof you need however.

You need the iterineraries along with the boarding passes to prove that you have travelled to where she is, as well any exit/entry visa stamps you have aquired in your travels during the time you assert you two have met.

Hotel reciepts, ATM withdrawals in the subject country shown on you bank statements, and any other hard documentary proof you can gather.

[loonphang 0]

visit my fiancee? i never fly to Japan to visit her, since she worked here for 18 months till January 06. i thought the requirement is er ahve met each other.

i mean my fiancee work in the USAfor 18 months, is tht good enough to prove that we have met each other within 2 years. Unfortunately i do not save the boarding pass......

i guess i probably should visit japan at least once

[AFQuaid 18]

visit my fiancee? i never fly to Japan to visit her, since she worked here for 18 months till January 06. i thought the requirement is er ahve met each other.

i mean my fiancee work in the USAfor 18 months, is tht good enough to prove that we have met each other within 2 years. Unfortunately i do not save the boarding pass......

i guess i probably should visit japan at least once

As you have actually met physically within the past 2 years then it should be fine. Alot applying for the k-1 meet online you see. If you actually know her by meeting in the flesh (within 2 years) it's all good.

[kaydee457 13]

We assume your fiancee is not in the USA. We cannot answer your question if you do not supply the information to answer the question properly.

Yes, the requirement is to have met within the past two years.

In your case, you will need to prove that you two were together, here in the USA for whatever time you were together.

The USCIS defines evidence in terms of primary (hard documented evidence), and secondary evidence which anecdotal supporting evidence that by itself cannot stand alone.

Photos are considered secondary evidence.

I do not know the circumstances by which you two met but you'll have to supply hard evidence in the form of perhaps leases, school records (if you two met in college) etc.

Emails, flower reciepts, and the such are needed later in the process.

[aussiewench 9]

I disagree........photos are secondary. Photos are used to create the complete picture. Primary evidence is things such as airline stubs (tickets) boarding passes, etc anything that can establish that you were in the same place at the same time.

Things such as Engagement ring reciept, documented wedding plans etc are evidence of intent to marry which can be submitted.......

From I-129F form instructions

5 B Provide original statements from you and your fiancé(e) whom you plan to marry within 90 days of his or her admission, and copies of any evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent;

IMO A joint bank account does not show having met in person within 2 year period as it could of been set up prior to that 2 years. The only way it would provide evidence is if a copy of the form you completed to open the account was submitted showing names, date and signatures.

How would her pay stubs help to establish having met??

internatinal phone bill does not show evidence of having met nor does 1800flowers.com receipt.

How long ago was she in the US working???

[kaydee457 13]

As you have actually met physically within the past 2 years then it should be fine. Alot applying for the k-1 meet online you see. If you actually know her by meeting in the flesh (within 2 years) it's all good.

AFQuaid.

He still has the burden of proving the fact they they did meet regardless of the time spent in the USA by his fiancee.

Aussie... Whom are you disagreeing with? We are once again saying the same thing.

[aussiewench 9]

visit my fiancee? i never fly to Japan to visit her, since she worked here for 18 months till January 06. i thought the requirement is er ahve met each other.

i mean my fiancee work in the USAfor 18 months, is tht good enough to prove that we have met each other within 2 years. Unfortunately i do not save the boarding pass......

i guess i probably should visit japan at least once

As you have actually met physically within the past 2 years then it should be fine. Alot applying for the k-1 meet online you see. If you actually know her by meeting in the flesh (within 2 years) it's all good.

Regardless he still needs to provide the same type of evidence of having met.

loonphang,

You need to gather all the evidence you can to prove that you were in the same place at the same time. Did you ever receive any invitations in both names eg

[AFQuaid 18]

As you have actually met physically within the past 2 years then it should be fine. Alot applying for the k-1 meet online you see. If you actually know her by meeting in the flesh (within 2 years) it's all good.

AFQuaid.

He still has the burden of proving the fact they they did meet regardless of the time spent in the USA by his fiancee.

Aussie... Whom are you disagreeing with? We are once again saying the same thing.

Yes I realise this, I was responding to his confusion on visiting fiancee and actually met in RL to establish a LDR. Of course he still has to prove they have met physically. I was just saying he doesn't have to go to her country if indeed when they met when she worked in the US it was within the past 2 years. Otherwise if it was earlier than that I should think he would have to go visit her in her country. Either way however they met, the fact they met period needs to be proved.

[aussiewench 9]

Aussie... Whom are you disagreeing with? We are once again saying the same thing.

hahahahaha not you Kaydee.....there was no one here when I started to do my post.....took a while to write. I had intended my post to be where your first one is

[kaydee457 13]

Aussie- Go back to post 4...

I stated

The photos are a good start if they show you and your fiancee together. They are not all the proof you need however.

We continue to say the same things so I'm not sure why you disagree. Photos are secondary evidence and can only be used to supplement other evidence. They cannot stand alone.

Ok...let's quickly call this the last post before we post again- simultaneously!

Well now- add this to the list of new quirks.....

My last comment about "simultaneous" I meant to be an entirely new post but apparently someohow it appended it to my last post....

ARGGGGGG....it did it again!

It appears that you cannot "reply" to your own post. It (the board s/w) treats it as an "edit"......

[lynn&al 1]

just curious, where is this list of what is considered primary/secondary evidence? just starting to panic a bit again and would like to check it out

[aussiewench 9]

Ummmmmmm Kaydee if you read my post I said I wasnt disagreeing with you.......I wrote my original post to go in post 4 but you beat me to it I was disagreeing with post 2 and including post 3 when I said engagement ring receipts where evidence of intent to marry. I just cant get the hang of quoting 2 yet on this new board. Besides the fact that I said 'I disagree........photos are secondary' should indicate to you that I was disagreeing with the previous posts to yours

Can we drop it now

Aussie- Go back to post 4...

I stated

The photos are a good start if they show you and your fiancee together. They are not all the proof you need however.

We continue to say the same things so I'm not sure why you disagree. Photos are secondary evidence and can only be used to supplement other evidence. They cannot stand alone.

Ok...let's quickly call this the last post before we post again- simultaneously!