Australia ex-PM Howard attacks 'multiculturalism'

[Sofiyya 1,687]

melting pot EOM

Not an answer.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Europe is cleaning house because a few far right fringe parties get a fingernail hold on power?

That kind of nationalism is as stale now as it was in the 1940s

[Heracles 417]

You wish. Tell us how Europe is cleaning house, and why the US would feel the need to do so.

I enjoyed you admitting earlier that Islamic migration essentially really is a strategy. They certainly do not migrate to enjoy our culture or way of life, that's for sure.

You are right though, the efforts are slow for reasons that can be seen in this thread alone - deniers of this issue.

Edited October 12, 2010 by Heracles

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I enjoyed you admitting earlier that Islamic migration essentially really is a strategy. They certainly do not migrate to enjoy our culture or way of life, that's for sure.

You are right though, the efforts are slow for reasons that can be seen in this thread alone - deniers of this issue.

I don't believe in any such "strategy". Any "admission" of one for your enjoyment is only another part of your paranoid fantasy. I merely asked a question which you can't answer, proving, once again, reality is relative among conspiracy theorists.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

The significant differences between Muslim immigration in Europe and Muslim immigration in the US are lost on our conspiracy wingnut friends, yet still worth noting. Many Muslims in Europe are analygous to our illegal Mexicans. At first, their Muslim immigrants were mostly uneducated males from former colonies. They were desired for their cheap labor, and expected to return home when time came to marry and start families. Only, that didn't happen. They stayed, sometimes intermarried with the daughters of their European neighbors, and raised children who know their birth country as home, but home is not so welcoming now.

In contrast, Muslim immigration to the US was not for further exploitation. Muslims came in growing numbers from a variety of cultures and nations to attend school and become better educated. This process allowed for greater integration, mobility and wider opportunities in the US. Unlike most of Europe's immigrants, Muslims in the US had already well estabished Muslim communities in many urban areas, and the ability to open mosques in the suburbs are they moved out of the cities allowed for growth without spiritual compromise.

Think about it. In a nutshell, these are apples and oranges scenarios.

[Matt&Divorced 0]

I like Chinese Sweet and Sour pork, Italian Pizzas, American beers and French Fries. Does that make me Multicultural? Yes I am! lol

[Heracles 417]

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Edited October 12, 2010 by Heracles

[Danno 1,228]

I like Chinese Sweet and Sour pork, Italian Pizzas, American beers and French Fries. Does that make me Multicultural? Yes I am! lol

It's rather telling that your most wonderful Multicultural expressions revolve around food... not people.

[Danno 1,228]

Libs? What are you on? Cultural identity has nothing to do with political ideology, although certain Nationalist political ideologies like to pretend it does, that suits a very insular and nasty agenda, do you subscribe to that? That said, please, tell me what bastions of American culture are currently under threat? Apparently football is safe, what about baseball?

No one remotely suggested Cultural identity had anything with political identity, and the only reason you toss up such nonsense is to avoid the question I asked.

Now you claimed americana identity was simply a creation of Leave it to Beaver.

I suggested you are parroting Liberal claptrap on the topic.

Where were you in the 50's or 60's that you would know?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You do have a habit of asking questions that are totally irrelevant Danno..

[Matt&Divorced 0]

I'm learning heaps about my American family's culture and the differences between mine and theirs. I've had a pen-pal program that covered from Africa to the Philippines and made friends all over the world, also understanding their cultures. Food is just one of the things you discover.

Edited October 13, 2010 by Matt & Kari

[Peikko 1,575]

No one remotely suggested Cultural identity had anything with political identity, and the only reason you toss up such nonsense is to avoid the question I asked.

Now you claimed americana identity was simply a creation of Leave it to Beaver.

I suggested you are parroting Liberal claptrap on the topic.

Where were you in the 50's or 60's that you would know?

Historians are time travelers, just ask Dr Who?

[Danno 1,228]

You do have a habit of asking questions that are totally irrelevant Danno..

Says, "Mr irrelevant"

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Says, "Mr irrelevant"

Currently, that's you.

Seriously, do you ever read what people write - or are you always trying to twist words to try to get one over on them? It's pathetic, not only that but you aren't very good at it.

[Peikko 1,575]

Danno, what is the exact degree of relevance of personal experience when discussing cultural norms?