Dual citizenship question

[tonglebeak 0]

First of all, this question isn't regarding me, but I'm asking on behalf of a canadian.

She was born in Canada, but her father was an american citizen. Unfortunately, her parents didn't seek to get her us citizenship. She's 19 now, and is wondering how she can apply for dual citizenship (it seems she qualifies. Her dad is/was an american citizen, and her grandparents are american citizens).

Where does she need to start at? I tried finding phone numbers for her, for the us consulate in toronto, but apparently they don't take phone calls and she really doesn't have a way to travel there. I'm no help as I don't have a passport to enter canada

[Inky 1,111]

Where does she live. Most citys have a US embassy in them.

[Inky 1,111]

Here go on this site, tell her to go on this site. It will tell her if she qualifys for dual citizenship she has to fill it all out to find out because she is not a minor and never had a CRBA.

http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/usa_citizenship_claim.asp

edit - it also has the forms to fill out to try and get a US passport as an adult but she will need alot of information from her father including their marriage certificate and her birth certificate listing him as the father. She will also need to pay filing fees.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Inky

[tonglebeak 0]

Niagara falls

Inky: I see there's a $135 fee. Is that ONLY if she qualifies for dual citizenship, or is it $135 to "see if she or isn't"

[tonglebeak 0]

Also, another question. Is she required to applyi for the us passport?

[Inky 1,111]

Niagara falls

Inky: I see there's a $135 fee. Is that ONLY if she qualifies for dual citizenship, or is it $135 to "see if she or isn't"

It looks like she would have to take it to toronto regardless..

The fee is for filing for the paperwork/passport, if they do find she is unable to be given dual citizenship then she probably couldnt get the money back.

heres the toronto site http://gocanada.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=gocanada&cdn=travel&tm=95&gps=518_485_1497_680&f=10&su=p531.51.336.ip_&tt=11&bt=0&bts=0&st=36&zu=http%3A//www.amcits.com/toronto.asp

a US citizen could call and ask some questions

heres a phoneline listed on the toronto website

U.S. Embassy information lines:

1-888-840-0032 from either the U.S. or Canada - you will be asked to provide your credit card number. CA$1.59/minute

edit:: would probably be cheaper if her dad could call since hes a US citizen and they seem to only take calls from US citizens!

Edited September 30, 2010 by Inky

[tonglebeak 0]

Thanks for the response Inky. I'll gather up more info and take it from there.

[Inky 1,111]

Also, another question. Is she required to applyi for the us passport?

The only way she can obtain dual citizenship as an adult is to qualify for it and obtain a US passport. The US passport will give her dual citizenship

[tonglebeak 0]

Thanks again Inky!

[NickD 203]

First off, don't call it dual citizenship, she is just applying for US citizenship, or verification of it. Would need her fathers birth certificate. Could check into filing an N-600 as well.

Flip of a coin as to whether its better to deal directly with the USCIS, or a US consulate, depends on which one is nicer.

[Inky 1,111]

First off, don't call it dual citizenship, she is just applying for US citizenship, or verification of it. Would need her fathers birth certificate. Could check into filing an N-600 as well.

Flip of a coin as to whether its better to deal directly with the USCIS, or a US consulate, depends on which one is nicer.

It is dual citizenship for an adult applying for it since there was no CRBA at the time of birth.

Canadians are allowed dual citizenship, it is CALLED dual citizenship because you hold 2 citizenships.

[lissa04 3]

Yes but in the US they no longer consider your Canadian citizenship. That is why on your naturalization certificate it shows your FORMER country of citizenship. When you take your oath you actually renounce your citizenship or titles that you have in any other country. Canada will consider dual citizenship but the US won't!!!!

It is dual citizenship for an adult applying for it since there was no CRBA at the time of birth.

Canadians are allowed dual citizenship, it is CALLED dual citizenship because you hold 2 citizenships.

[NickD 203]

Yes but in the US they no longer consider your Canadian citizenship. That is why on your naturalization certificate it shows your FORMER country of citizenship. When you take your oath you actually renounce your citizenship or titles that you have in any other country. Canada will consider dual citizenship but the US won't!!!!

Just a minor technicality, our Department of State calls it dual nationality because they recognize since they put your place of birth on a US passport, an immigrant may still be required to maintain their home country passport to enter. But its dual citizenship, no ifs, ors, or buts about that, but conflicts with your oath. So they call it dual nationality instead.

You use the now famous, don't ask don't tell philosophy created by our twisted government. You are just applying for US citizenship, period, or in this case, verification of US citizenship. Unfortunately for this girl, while she is technically a US citizen, but, she is stuck with a Canadian birth certificate that carries more weight than anything with these government agencies. so you have to fill out forms and pay fees to rectify this situation, and she will receive a naturalized citizenship piece of paper, even though, technically, she is a US citizen.

We don't make the laws of this country, we have elected idiots to do that for us.

[tonglebeak 0]

Went to look over this again:

# Certified copy of the Parents' Marriage Certificate.

I don't think her parents were married. Does this have any impact?

[tonglebeak 0]

Bumpity bump?