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50% of Christian College students no longer "born again Christians" after graduation

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Jenn! Grand Master

Jenn!   918

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That is, of course, a possibility. However, I do believe that there are professors with agendas, whether they be "liberal" or "conservative".

I think it would be very difficult to teach a course in social construction or feminism without letting your own beliefs dominate.

That's certainly true. But just because your professor tells you something, it doesn't follow that the student slavishly accept it at face value. Again its about thinking critically about the ideas you are presented with as a means to refining your own opinions. According the proclivity of the individual, they will do that (or not) to a greater or lesser degree.

After all, an indirect goal of higher education is to challenge authority figures and the status quo.

I suppose it is hard as usual to distinguish cause and effect. Are the types of students who enroll in such courses more easily persuaded? And I found Fischkoepfin's statemnet earlier about extremism in Women's Stuies program interesting as well.

Well I suspect most people going into a course will already have a bias towards certain issues before they even enroll in the course.

That point is of course lost on the author of the article at the start of the thread.

Yes, I was just going to say that the fact that people tend to choose classes according to their pre-existing biases contradicts much of what is said in this article.

almaty Grand Master

almaty   19

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

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damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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Mirorgate Experienced

Mirorgate   0

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

James & Sara - Aug 12, 05

Humanity... destined to pass the baton shortly.

ceriserose Proficient

ceriserose   1

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

Thank you both, now I am compelled to watch that movie this weekend.

I'm so swayed by suggestion sometimes. :lol:

Electricity is really just organized lightning.

Mirorgate Experienced

Mirorgate   0

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

Thank you both, now I am compelled to watch that movie this weekend.

I'm so swayed by suggestion sometimes. :lol:

"All to easy"

:D

James & Sara - Aug 12, 05

Humanity... destined to pass the baton shortly.

ceriserose Proficient

ceriserose   1

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

Thank you both, now I am compelled to watch that movie this weekend.

I'm so swayed by suggestion sometimes. :lol:

"All to easy"

:D

What can I say, I'm a spaz for Belushi movies. ;)

Electricity is really just organized lightning.

one...two...tree Grand Master

one...two...tree   2,762

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indoctrinate - teach doctrines to; teach uncritically; "The Moonies indoctrinate their disciples"

I think the purpose or opportunity of adult education (college) is that it provides the student with the intellectual skills to think critically - to question, to not take anything at face value. To someone who was raised to merely accept things because 'it says so', that can come across as relativism or human secularism - where there are no absolute truths.

almaty Grand Master

almaty   19

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

Thank you both, now I am compelled to watch that movie this weekend.

I'm so swayed by suggestion sometimes. :lol:

"All to easy"

:D

What can I say, I'm a spaz for Belushi movies. ;)

it is a great film..one of my favorites...i can identify with a character or two there,.,, :whistle:

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

Peppi_drinking_beer.jpg

my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&id=10835

AnaAndDaniel Experienced

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per the movie: animal house..." knowledge is good"

And by implication, more knowledge is gooder.

:yes:

:lol:

\

damn straight sister cecrise...it is on the statue of Faber..the college founder...

/sniff/ I miss Belushi

TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!

Thank you both, now I am compelled to watch that movie this weekend.

I'm so swayed by suggestion sometimes. :lol:

"All to easy"

:D

What can I say, I'm a spaz for Belushi movies. ;)

it is a great film..one of my favorites...i can identify with a character or two there,.,, :whistle:

i lean towards the revenge of the nerd series. :jest:

i've stopped trying to understand how 'conservatives' come to a conclusion that universities are factories to what is evil in America.

I rest assured knowing plenty of really smart conservatives know better.

Daniel

:energetic:

Edited by AnaAndDaniel

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

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AnaAndDaniel Experienced

AnaAndDaniel   0

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I rest assured knowing plenty of really smart conservatives know better.

Daniel

:energetic:

awww... shucks.. you flatter me :blush::blush::blush:

what? :blink: no comment about my choice of revenge of the nerds? :diablo:

hahaha

yeah, you are cool bro espejo.

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

Mirorgate Experienced

Mirorgate   0

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what? :blink: no comment about my choice of revenge of the nerds? :diablo:

hahaha

yeah, you are cool bro espejo.

Daniel

:energetic:

actually.. the first 1 maybe 2 were good... after that... i mean really... its like police academy all over again... and rocky... and jaws...

muchas gracias mi amigo! como esta la espose? trabajando ahora?

James & Sara - Aug 12, 05

Humanity... destined to pass the baton shortly.

AnaAndDaniel Experienced

AnaAndDaniel   0

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what? :blink: no comment about my choice of revenge of the nerds? :diablo:

hahaha

yeah, you are cool bro espejo.

Daniel

:energetic:

actually.. the first 1 maybe 2 were good... after that... i mean really... its like police academy all over again... and rocky... and jaws...

muchas gracias mi amigo! como esta la espose? trabajando ahora?

yo si estoy trabajando. mucho trabajo ultimamente. mi esposa se queda en casa. :D

gracias.

que tal con ustedes?

Daniel

:energetic:

Edited by AnaAndDaniel

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

 

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