NVC Electronic Processing - October 2010

[Bob g 11]

My wife and I have talked almost everyday for over 2 years, on Yahoo Messenger. I have condensed the logs and chat samples of the Yahoo call history/emails to 30 pages. The chat/call logs show that we talk everyday, and the samples of about 1 or 2 for each month, show that we can communicate easy. All our photos, I put on 8 1/2 X 11, with 2, 4, or 6 photos with text on each sheet, about 10 sheets with 45 photos, using Microsoft Works. I have read many times that the Visa Officer may have their decision made prior to the interview. I have read many times that the Visa Officer may reject to look at "any" evidence brought to the Interview. I have read that USCIS does not always send all documents/evidence to NVC, but NVC does send all submitted documents/evidence to the Embassy. By sending evidence to the NVC, at least the Embassy Interview Officer has the opportunity to look at anything prior to the Interview.

[esd2004 1]

My wife and I have talked almost everyday for over 2 years, on Yahoo Messenger. I have condensed the logs and chat samples of the Yahoo call history/emails to 30 pages. The chat/call logs show that we talk everyday, and the samples of about 1 or 2 for each month, show that we can communicate easy. All our photos, I put on 8 1/2 X 11, with 2, 4, or 6 photos with text on each sheet, about 10 sheets with 45 photos, using Microsoft Works. I have read many times that the Visa Officer may have their decision made prior to the interview. I have read many times that the Visa Officer may reject to look at "any" evidence brought to the Interview. I have read that USCIS does not always send all documents/evidence to NVC, but NVC does send all submitted documents/evidence to the Embassy. By sending evidence to the NVC, at least the Embassy Interview Officer has the opportunity to look at anything prior to the Interview.

Hi Bob g,

You are definitely doing the right thing in my opinion.

I'm actually almost done with may assembly of the Evidence Portion (2nd PDF that will go along with my DS230 documentation email to NVCElectronic. I'll be done by today. I'm keeping my evidence done to the following not knowing what is being sent electronically to the Consulate.

1. Affirmation of Relationship letters from Mar 2009 to May 2010 (Marriage) (Both mine and my Wife's) (were included in the I-130 packet

2. Updates to the Marriage Relationship letters from May 2010 to Nov 2010 (Both mine and my Wife's)

3. Outlook Email Logs from Mar 2009 to Nov 2010

4. Skype logs covering Nov 2009 to Nov 2010

5. The Best of the sample photos from Oct 2009, Feb 2010, May 2010, Oct 2010

6. Evidence of Wire Transfers to my wife for China SIM chip, document Fees and Honeymoon trip to Bali

7. Evidence of placing my wife on my Health Insurance effective January 2011.

It is a balance of how much for file sizing and to give the consulate enough to say OK this looks good (of course this is a matter of judgment for each applicants electronic filling for those doing this).

Eric

[CanadaLove 16]

Hi CanadaLove,

For the packaging of the PDFs for my I-864 and my Wife's DS230 I was bring them down to an acceptable size that was also readable for someone who brought up the PDFs on the screen for review. If they look readable and viewing them and the text, signatures and any stamps are clear I would think you would be in good shape. Most of my wife and my scans were either 150dpi or 300dpi with a mixture of color scans (for the supporting documents that would have stampings such as police records, wife's bio page, her 2 photos) and the blank and white documents (the I-864, DS230, tax returns, tax transcripts, etc).

Other's may respond and give you there option as well.

Eric

Thanks for the response, Eric I think I'll keep with the 600 dpi for anything with a seal/stamp/signature, and will scan at lower resolution for black/white. Appreciate your input!

[esd2004 1]

Thanks for the response, Eric I think I'll keep with the 600 dpi for anything with a seal/stamp/signature, and will scan at lower resolution for black/white. Appreciate your input!

Your Welcome! Give your case much success with the Electronic filing!

Eric

[esd2004 1]

Well,

I finally finished the PDF assemblies for my Wife’s electronic filing of her DS230 package and the Front Loading of supporting evidence to NVC through NVCElectronic. This is how I setup the PDF documents for my wife:

DS-230 PDF Filing (32 pages, 6.5MB)

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This DS-230 Cover Letter (PDF Page 1)

IV DS-230 Coversheet (with barcode) (PDF Page 2)

IV Payment Receipt (PDF Page 3)

DS-230 Part 1 completed and signed by Beneficiary (PDF Pages 4-5)

DS-230 Part 2 completed by Beneficiary – unsigned, as of yet, per instructions (PDF Pages 6-7)

DS-230 Attachment completed and signed by Beneficiary (PDF Page 8)

U.S. Consulate General Guangzhou, China Packet 3 Supplemental (PDF Page 9)

Two (2) Passport Size Photographs of Beneficiary (PDF Pages 10-11)

Photocopy of the Biographic Data Page of Beneficiary’s Passport (PDF Page 12)

Original/Certified Birth Certificate of Beneficiary (with translation provided) (PDF Pages 13-18)

Original/Certified Marriage Certificate (PDF Pages 19-21)

Original/Certified Marriage Certificate (with translation provided) (PDF Pages 22-26)

Original/Certified China Police Clearance Certificate for Beneficiary (with translation) (PDF Pages 27-31)

Original/Certified Norway Police Clearance Certificate for Beneficiary (PDF Page 32)

Front Loaded PDF Filing of supporting evidence of marriage (65 pages, 4.6MB)

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Cover Letter

(Petitioner) – Affirmation of Relationship Document, March 2009 – May 2010 (Page 2-4)

(Petitioner) – Evolution of Relationship Document May 2010 – November 2010 (Page 5-6)

(Beneficiary) – Affirmation of Relationship Document, March 2009 – May 2010 (Page 7-14)

(Beneficiary) -- – Evolution of Relationship Document, May 2010 – November 2010 (Page 15)

Email Logs March 2009 – November 2010 (Page 16-46)

Skype Logs November 2009 – March 2010 (Page 47-48)

Skype Logs April 2010 – November 2010 (Page 49-52)

Pictures from Trips in Oct 2009, Feb 2010, May 2010 and October 2010 (Page 53-57)

Money Wire Transfer Receipt for China Mobile SIM (Page 58)

Money Wire Transfer Receipt for Notary Document Fees (Page 59)

Money Wire Transfer Receipt for Notary Document Fees (Page 60)

Money Wire Transfer Receipt for Bali Honeymoon Trip (Page 61)

(Beneficiary) added to (Petitioner) Health Insurance effective 1/1/2011 (Page 62)

October 2010 Trip Receipts (Beijing, Wuxi, Shanghai) (Page 63)

October 2010 Trip Receipts (Jakarta, Indonesia and Bali, Indonesia) (Page 64)

October 2010 Trip Receipts (Shanghai, Nanjing, Beijing) (Page 65)

I know you can always place more into the front loading or should I say “Middle Loading” since it’s being sent to NVCElectronic.

I know, it's front load in terms of being sent prior to attending the Interview.

Anyways, I felt this would help in getting the point across with our Bonafide Marriage.

Eric

[CanadaLove 16]

Hey Eric -

May be a dumb question, (might as well get them all out of the way now while there's still time to learn), but how did you get all your documents into one pdf? Did you scan all at once, or use something like CutePDF, or are you just that awesome?

Thanks!

[esd2004 1]

Hey Eric -

May be a dumb question, (might as well get them all out of the way now while there's still time to learn), but how did you get all your documents into one pdf? Did you scan all at once, or use something like CutePDF, or are you just that awesome?

Thanks!

Hi CanadaLove, I was using CutePDF Pro for the merging of all the PDF converstions. I bought one copy of the program for my laptop and have the CutePDF Printer Driver on all my systems and my wife's. In her case she just does the scans to JPG and send them to me and I do the processing for assembly.

I was playing different PDF Print drivers that were free.

I have been playing with

CutePDF Writer

PrimoPDF

Bullzip PDF Printer

Each one has it's one settings so I would get different results in order to get the PDF files readable and down to size.

I viewing all the listed PDF Creators for Windows from this wiki,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Microsoft_Windows

I was reviewing a few of the free ones. I still use CutePDF Pro for my final product.

Eric

[CanadaLove 16]

Thanks for the info! I'll play around with some of them and see which one I like best.

[esd2004 1]

Well, I haven't heard word about our email fillings from NVC as an email and I told myself I would call them to get at least a date in which our I-864 and DS230 case information was received.

I called and NVC operator and (he may of not know much) told me there was a date of Dec 2 in which the information was received. Ok? I don't think he when about EP cases because he said I should wait 20 business days for the processing to be completed. He didn't know if this was for the I-864 package or DS230. That sounded like a standard answer to me so I let it go and said thank you (for a date at least).

I called the AVR system this afternoon (Sat) and it said that the biometric info was received on 12/2 and they didn't have the AOS fee bill payment or the AOS information. So my assumption is maybe the AOS PDF package (I-864) is somewhere sitting in their system (I did get a autoreply for this) when I sent it to NVCelectronic. I sent the I-864 info on 11/19??? of course it was sent as a second attempt of a OPTIN at the time with only GUZ number. So I don't know now.

I will be grateful to get a supervisor on the phone early next week to at least get some more detail information and also see if I should send the I-864 information again.

If there is anyone else doing EP process in their case in china or elsewhere let me know how the document email processing is going with you also.

Thank you!

[golden101 0]

I encountered the same problem as dzhu1969 did: I sent out opt-in email on 11/02/2010, paid both AOS & IV fees. Somehow, I still didn't receive any confirmation email from NVCElectronic@state.gov. I called NVC operators twice - the first one said I should wait till I receive the confirmation email with new GZO# and then send out I-864 & DS-230 packages; but I called again yesterday and the lady told we should go ahead to send out both packages and after NVC receives them they will assign the GZO#.

I am totally lost and don't know who said correct. Any help? Thanks in advance.

In this case, please wait for the GZO number, look the timeline i had below, we sent out request on 10/30, but didn't get everything back for the rest 2 week, i called NVC several times, at first, the GZO number is still unknown, but on 11/16/10, they told me i had a GZO number, i got the number and sent the doucments right away, but the interesting part it i got my so called comformation mail for the NVC until 11/22, a week later than the acutl GZO number and showed up in my e-mailed box with my GZO number as title. but on 11/19,i had aready e-mailed out my stuff.

So...it's not hurt when you get the e-mail, but, but , but, pleaes wait for the GZO number, go the website and got your cover letter and e-mail the doucments to them.

I hope i made it clear.

[zwuu 0]

Well, I haven't heard word about our email fillings from NVC as an email and I told myself I would call them to get at least a date in which our I-864 and DS230 case information was received.

I called and NVC operator and (he may of not know much) told me there was a date of Dec 2 in which the information was received. Ok? I don't think he when about EP cases because he said I should wait 20 business days for the processing to be completed. He didn't know if this was for the I-864 package or DS230. That sounded like a standard answer to me so I let it go and said thank you (for a date at least).

I called the AVR system this afternoon (Sat) and it said that the biometric info was received on 12/2 and they didn't have the AOS fee bill payment or the AOS information. So my assumption is maybe the AOS PDF package (I-864) is somewhere sitting in their system (I did get a autoreply for this) when I sent it to NVCelectronic. I sent the I-864 info on 11/19??? of course it was sent as a second attempt of a OPTIN at the time with only GUZ number. So I don't know now.

I will be grateful to get a supervisor on the phone early next week to at least get some more detail information and also see if I should send the I-864 information again.

If there is anyone else doing EP process in their case in china or elsewhere let me know how the document email processing is going with you also.

Thank you!

Hi, I am Zwuu. Just want to update my schedule here, since I think we are in similar situation. I did too send in my AOS bill and IV bill while I was waiting for my GZO number on NOV 23,2010. The operator told me I could if I wanted to upload now and they will convert my old number to GZO number.

I just received Email today 12/10/10 my case closed ,and i am waiting for the interview date Email notification. I guess my point is as soon as you know you have a GZO number generated despite you don't have the "number" yet, you still can send in your AOS and IV package via Email. Zwuu.

[esd2004 1]

Hi, I am Zwuu. Just want to update my schedule here, since I think we are in similar situation. I did too send in my AOS bill and IV bill while I was waiting for my GZO number on NOV 23,2010. The operator told me I could if I wanted to upload now and they will convert my old number to GZO number.

I just received Email today 12/10/10 my case closed ,and i am waiting for the interview date Email notification. I guess my point is as soon as you know you have a GZO number generated despite you don't have the "number" yet, you still can send in your AOS and IV package via Email. Zwuu.

Hi Zwuu. Congratulations in you getting your CC (case closed)!!!!

I checked the AVR again last night and still had the same message pertaining to the DS230 being received and them waiting for the AOS even though I sent it on 11/19? I called NVC that evening and the person I talked to didn't know much about Electronic Processing and could only offer the the 12/2/2010 date and after being put on hold (requesting a supervisor or someone knowledgeable about EP) they said there wasn't anyone available. (the person was still nice on phone but not I presumed wasn't knowledgeable about these cases and they themselves recommended me to call back later. Anyways, I took matters into my own hands and forwarded a reply to NVCElectronic with my previous 11/19 email at the bottom and referencing the title of the previous PDF attachment name with a new email and AOS I864 PDF (with new GZO coversheet and payment receipt) and explaining in the email that this is a duplicate with the exception of the new GZO cover and payment sheets in the documents and if there was any confusion please contact me.

I would be grateful this is now cleared up so I can get to your CC step.

Thank you again Zwuu for your update and Congratulations Again!!!!!

Eric

[Matt n Shannon 3]

nice thread happy to help as well

[zwuu 0]

Hi Zwuu. Congratulations in you getting your CC (case closed)!!!!

I checked the AVR again last night and still had the same message pertaining to the DS230 being received and them waiting for the AOS even though I sent it on 11/19? I called NVC that evening and the person I talked to didn't know much about Electronic Processing and could only offer the the 12/2/2010 date and after being put on hold (requesting a supervisor or someone knowledgeable about EP) they said there wasn't anyone available. (the person was still nice on phone but not I presumed wasn't knowledgeable about these cases and they themselves recommended me to call back later. Anyways, I took matters into my own hands and forwarded a reply to NVCElectronic with my previous 11/19 email at the bottom and referencing the title of the previous PDF attachment name with a new email and AOS I864 PDF (with new GZO coversheet and payment receipt) and explaining in the email that this is a duplicate with the exception of the new GZO cover and payment sheets in the documents and if there was any confusion please contact me.

I would be grateful this is now cleared up so I can get to your CC step.

Thank you again Zwuu for your update and Congratulations Again!!!!!

Eric

Eric,

I think everything will be OK, all you need is time and patience. My understanding you mailed out your AOS packet and DS-230 packet in different time. NVC has to receive everything before they can give you CC. So you mailed out DS-230 on late November, you should get your CC next week sometime, I think. Mine took about 17 days after I mailed out those two packet. So count 17 days from the day you mailed out your last DS-230 and upfront loading documents, I am sure you will get response next week. I did too send those upfrount loading material on NOV 29, I guess those extra documents did not affect their speed to handle this matter. As a matter of fact this is the only mail I send out with NEW GZO number. I sent both DS-230 and AOS packet by using old case number on NOV 23 after the operator of NVC told me I have new number generated but not available at that time. The new case number arrived a week later through Email. The bottom line I think they have received your stuff but they didn't do anything until both DS-230 and AOS arrived. Good luck! Zwuu

[esd2004 1]

Eric,

I think everything will be OK, all you need is time and patience. My understanding you mailed out your AOS packet and DS-230 packet in different time. NVC has to receive everything before they can give you CC. So you mailed out DS-230 on late November, you should get your CC next week sometime, I think. Mine took about 17 days after I mailed out those two packet. So count 17 days from the day you mailed out your last DS-230 and upfront loading documents, I am sure you will get response next week. I did too send those upfrount loading material on NOV 29, I guess those extra documents did not affect their speed to handle this matter. As a matter of fact this is the only mail I send out with NEW GZO number. I sent both DS-230 and AOS packet by using old case number on NOV 23 after the operator of NVC told me I have new number generated but not available at that time. The new case number arrived a week later through Email. The bottom line I think they have received your stuff but they didn't do anything until both DS-230 and AOS arrived. Good luck! Zwuu

Thank you zwuu for the encouragment.

I contacted NVC AVR system on Saturday morning and go the "THE NVC HAS REVIEWED YOUR DOCUMENTS AND FOUND MISSING ..." and said it sent a checklist on 12/10/2011.

So I will be making a call into the operator on Monday 12/13 to see if this is true or a false RFE. I was pretty good in the assembly of all the AOS and IV PDF packages (emails). I good thing is at least there was a response of some kind for the AVR system right after I submitted the AOS I-864 PDF documentation again on 12/09 with an updated GZO cover and receipt. If the message is for the AOS email then at least I know they not have this in their posession as well as the IV packet with the 12/2/2010 received date.

My guess is maybe the first time I sent the AOS PDF docs on 11/19 as a GUZ email could of got lost in the process because it was a second OPTIN and since they gave me an email of OPTIN accept based on my wife's earlier OPTIN maybe they got ride of the my OPTIN and AOS PDF attachment. Who knows. At least the AVR system give's me some additional assurance that they have both AOS and IV pieces now.

I'll get this cleared up and see there it goes on Monday.

Thank you again zwuu for the information about the email dates and of for your case!

Eric

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