Health costs to $oar

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Same brand name drug dude, just different pricing in the rest of the world versus the US.

We don't really do generic in AUS.

You should be thankful we are paying for the R&D. What drugs has Aus. came up with lately?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Same brand name drug dude, just different pricing in the rest of the world versus the US.

We don't really do generic in AUS.

read what i said, the LAW is what makes these drugs so expensive. The government doesn't work for the people, it works for the pharmaceutical companies. Even OBAMACARE still protects big pharma... Canadian drugs are 10 times cheaper, yet it's against the law to import them....

[Heracles 417]

You should be thankful we are paying for the R&D. What drugs has Aus. came up with lately?

Pick up a science or medical journal every now and then and you might be surprised.

People living in the woods of Washington state of all places, do not come up with much.

At least come live in this neck of the woods, where the real - traditional - Americans live.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Pick up a science or medical journal every now and then and you might be surprised.

People living in the woods of Washington state of all places, do not come up with much.

At least come live in this neck of the woods, where the real - traditional - Americans live.

In other words you got no charts? You be livin off our technology.

Edited October 5, 2010 by Col. Lingus

[Heracles 417]

read what i said, the LAW is what makes these drugs so expensive. The government doesn't work for the people, it works for the pharmaceutical companies. Even OBAMACARE still protects big pharma... Canadian drugs are 10 times cheaper, yet it's against the law to import them....

I wonder who put such legislation into place. Sounds an awful lot like Repubs taking care of their cronies.

Nevertheless, you dodge the question of why are brand name prescriptions cheaper in countries like Canada and beyond? This has nothing to do with importation or any other nonsense.

[Heracles 417]

In other words you got no charts? You be livin off our technology.

Tell me the last time someone like you created any pharmaceutical or any other discovery.

Half the scientist and engineers working on that stuff are foreign anyway.

PS Nice attempt to dodge that health care costs 1/3 in other countries and is better.

Edited October 5, 2010 by Heracles

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Tell me the last time someone like you created any pharmaceutical or any other discovery.

Half the scientist and engineers working on that stuff are foreign anyway.

PS Nice attempt to dodge that health care costs 1/3 in other countries and is better.

When was the last time someone like you did?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I wonder who put such legislation into place. Sounds an awful lot like Repubs taking care of their cronies.

Nevertheless, you dodge the question of why are brand name prescriptions cheaper in countries like Canada and beyond? This has nothing to do with importation or any other nonsense.

There are no controls over big pharma outside of the FDA.

They a lot of times get grants to do R&D (many do it on their own though) and when they put a drug on the market, they sell it @ a premium based on the advertising/marketing dollars, cost of production, etc.. that goes into the drug... all drugs are inherently expensive when they come out and come down in price over time (when the patent runs out), but as long as the drug companies are allowed to have long-term patents, then they are going to be expensive....

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Tell me the last time someone like you created any pharmaceutical or any other discovery.

Half the scientist and engineers working on that stuff are foreign anyway.

PS Nice attempt to dodge that health care costs 1/3 in other countries and is better.

The only Dodge I see, is the one your drivin!

[Heracles 417]

The only Dodge I see, is the one your drivin!

The thread is about health care costs, not who invents what.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The thread is about health care costs, not who invents what.

Still no charts and graphs? On how Aus. is on the cutting edge of medicine?

[Heracles 417]

There are no controls over big pharma outside of the FDA.

They a lot of times get grants to do R&D (many do it on their own though) and when they put a drug on the market, they sell it @ a premium based on the advertising/marketing dollars, cost of production, etc.. that goes into the drug... all drugs are inherently expensive when they come out and come down in price over time (when the patent runs out), but as long as the drug companies are allowed to have long-term patents, then they are going to be expensive....

You missed the point again; same drug, totally different pricing depending on the country. Don't try to use any anti-government angle either, as the FDA equivalents abroad are three times as strict. After all, it takes double the testing before medication is released in the market in AUS. They also have the authority to withdraw medication much easier and quicker.

Edited October 5, 2010 by Heracles

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE

[ready4ONE 5,400]

No, they're proving that the main purpose of health insurance companies is ... shock! horror! ... to make a profit, make money for their shareholders and pay their executives.

How do you, the human being on the service end of health care, benefit one iota from a middle man, for profit corporation making money managing (read making sure they take in more than you receive in benefits) your health care?

*crickets chirping*

[Pooky 3,828]

How do you, the human being on the service end of health care, benefit one iota from a middle man, for profit corporation making money managing (read making sure they take in more than you receive in benefits) your health care?

As I have said consistently since this "healthcare" reform farce started, insurance companies need to be removed from any involvement in the basic provision of healthcare, as their main role is to remove money from the healthcare system. They are, by definition, an inefficiency built into the system.

It is settling for "something" to be done, rather than the right things, that has landed us in the mess we see unfolding now.