How China PWND Japan

[Heracles 417]

If China ever decides to "come over" it won't be a Soviet-style Red Dawn attack, it'll be a nice big ol' EMP followed by massive amounts of bio/chem weapons released into the jet stream from freighters parked 1,000 miles off the coast. In truth, all they'd really have to do is cut us off economically. We'd crumble in a few weeks.

I realize that like most concepts, that went over your head, but I was not speaking Military wise. China is investing in China, by building infrastructure to support their future. They have also learned the Japanese way of looking long-term. To the majority of the first world and various emerging countries, investment and infrastructure does not equate to guns and the military. We saw where that type of investment got the Soviet Union - bankrupt.

Edited September 25, 2010 by Heracles

[luckytxn 2,265]

What does Japan have to fear? They have the U.S. To back them up militarily so China won't try to do squat. The same thing Aussie land have no fears. Anyone try anything with them then they deal with the U.S. military.

Hey China Taiwan is sitting right there so go take it wussies.

[slim 1,533]

I realize that like most concepts, that went over your head, but I was not speaking Military wise. China is investing in China, by building infrastructure to support their future. They have also learned the Japanese way of looking long-term. To the majority of the first world and various emerging countries, investment and infrastructure does not equate to guns and the military. We saw where that type of investment got the Soviet Union - bankrupt.

What if the U.S. pulls it's backing of AUS? How cool would you guys look then?

What does Japan have to fear? They have the U.S. To back them up militarily so China won't try to do squat. The same thing Aussie land have no fears. Anyone try anything with them then they deal with the U.S. military.

Hey China Taiwan is sitting right there so go take it wussies.

And there it is.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I realize that like most concepts, that went over your head, but I was not speaking Military wise. China is investing in China, by building infrastructure to support their future. They have also learned the Japanese way of looking long-term. To the majority of the first world and various emerging countries, investment and infrastructure does not equate to guns and the military. We saw where that type of investment got the Soviet Union - bankrupt.

The amount they are investing doesn't really amount to anything.

In simple terms lets say in Australia 1 trillion is invested in infrastructure.

Just to match it the US would have to invest say 10 trillion and China would need say 20 trillion.

(IE, Chinese investment might look good on paper but per capita its not all that high)

China is not investing in its future...if it cared about how the land is going to be in 20 years it would be throwing up planning laws to protect the land.

Edited September 25, 2010 by Sousuke

[Heracles 417]

What if the U.S. pulls it's backing of AUS? How cool would you guys look then?

Less than 6% of AUS trade is with the US, so not much impact at all actually.

[Heracles 417]

The amount they are investing doesn't really amount to anything.

In simple terms lets say in Australia 1 trillion is invested in infrastructure.

Just to match it the US would have to invest say 10 trillion and China would need say 20 trillion.

(IE, Chinese investment might look good on paper but per capita its not all that high)

China is not investing in its future...if it cared about how the land is going to be in 20 years it would be throwing up planning laws to protect the land.

China is investing a solid $300+ billion on their 248 mph rail network, US is investing $8 billion. That is just one of many projects they are working on.

Australia is pumping $43 billion into a national wholesale 1Gbit/s FTTH broadband network. US is devoting a few billion to deliver speeds up to deliver under 10Mbit/s by 2020.

I think you can work out the per capita here on these projects alone.

Edited September 25, 2010 by Heracles

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Less than 6% of AUS trade is with the US, so not much impact at all actually.

But who would protect you against the bullies of the world? Norway? Sweden? Finland? One of those countries with a high standard of living and the people are so happy? And I'm sure China sells a lot more products in Australia too. After all, there are 20 million people there, a major part of the world's population. Keep going, you're doing a great job.

[Heracles 417]

But who would protect you against the bullies of the world? Norway? Sweden? Finland? One of those countries with a high standard of living and the people are so happy? And I'm sure China sells a lot more products in Australia too. After all, there are 20 million people there, a major part of the world's population. Keep going, you're doing a great job.

Protect from who? The rest of the world is not interested in wars, just progressing. Something clearly reflected by their pale military expenditure versus the US.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news yet again, but China's largest trade partner is not the US, it's Europe. To the Chinese, people like you owe them $800 billion.

Edited September 25, 2010 by Heracles

[웃 910]

Protect from who? The rest of the world is not interested in wars, just progressing. Something clearly reflected by their pale military expenditure versus the US.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news yet again, but China's largest trade partner is not the US, it's Europe. To the Chinese, people like you owe them $800 billion.

Trump on China in an interview from a few days ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAnGBwjwpHI

Edited September 25, 2010 by Lord Infamous

[^_^ 5,021]

The rest of the world is not interested in wars, just progressing.

Famous last words.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Protect from who? The rest of the world is not interested in wars, just progressing. Something clearly reflected by their pale military expenditure versus the US.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news yet again, but China's largest trade partner is not the US, it's Europe. To the Chinese, people like you owe them $800 billion.

Boy am I dumb! I thought that the US was a country and Europe was a continent!

[Ban Hammer 13,659]

But who would protect you against the bullies of the world? Norway? Sweden? Finland? One of those countries with a high standard of living and the people are so happy? And I'm sure China sells a lot more products in Australia too. After all, there are 20 million people there, a major part of the world's population. Keep going, you're doing a great job.

The Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty (ANZUS or ANZUS Treaty) is the military alliance which binds Australia and New Zealand and, separately, Australia and the United States to cooperate on defence matters in the Pacific Ocean area, though today the treaty is understood to relate to attacks in any area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.-Australia_alliance

[justashooter 430]

those few rocks out there in the middle of the ocean are sitting on top of a bunch of oil, hence the concern. this conflict has been going on for 10 years and more.

[slim 1,533]

Less than 6% of AUS trade is with the US, so not much impact at all actually.

Still not speaking militarily, eh? This time, I was.

China is investing a solid $300+ billion on their 248 mph rail network, US is investing $8 billion. That is just one of many projects they are working on.

Australia is pumping $43 billion into a national wholesale 1Gbit/s FTTH broadband network. US is devoting a few billion to deliver speeds up to deliver under 10Mbit/s by 2020.

I think you can work out the per capita here on these projects alone.

So we're not investing a lot of money into projects we don't need... and that's a bad thing?

We have people like you who require us to build sh!t we don't need because "everyone else is doing it" when in fact, we'd be better off letting the rest of the world "pass us by" on their way to first world status.

[Heracles 417]

So we're not investing a lot of money into projects we don't need... and that's a bad thing?

We have people like you who require us to build sh!t we don't need because "everyone else is doing it" when in fact, we'd be better off letting the rest of the world "pass us by" on their way to first world status.

Yeah, who cares to at very least take note of things others are doing better.