India decides on Russia as source for 5G-stealth fighters

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The thread has nothing to do with AUS, so yes you are trolling.

So then every post of yours is trolling? Since none of the threads here are about Australia yet you bring Australia up in every post you make. Strange.

[Pooky 3,825]

PAK-FA looks cool, but is still way behind the LockMart F22 Raptor in terms of stealth and integrated battlefield systems. And don't worry about comparative manoeuvrability, because the F22 is designed never to have to get into a dogfight.

As for the LockMart F-35 Thunderpig? I got nothing. It's a mess. It's in serious developmental trouble. It's overweight and it doesn't do enough to make it worth the price. Plus, it's ugly.

India was never in the market for the F-35. Their Multi-Role Combat Aircraft requirement is being duked out by the LockMart F-16, Eurofighter Typhoon, MiG-35, SAAB Gripen, Dassault Rafale and, maybe, the Boeing F/A-18E/F SuperBug. They want something soon, and the F-35 Thunderpig won't be.

As for the PAK-FA, India wanted in on the tech and, with the Russians, they put their money where it mattered. They have been financial backers for the project and will assemble most of their order in India, as they usually do. There was no American kit available to fulfil the requirement, as the F-22 Raptor is subject to a Congressional export ban.

The Pakistanis won't ask just for American kit, either. They have a healthy liking for Chinese aerial hardware, which is rather like knock-off Russian kit at a knock-down price. They are tech-partners on a couple of Chinese planes and have quite a few in their inventory.

Edited October 7, 2010 by Pooky

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The F-22 is the most advanced fighter in existence.

[Pooky 3,825]

The F-22 is the most advanced fighter in known existence.

There are always black projects in the works.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

There are always black projects in the works.

The US is generally first with next gen fighters. And the secret projects are a long way from production.

[Pooky 3,825]

The US is generally first with next gen fighters. And the secret projects are a long way from production.

Not quite. Black projects are usually only sent into the white world when there is no longer a need to keep them secret. They have often been in service for a while.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Not quite. Black projects are usually only sent into the white world when there is no longer a need to keep them secret. They have often been in service for a while.

But not in large quantities.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

But they're a peaceful people so they don't need a military. Everyone is quite happy there and has a high quality of life. They find happiness by telling everyone how happy they are and how much better they are than the rest of the world. Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't pay any attention to them.

But they are STEALTH fighters. No one will see them...that's the beauty of it. Peaceful, quiet, unobtrusive and will blow the snot out of those pesky salt water crocs that seem to be wandering off the reservation now and again. I have a few myself, made them in my garage. State of the art invisible stealth fighters. I will sell them for only $10 million each...free delivery.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

PAK-FA looks cool, but is still way behind the LockMart F22 Raptor in terms of stealth and integrated battlefield systems. And don't worry about comparative manoeuvrability, because the F22 is designed never to have to get into a dogfight.

As for the LockMart F-35 Thunderpig? I got nothing. It's a mess. It's in serious developmental trouble. It's overweight and it doesn't do enough to make it worth the price. Plus, it's ugly.

India was never in the market for the F-35. Their Multi-Role Combat Aircraft requirement is being duked out by the LockMart F-16, Eurofighter Typhoon, MiG-35, SAAB Gripen, Dassault Rafale and, maybe, the Boeing F/A-18E/F SuperBug. They want something soon, and the F-35 Thunderpig won't be.

As for the PAK-FA, India wanted in on the tech and, with the Russians, they put their money where it mattered. They have been financial backers for the project and will assemble most of their order in India, as they usually do. There was no American kit available to fulfil the requirement, as the F-22 Raptor is subject to a Congressional export ban.

The Pakistanis won't ask just for American kit, either. They have a healthy liking for Chinese aerial hardware, which is rather like knock-off Russian kit at a knock-down price. They are tech-partners on a couple of Chinese planes and have quite a few in their inventory.

dang it. Burlington and The Green Mountain Boys are scheduled to get F-35s to defend us from Quebec! What the heck? Are we supposed to use F-16f's until then? What of they come pouring over the border in boats on Lake Champlain...oh I am so afraid.

[Heracles 417]

I thought F22 orders were canceled.

Nevertheless, how about an f22 to help fight the economy or the dwindling living standard.

Edited October 8, 2010 by Heracles

[Pooky 3,825]

dang it. Burlington and The Green Mountain Boys are scheduled to get F-35s to defend us from Quebec! What the heck? Are we supposed to use F-16f's until then? What of they come pouring over the border in boats on Lake Champlain...oh I am so afraid.

And that's another reason I dislike the Thunderpig intensely. It's a bomb truck. Touting it as as air-to-air asset is insane, as it's stealth capabilities are nowhere near that of the F-22. It will get d!cked out of sight by anything 4th Gen or better.

I still like the F-16. It's grown a fair bit since it's LWF days, but it's still pretty good for a plane that's been flying 36 years and counting.

Mind you, the Quebecois only have F/A-18's, so the Thunderpig might actually stand a chance.

[Ban Hammer 13,465]

And that's another reason I dislike the Thunderpig intensely. It's a bomb truck. Touting it as as air-to-air asset is insane, as it's stealth capabilities are nowhere near that of the F-22. It will get d!cked out of sight by anything 4th Gen or better.

I still like the F-16. It's grown a fair bit since it's LWF days, but it's still pretty good for a plane that's been flying 36 years and counting.

Mind you, the Quebecois only have F/A-18's, so the Thunderpig might actually stand a chance.

i still like the a-10

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

i still like the a-10

As far as Soviet hardware goes, you can't beat them for durability. Conditions that would destroy high tech US warcraft, are the status quo in the FSU.

[Pooky 3,825]

i still like the a-10

Ever seen one fire the gun for real?

I saw one at an aerial gunnery range off the Norfolk coast, when they were stationed at RAF Bentwaters. It's impressive and not in the least bit subtle ... at all

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

And that's another reason I dislike the Thunderpig intensely. It's a bomb truck. Touting it as as air-to-air asset is insane, as it's stealth capabilities are nowhere near that of the F-22. It will get d!cked out of sight by anything 4th Gen or better.

I still like the F-16. It's grown a fair bit since it's LWF days, but it's still pretty good for a plane that's been flying 36 years and counting.

Mind you, the Quebecois only have F/A-18's, so the Thunderpig might actually stand a chance.

I feel safer now. The F-16s are zooming around nearly constantly, the Quebecois better just stay on their side of the fence, I tell ya!