GOP majority will issue birther subpoenas

[luckytxn 2,265]

Always did wonder why he spent a million bucks to get his birth certificate. Cost me like 20 bucks to get a certified copy.

[mawilson 2,133]

If, hypothetically speaking, he was not born on U.S. soil, he is not going to be punished from birth of citizenship simply because he mother was too young to meet the 5 years beyond age 16. To even entertain such a possibility is asinine.

What are you saying? That the law should be disregarded in his case?

[mawilson 2,133]

A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched

I refer you to Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part I, § 1401, Subsection (g) of the US Code:

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

(This is the current version of the law. Note that it says "five years, at least two", not "ten years, at least five".)

I refer you to the 1986 amendment to Subsection (g):

1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.

Effective Date of 1986 Amendment

Section 23(d) of Pub. L. 99–653, as added by Pub. L. 100–525, § 8®, Oct. 24, 1988, 102 Stat. 2619, provided that: “The amendment made by section 12 [amending this section] shall apply to persons born on or after November 14, 1986.”

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What are you saying? That the law should be disregarded in his case?

This is where jurisprudence comes into play. Laws are never perfectly written and that part was not designed to exclude children born to mothers who are under the age of 21 - there's no logic nor any legal precedence for it.

[mawilson 2,133]

This is where jurisprudence comes into play. Laws are never perfectly written and that part was not designed to exclude children born to mothers who are under the age of 21 - there's no logic nor any legal precedence for it.

The law is as clear as day (see above). In fact, that particular subsection was amended in 1986 to make it less exclusionary.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

This is where jurisprudence comes into play. Laws are never perfectly written and that part was not designed to exclude children born to mothers who are under the age of 21 - there's no logic nor any legal precedence for it.

Jurisprudence is this case would be to follow the law as written, tempered only by precedence, and the practice of stare decisis, not make it up on a case by case basis.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Everyone knows that if Obama the Socialist had to step down then Biden becomes President...right?

[mawilson 2,133]

Everyone knows that if Obama the Socialist had to step down then Biden becomes President...right?

Great. Biden is a lame duck - he won't do much harm.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Everyone knows that if Obama the Socialist had to step down then Biden becomes President...right?

Me likes Joe. He is like Cheney on steroids.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Y'all are nuts. This guy I am betting can rake it in big time and in record time.

[evli1966 88]

Seriously? It's one thing to disagree with his policies, but to even fantasize about him being imprisoned because you don't like him personally is peculiar. Unless you actually believe he has committed a crime while in office. This I'd like to hear.

I agree I wish no Ill to them man but if the laws state he is to be prosecuted then so be it.

The crminal act would be willful intent to decieve the US Government (perjury I would think)and with intent to obstruct justice by the sealing of his birth records.

Right, and then he would do the honorable thing and resign.

I hope they investigate him, just because they should check things out like this. Should be very quick and easy and we can probably get an answer for less than $1,000,000. Cheap. Besides we can use the "Democrats out of Power" dividend to pay for it or maybe some of the stimulus funds. Why not?

It would no tmatter he would be impeached and removed.

Ostrizised by any political party.

This is where jurisprudence comes into play. Laws are never perfectly written and that part was not designed to exclude children born to mothers who are under the age of 21 - there's no logic nor any legal precedence for it.

Really do you truly belive that about laws.

I can personally direct you to new laws being written against tax paying law abiding citizens that are based on myth, anger, non facts and hate. But the ignorant populace and politicinas working the emotions of the populace keep passing these laws with no factual research to back them. Lets see you taek up the banner to help these people and their familuies that are affected.

Obama made staements to support and see to the funding of the biggest of these laws so far so Karma can be a B*&^%.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I'm always amazed at the tards who still believe that Obama is some sort of muslim kenyan manchurian candidate.

[evli1966 88]

I'm always amazed at the tards who still believe that Obama is some sort of muslim kenyan manchurian candidate.

I truly do not believe that

I think there may be questions raised due to the birth certificate when it is reviewed.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I truly do not believe that

I think there may be questions raised due to the birth certificate when it is reviewed.

For the chromosome challenged birthers, even his state issued birth certificate wasn't enough, what would be evidence that they would accept? Affidavit's?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Jurisprudence is this case would be to follow the law as written, tempered only by precedence, and the practice of stare decisis, not make it up on a case by case basis.

...the "natural-born citizen" requirement is not so straightforward either, because the Constitution didn't define what a natural-born citizen was. (The definition of "natural-born citizen" was left up to individual states to decide until the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, but even that amendment has been subject to further interpretation.) What qualifies a person for natural-born citizenship status under U.S. law can be quite complicated, depending on factors such as where the person was born, when he was born, where he and his parents lived, and the nationalities of his parents.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp