does muslim country have more difficult time to get K-1 ?

[ez075318 0]

my girlfriend is pure indonesian, and she is currently working in singapore, however i have heard that Indonesia is a muslim country, (but my girlfriend is a Christian) so I wonder if it will be more difficult or takes longer to grand the visa? any one faces the same situation?

[Andy and Kayla 45]

my girlfriend is pure indonesian, and she is currently working in singapore, however i have heard that Indonesia is a muslim country, (but my girlfriend is a Christian) so I wonder if it will be more difficult or takes longer to grand the visa? any one faces the same situation?

The initial petitions are all filed in either California's or Vermont's Service Centers so as far as that portion goes it doesn't make a difference which country the beneficiary is from.

Having said that, some consulates can be trickier than others and different consulates will be looking for different things based on visa fraud rate as well as cultural norms for that country, but you'd have to ask people who've gone through Indonesia for specifics on that consulate and even then, I think it really only comes up at the interview stage. As far as the time it takes to go through the consulate portion of the K1 process, it's entirely based on the workload and backlog of individual consulates.

Edited October 7, 2010 by Andy and Kayla

[Darnell 8,479]

actually,

if she was IN the middle east, yes, there's some issues - and usually just for male beneficiaries

2 good things -

1. she's indonesian and

2. she's working in singapura

US Embassy/SG is really really efficient and fast. Will she be interviewing in Singapura or Jakarta ? I suggest Singapura, if possible.

Jakarta not so bad as Morocco, thankfully.

[ez075318 0]

thanks you so much!

this is very encouraging, i have countless times worrying about this!

much appreciated!

actually,

if she was IN the middle east, yes, there's some issues - and usually just for male beneficiaries

2 good things -

1. she's indonesian and

2. she's working in singapura

US Embassy/SG is really really efficient and fast. Will she be interviewing in Singapura or Jakarta ? I suggest Singapura, if possible.

Jakarta not so bad as Morocco, thankfully.

[payxibka 10,047]

not a K-1 visa process issue, moving to general discussion forum

[J&N* 68]

I'm from a pure middle eastern and Muslim country, Egypt, but I am also a Christian and I had no problem at all, got approved right away and a few days later got my passport! I was wearing my cross necklace so they might have seen it.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Religion is irrelevant. In fact there's no question about it on any of the forms that I completed.

What IS relevant is whether the country is a high-fraud country. Australia and Canada are low-fraud (among others), Philippines, Nigeria, Russia, Ukraine are high-fraud (again among others)... here's the fraud list: http://www.wymoo.com/fraud-risk.html it's not a complete list I don't think but it's pretty accurate.

Anyway high-fraud countries can sometimes take a bit longer but it's not a lot longer. Sometimes the questions are more intense as they try to spot marriage or relationship fraud. As long as you're a legit couple (with the proof to show it) you have nothing to worry about.

[payxibka 10,047]

here's the fraud list: http://www.wymoo.com/fraud-risk.html it's not a complete list I don't think but it's pretty accurate.

not only not a complete list, but not authoritative either particularly as it relates to visa fraud. It is merely private companies viewpoint.

A high fraud post for visas is one where applicants are more frequently denied than average or are subjected to higher levels of added scrutiny.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

not only not a complete list, but not authoritative either particularly as it relates to visa fraud. It is merely private companies viewpoint.

A high fraud post for visas is one where applicants are more frequently denied than average or are subjected to higher levels of added scrutiny.

I know it's not a complete list.. that's why I said it's not. I also know it's a private company's list, but it is also accurate in terms of what countries it DOES list as high fraud.

I know high-fraud to be those countries who are given higher scrutiny due to a lot of marriage fraud. I do not consider rate of denials to mean a high-fraud country simply because SO many slip through the cracks. Some countries just have a lot more marriage fraud than others do and that is what I consider a high-fraud country.

[payxibka 10,047]

I know it's not a complete list.. that's why I said it's not. I also know it's a private company's list, but it is also accurate in terms of what countries it DOES list as high fraud.

I know high-fraud to be those countries who are given higher scrutiny due to a lot of marriage fraud. I do not consider rate of denials to mean a high-fraud country simply because SO many slip through the cracks. Some countries just have a lot more marriage fraud than others do and that is what I consider a high-fraud country.

You said religion is irrelevant to the issuance of a visa. Correct

You said being from a high fraud country is relevant. Incorrect.

What is relevant is being from a country with HIGH VISA fraud.

You specifically called out Russia and Ukraine as high fraud countries (maybe in a general sense this might be correct) but they are NOT high visa fraud countries. So one does not always translate to the other. So the only authoritative source for determination of high fraud visa issuing posts, is the Department of State.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

You said religion is irrelevant to the issuance of a visa. Correct

You said being from a high fraud country is relevant. Incorrect.

What is relevant is being from a country with HIGH VISA fraud.

You specifically called out Russia and Ukraine as high fraud countries (maybe in a general sense this might be correct) but they are NOT high visa fraud countries. So one does not always translate to the other. So the only authoritative source for determination of high fraud visa issuing posts, is the Department of State.

High VISA fraud was implied due to the nature of the post. Either way we disagree about Russia and Ukraine. I consider them high relationship fraud countries... so whether that means to get a visa, or to simply scam some poor schmoe out of money.. same thing.

**Edit - I can't find a list on state.gov and I doubt there is one but I think there should be.. to warn some people to be more careful... like mcat.. though he prolly would have ignored us anyway :S

Edited October 11, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[payxibka 10,047]

High VISA fraud was implied due to the nature of the post. Either way we disagree about Russia and Ukraine. I consider them high relationship fraud countries... so whether that means to get a visa, or to simply scam some poor schmoe out of money.. same thing.

**Edit - I can't find a list on state.gov and I doubt there is one but I think there should be.. to warn some people to be more careful... like mcat.. though he prolly would have ignored us anyway :S

Please... for the purposes of a ease or difficulty of getting a K-1 (which was the reason for the thread), high levels of internet scam are irrelevant. The typical "relationship" scam in Ukraine & Russia are nothing more than internet scams and are not anywhere near to visa fraud.

MCat is a troll. I know many people have bought this story but I am surprised you have bought into him/her.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Please... for the purposes of a ease or difficulty of getting a K-1 (which was the reason for the thread), high levels of internet scam are irrelevant. The typical "relationship" scam in Ukraine & Russia are nothing more than internet scams and are not anywhere near to visa fraud.

Agreed. There are a lot of relationship scams coming out of FSU countries, but most of them involve girls (or guys posing as girls) trying to milk lonely Americans and other westerners out of some money. They have no intention of ever actually applying for a visa since that would put an end to a lucrative business. Feedback from VJ members indicates that Kiev and Moscow and relatively easy consulates.

If that list was reflective of the level of visa fraud then I would think China would be a higher risk than the Philippines, and Vietnam isn't even on the list.

@Vanessa, I don't think the Department of State wants us to know which consulates they consider to be a high risk of visa fraud. It's common knowledge that they classify the countries according to risk, but if they actually published this information it could be used as the basis for a lawsuit from petitioners whose fiancees and spouses were denied a visa, claiming they didn't receive fair treatment because of a preconceived bias by the consulate.