Tennessee County’s Subscription-Based Firefighters Watch As Family Home Burns Down

[Ban Hammer 13,465]

The whole structure is wrong. We have cities within counties, which is just ridiculous - it's stupid actually.

Fire, police and education should all be operated on a state level. Less Bureaucracy and more resources available to the services. Does Walmart or a local town convenience store have a greater buying power and able to be more efficient? Therefore, if we like how business operate so much, why don't we implement these exact same business strategies on a government level?

all a pipe dream. if one takes fire, police, and education out of the local government where people have a voice at the local level, then what will we have? oh right, more elections for some elite in the state capital, far removed from our reality. we see how well that's working out at the national level, and you want this fiasco to be modeled by the states?

while i live in the county, i'd pay the $75 yearly fee in the op. i think it's silly this is even in the news.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Nothing in the US Constitution dictates what states and counties have the authority to operate? In addition, what the federal government cannot run.

On a state/local level, the state consitutions are what dictates that.

There's not much the Federal Government cannot do really except for what's outlines in the bill of rights.... The constitution doesn't say that the government can't own a McDonald's franchise if it really wants to....

[Heracles 417]

all a pipe dream. if one takes fire, police, and education out of the local government where people have a voice at the local level, then what will we have? oh right, more elections for some elite in the state capital, far removed from our reality. we see how well that's working out at the national level, and you want this fiasco to be modeled by the states?

while i live in the county, i'd pay the $75 yearly fee in the op. i think it's silly this is even in the news.

No what's silly is that this happens in a so-called developed country.

Okay, so now you guys don't like business - the private sector. Reason being, no private sector would have their business functions replicated in every town or county they operate in.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I imagine that home owner wishes he paid that fee.

[Heracles 417]

I imagine that home owner wishes he paid that fee.

[Ban Hammer 13,465]

No what's silly is that this happens in a so-called developed country.

Okay, so now you guys don't like business - the private sector. Reason being, no private sector would have their business functions replicated in every town or county they operate in.

what did you draw the conclusion that i don't like businesses from?

Edited October 4, 2010 by charles!

[onwa 6]

The stupid part is that the guy offered to pay the fee and then some. He would have still had some damage to his house. But they could have stopped it. Refusing to put out the fire even after he offered to pay is just being #######.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

This is what happens when you have states rights and all of that other stupid azz #######, that plagues that shithole section of the country.

What sort of fools endorse this ####### in their country?

I disagree. I have lived in rural areas and this kind of thing is not unusual. Rural living has its own set of problems as to how to get utilities, fire protection TV, internet, yada, yada. When you move there it is something you have to consider...unless you are stupid and I support a persons right to be stupid...at their own expense. They chose not to pay the fee and therefore are on their own. The mistakes here are that they ...

1. Called the fire department

2. The fire department arrived to watch.

If you live in New Yoprk and your house catches fire, do you call the fire department in Ohio? No. You call the fire department you pay for, one way or another. Many areas simply have NO fire protection at all, none. Other areas take different routes to pay for it. We have a fire volunteer fire department but pay for equipment and such with taxes...I reckon more than $75 per year! If another city gets called because you have abig fire, you get the bill! A big bill! If you have insurance, the insurance will probably pay for it. If you don't, YOU will pay for it.

If this penny pincher doesn't have insurance should some insurance company pay for his stuff anyway? Which one? I would bet he doesn't have insurance.

At what point and when and for what are people responsible for themselves? I mean, should we even have private property if it is a public liability to protect it for all possible danger? How can we privatize profit and socialize risk? You build a house, if you do not burn it down and sell it for a profit, you get to keep the money. But if your investment burns down, the public will pay for it? Makes no sense at all. If a person cannot take responsibility in how to protect his home from fire, then when?

[Heracles 417]

Strange It's no coincidence that we don't hear of such problems elsewhere in the first world. Looks like big-government works fantastic for the citizens abroad.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Strange It's no coincidence that we don't hear of such problems elsewhere in the first world. Looks like big-government works fantastic for the citizens abroad.

no other 'first-world' nation has anywhere near the population that our country does, nor do they have a population spread over land like we do either.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Strange It's no coincidence that we don't hear of such problems elsewhere in the first world. Looks like big-government works fantastic for the citizens abroad.

and I am happy for them.

[Heracles 417]

no other 'first-world' nation has anywhere near the population that our country does, nor do they have a population spread over land like we do either. our antiquated approach to government. Nor the volume of anti-government batshit crazies.

Australia and Canada manage just fine and have a population density that is 11 times lower.

and I am happy for them.

I've saved a good article about health care and Vermont. I am just waiting for the right time to bring it up.

Hint: Has to do with your claim Canadians come to Vermont for treatment. Article seems to suggest the opposite.

Edited October 5, 2010 by Heracles

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Australia and Canada manage just fine and have a population density that is 11 times lower.

I've saved a good article about health care and Vermont. I am just waiting for the right time to bring it up.

Hint: Has to do with your claim Canadians come to Vermont for treatment. Article seems to suggest the opposite.

BY, this may come as a shock to you, but not everyone needs so much government in their lives. Not everyone wants it and not everyone wants some idiot thinking they know better than them in office controlling their lives. Liberals do. The Religious Right does. Sane people do not.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Australia and Canada manage just fine and have a population density that is 11 times lower.

I am glad you mentioned that. I have a very good friend that lives in Lake Abitibi, Quebec. 7 jours drive north and west of Montreal. That would be...YES...CANADA! I suspected as much, the red and white Maple Leaf flags at the border I cross give it away. If his house catches fire it will burn down to the ground. Unless it is not winter and he can put it out with a garden hose. There is no fire department to call. You will not read about it when it happens.

On Memorial Day, Burlington VT was choked by smoke for a few days because of huge forest fires in Quebec, hundreds of rural home burned down. Did you hear about it? You are telling me that there is a well equipped fire department and a source of large amounts of water within emergency response time of every home in Australia and Canada? Please, do not make me laugh. Quebec has a population of 7 million in an area bigger than Alaska. In most areas you can drive for hours and hours and not see a fire station. Don't be ridiculous.

the fact is, it does not always "work fine" for Canada and I doubt it does for Australia either.

Australia and Canada manage just fine and have a population density that is 11 times lower.

I've saved a good article about health care and Vermont. I am just waiting for the right time to bring it up.

Hint: Has to do with your claim Canadians come to Vermont for treatment. Article seems to suggest the opposite.

Hey post it! I will print it and put it under the wipers of all the cars with Quebec lisence plates over at the hospital.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Australia and Canada manage just fine and have a population density that is 11 times lower.

I've saved a good article about health care and Vermont. I am just waiting for the right time to bring it up.

Hint: Has to do with your claim Canadians come to Vermont for treatment. Article seems to suggest the opposite.

I am honored though. You really think they did a whole article because of what I say on VJ? I wonder if it will be as good as the report on BATF tracing guns? We'll see.