How my Chinese Girlfriend can vist me.

[SammyMahina 0]

My Name is Sammy and I have recently met a girl from china we have been talking for a little over a month now. I realize that this is a bit hasty to try to bring her over. But we are in love and we feel that we will be together forever. I have already started to learn Chinese to further break the language barrier but she is pretty fluent in English.

I have a felony so as such am unable to visit her which causes both of us much grief. She has stated that if we are together in a year and half that she will visit me. However I dont want to wait that long to find out how the process is done what we both need to do and how long it will take.

I basically need to know what I need to do to ease the process for her.

Thank you very much for the time given to help us.

Sincerely Sam,

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

She would need a B-1/2 (Tourist) Visa. Not impossible to get for a Chinese Citizen but it may prove to be difficult.

You might want to think about meeting in a 3rd country if you can't get a Visa to visit China.

[SammyMahina 0]

We both realize it will be hard. I need to know what difficulties we face. Is it just a bunch of laws we have to satisfy, financial obligations that need to be meet, time restraints dealing with how long she will stay, or the people we have to interact with during the process, case in point will we have to daily call a case worker of some type while she is here.

Also the 3rd country is still not an option with my felony. I have already made this hard enough.

[Boiler 45,956]

Mexico seems pretty easy to go to.

[milimelo 4,544]

Mexico seems pretty easy to go to.

Not if he can't leave the US - for some felonies, they take away your passport. I think this is also the case if one has lots of unpaid child support.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

We both realize it will be hard. I need to know what difficulties we face. Is it just a bunch of laws we have to satisfy, financial obligations that need to be meet, time restraints dealing with how long she will stay, or the people we have to interact with during the process, case in point will we have to daily call a case worker of some type while she is here.

Also the 3rd country is still not an option with my felony. I have already made this hard enough.

Not to pry or anything but with how cryptic this post is and all of the restrictions (i.e. daily call to a caseworker) it sounds like you're under some kind of Sex Offender Parole/Probation Program. If that is the case then you need to read-up on the Adam Walsh Act and it's impact on Immigration Petitions by "AWA Filers".

Just having a felony conviction doesn't prevent you from traveling abroad, in fact even with a felony sex conviction you could meet her in the Philippines. Now if you are on Parole/Probation then of course your ability to leave the country has been curtailed.

[SammyMahina 0]

Not to pry or anything but with how cryptic this post is and all of the restrictions (i.e. daily call to a caseworker) it sounds like you're under some kind of Sex Offender Parole/Probation Program. If that is the case then you need to read-up on the Adam Walsh Act and it's impact on Immigration Petitions by "AWA Filers".

Just having a felony conviction doesn't prevent you from traveling abroad, in fact even with a felony sex conviction you could meet her in the Philippines. Now if you are on Parole/Probation then of course your ability to leave the country has been curtailed.

I did not intend to have the post seem cryptic however this is the case for me.

"The Act also for the first time limits the rights of citizens or permanent residents to petition to immigrate their spouse or other relatives to the U.S. if the petitioner has a listed child sex abuse conviction. If that is the case, then the petition cannot be approved unless the Department of Homeland Security determines in its unreviewable discretion that there is no risk of harm to the beneficiary or derivative beneficiary."

Is part of the act or an addition to it. Does this mean its impossible or pretty much so. I truly think this is unfair seeing how I have told her everything.

Edited October 8, 2010 by SammyMahina

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Is part of the act or an addition to it. Does this mean its impossible or pretty much so. I truly think this is unfair seeing how I have told her everything.

You need to spend some time in this sub-forum: IMBRA Special Topics

USCIS does seem to be actually giving fair consideration to AWA Filers lately so no it's not impossible but the is a higher standard that you must meet.

[Darnell 8,479]

Here's the lowdown on B-2 Tourist Visas obtained in China -

http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/niv_issuance.html#niv1

If she can prove up 'strong ties', she has a shot at coming to USA, on a tourist visa.

[SammyMahina 0]

She has no "strong ties", she is only coming to be with me. But as I said at the start of the post I am getting things as straight as I can now. She wont try to come for 1 1/2 years so we can develop a strong relationship with each other. I believe this is really unfair, I realize I make this statement partially out of ignorance however I believe as a grown women she should be able to make the choice to be with me after I have told her of my past.

[Darnell 8,479]

OH - I'm not arguing anything, I've no 'hard core stance' here,

except

getting a tourist visa in China, to come to the USA,

is really frickin hard.

The applicant MUST show/prove up strong ties to China, hit all on the list at http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/niv_issuance.html#niv1

A single Chinese Woman under age 35 with no children (for example), really needs to be a 'gold collar worker' with 2 or more properties and a car, 500K RMB in the bank, vice pres (or better) of a company pushing 20,000,000 rmb a year or more in annual sales.

But that's just an example - there are others, based on different demographics of the applicant.

[SammyMahina 0]

OH - I'm not arguing anything, I've no 'hard core stance' here,

except

getting a tourist visa in China, to come to the USA,

is really frickin hard.

The applicant MUST show/prove up strong ties to China, hit all on the list at http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/niv_issuance.html#niv1

A single Chinese Woman under age 35 with no children (for example), really needs to be a 'gold collar worker' with 2 or more properties and a car, 500K RMB in the bank, vice pres (or better) of a company pushing 20,000,000 rmb a year or more in annual sales.

But that's just an example - there are others, based on different demographics of the applicant.

The applicant MUST show/prove up strong ties to China" So she has to prove the strong ties or I do? And why would a citizen of China have to prove strong ties for if she wants to come here? Is it so the people involved will believe she will come back to her home? The plan is to try to get her here so we can be together.

"A single Chinese Woman under age 35 with no children (for example), really needs to be a 'gold collar worker' with 2 or more properties and a car, 500K RMB in the bank, vice pres (or better) of a company pushing 20,000,000 rmb a year or more in annual sales."

This confuses me to. This seems like a bit much for someone to have to "Vist" here. Are there no laws being revised soon to make it easier or someone here I can contact to go over this with?

I dont want her to get to emotionally involved (or anymore) then needs be if we cant be together and this seems like excessive red tape to me. Why is it so easy for an american to go anywhere (or so it seems to me) and hard for other countries to come here?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Why is it so easy for an american to go anywhere (or so it seems to me) and hard for other countries to come here?

Because so many want to come here and never return to their home country whereas most US Citizens want to return to the US. It's because of all the illegal immigration and China is a High Fraud Country with many coming to the US illegally through Visa Fraud. Just go to any Chinese Buffet and ask how many of the servers are legal, the answer is very few. I know this from personal experience.

How long are you restricted from overseas travel? You just might have to wait a little longer than originally planned to meet in person.

[Darnell 8,479]

The applicant MUST show/prove up strong ties to China" So she has to prove the strong ties or I do?

The applicant, here, would be yer lass in China. Not You. Why would you apply for a tourist visa to come to the USA from China? Yer not a Chinese National, PRC person, living in China, ah?

[Darnell 8,479]

"A single Chinese Woman under age 35 with no children (for example), really needs to be a 'gold collar worker' with 2 or more properties and a car, 500K RMB in the bank, vice pres (or better) of a company pushing 20,000,000 rmb a year or more in annual sales."

This confuses me to. This seems like a bit much for someone to have to "Vist" here. Are there no laws being revised soon to make it easier or someone here I can contact to go over this with?

I dont want her to get to emotionally involved (or anymore) then needs be if we cant be together and this seems like excessive red tape to me. Why is it so easy for an american to go anywhere (or so it seems to me) and hard for other countries to come here?

It's not really red tape, and it's not really excessive.

You must understand (you don't have to like it, though) -

that

by law, any Visa Officer must FIRST ASSUME that the applicant for a TOURIST VISA has immigrant intent,

there's no way to change that assumption, it's proscribed by law, the Visa Officer must follow the law.

If you'll take a few moments, study the content at http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/niv_issuance.html#niv1

you'll get some idea of the actual laws involved. It really is worth the read, regardless of how long it takes to read it - even map out the sentences that explain the examples of 'strong ties to China'.

as to my 'example' - wei - that's specific to that example, that demographic (of a single chinese woman under age 35, no kids). There are other demographic examples ie - divorced woman with a child, over age 35, a university professor coming in to USA on summer or winter break, with huge apartment that she owns ON the university campus. Or a doctor, any age, any status, any income, coming over to USA for a medical conference.

Perhaps this concept of 'strong ties' is a shock to yer system? I can understand that, you betcha. Take a moment, take a break, go do something else, then study those 'strong ties' bits - as any Visa Officer uses those to overcome the presumption of 'immigrant intent'.

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If it wasn't a tourist visa, then we'd be talking about other rules, other regs, other means for adjudication, but - we're talking about a tourist visa here, ya?

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Many of us here, with a lass in China, did look into that 'tourist visa option' , only to learn about that 'strong ties' cr@p. For most, it's a deal-breaker, a show-stopper.

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Good Luck, whatever you decide to do.

Edited October 9, 2010 by Darnell