Is Europe tiring of its immigrants?

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true true! it's full of electrolytes, and great for kids who have been sick with tummy bugs, etc that's caused them to lose fluids and electrolytes. like an all natural gatorade. but i live in cold, rainy oregon, where i can't have a coconut grove of my own, so i have to buy it in a carton from the store. though a kid walking around with a straw stuck in a coconut, like it's a big round juice box makes for a funny picture.

Oh... coconut groves... so many surfing memories to go from the waves, to the beach, to the groves...

Reminds me of a buddy from Spain (Euskadi- and yes... I got to surf the legendary left at Mundaka!) that said the whole idea of being able to get FRESH coconut right after a wave session was just too much to handle.

In lieu of said grove... do you have a Trader Joes close to you? You may find coconuts there, or extracted water. Just check to see there's no sodium benzoate in the ingredients, since that's the liquid equivalent of MSG in junk food.

i bet FARC eats pork.

F*cking FARC. What they can eat is LEAD.

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What does it do to you?

F*cking FARC. What they can eat is LEAD.

now, now. even terrorists have feelings.

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Can we please focus on Europe? ya?

A quick google search will illustrate why Europe is becoming anti-particular-migrant.

With regards to diet, I wonder which region of the world offers the healthiest diet.

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i like curried mutton. There's a nice shop in Liverpool, around the corner from my bus stop, open late. It's verra nice.

OMG - I've dipped into the food sub-topic. EEK !!!

Heracles - Seriously - is easier for MENA ppl to 'immigrate' into Europe than it is to 'immigrate' into Australia. Not so much paperwork required to come into the border, as compared to Australia.

The 'mileage' is less, as well as the 'cost of travel' into Europe, when compared to Australia.

Can we please focus on Europe? ya?

Lots of legal and illegal immigrants in the Europe. Legal immigrants tend not to be the problem.

It always baffled me why soo many risk a hiding in a shipping container across the channel to England rather than staying in France or Germany etc.

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i like curried mutton. There's a nice shop in Liverpool, around the corner from my bus stop, open late. It's verra nice.

OMG - I've dipped into the food sub-topic. EEK !!!

Heracles - Seriously - is easier for MENA ppl to 'immigrate' into Europe than it is to 'immigrate' into Australia. Not so much paperwork required to come into the border, as compared to Australia.

The 'mileage' is less, as well as the 'cost of travel' into Europe, when compared to Australia.

Can we please focus on Europe? ya?

So you see... European cuisine is being incredibly enriched by these new additions to its already well-established traditions. Most people I know of there embrace such 'augments.'

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What does it do to you?

now, now. even terrorists have feelings.

[Tangent]Just the other day, their top military leader got himself bombed to hell where he belongs. I don't particularly support the hard-line stance, but what is worse than right wing neocons in South America are anyone willing to terrorize their own people to get power they are not entitled to. In the history of Latin America, both of these have coincided much more than for the opposite political ideology.[/Tangent]

To bring that tangent to the topic at hand, it is of note to remind ourselves that many Nazis that were not given refuge in the USA for various reasons ended up in positions of power in South America.

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Oh... coconut groves... so many surfing memories to go from the waves, to the beach, to the groves...

Reminds me of a buddy from Spain (Euskadi- and yes... I got to surf the legendary left at Mundaka!) that said the whole idea of being able to get FRESH coconut right after a wave session was just too much to handle.

In lieu of said grove... do you have a Trader Joes close to you? You may find coconuts there, or extracted water. Just check to see there's no sodium benzoate in the ingredients, since that's the liquid equivalent of MSG in junk food.

F*cking FARC. What they can eat is LEAD.

sweet! and i did not know that about sodium benzoate. i'll keep it in mind.

farc can indeed go eat lead.

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So you see... European cuisine is being incredibly enriched by these new additions to its already well-established traditions. Most people I know of there embrace such 'augments.'

Naturally, considering Chicago is just a destination of choice for so many from the first world. Apparently you have some mile, fantastic weather, great and honest leaders, it's really clean and the crime rate is just incredibly low. So I am sure you have come across a diverse range of foreigners.

Nevertheless, if you heard this, then surely it's the norm. Unlike the origin of 50% of gang bangers illustrated in reputable government stats, which is apparently just BS.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Heracles

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sweet! and i did not know that about sodium benzoate. i'll keep it in mind.

farc can indeed go eat lead.

Indeed. Here in Chicago we also do not have coconut groves (sigh)... I'd think about taking up longboarding on Lake Michigan if at least I got to see coconut trees on shore. But I have found supermarkets from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds, from Devon Ave (Indo-Pak-Jewish) to Pilsen (Mexican), Bridgeport (Irish), Mitsuwa in Arlington Heights (Japanese), etc, that carry all kinds of great foodstuffs. And here in Obamaland we have farmer's markets on a weekly basis where you can find all kinds of European and Asian produce grown locally that makes for really good recipes.

Some markets may even carry peeled coconut with water inside... I can guarantee you that will not have any weird preservatives.

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... here in Obamaland we have farmer's markets on a weekly basis where you can find all kinds of European and Asian produce grown locally that makes for really good recipes.

Nothing American in Obamaland, of course. Socialists!

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Nothing American in Obamaland, of course. Socialists!

That would make it...

EUROPEAN!!

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I'd say it's all happening in the city of Chicago but pathetic third-worldesque homicide rates do not count as action - sorry.

Perhaps this is why some people from certain countries are so attracted to this city, as it helps them reconnect with their roots. The corruption and crime rates gives them a taste of the mother country.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Heracles

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So in relation to the topic... the idea that Europe is tiring of its immigrants is frankly too polarized to feeding the anti-immigrant perspective that is ironically prevalent among some users of this family immigration site. Through diet (food) and other aspects of culture, European society has been enriched to make most of the continent a plural entity, more so beyond the historical plurality gained from the evolution of local languages and tribal settlement. All we are seeing is a further enrichment of modern human society. Nothing wrong with that- while dealing with negative aspects of such transitions (racism, xenophobia, crime, etc) as each case arises.

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So in relation to the topic... the idea that Europe is tiring of its immigrants is frankly too polarized to feeding the anti-immigrant perspective that is ironically prevalent among some users of this family immigration site. Through diet (food) and other aspects of culture, European society has been enriched to make most of the continent a plural entity, more so beyond the historical plurality gained from the evolution of local languages and tribal settlement. All we are seeing is a further enrichment of modern human society. Nothing wrong with that- while dealing with negative aspects of such transitions (racism, xenophobia, crime, etc) as each case arises.

Unfortunately Europe does not run on country of migrants ideologies, they carefully monitor and gauge their immigration. It's why many have implemented Australia's highly successful points based immigration system. It's why many have enacted legislation and laws mandating new migrants that are not from other first world countries, learn the language and culture of a country before entering. It's why they do not have automatic citizenship by birth policies anymore. It's why France is considering the cancellation of citizenship for anyone for a period of up to ten years. It's why they are also enacting acceptable clothing policies in France.

Yiddish dances around reality do not change reality. Had liberals like yourself not been the butt of jokes in these countries, I'd listen to your opinion on the topic. Unfortunately, the majority of things your ilk stand for are mocked by many abroad. Evidence you ask? Find me which countries have adapted or have liberal yank equivalent policies; for example, sanctuary cities, no limits on freedom, zero religion in their government etc etc etc.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Heracles

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So in relation to the topic... the idea that Europe is tiring of its immigrants is frankly too polarized to feeding the anti-immigrant perspective that is ironically prevalent among some users of this family immigration site. Through diet (food) and other aspects of culture, European society has been enriched to make most of the continent a plural entity, more so beyond the historical plurality gained from the evolution of local languages and tribal settlement. All we are seeing is a further enrichment of modern human society. Nothing wrong with that- while dealing with negative aspects of such transitions (racism, xenophobia, crime, etc) as each case arises.

I forgot to add, that this enrichment is and has been viewed as exactly that- enriching. The more extremist, bigoted perspectives will always find a way to confuse that with an immigrant takeover of local governance.