Interview in october

[RandM 0]

Hi vjers, my question is, my interview will be this october and me and my husband is required to go. The problem is nobody will take care of our 7 month old baby. We cant afford to get a nanny coz we both have no job. Can our son go with us? And also weve been married for a yr prior the petition. Will i still receive conditional gc? Thanks

[mrsean 4]

Hi vjers, my question is, my interview will be this october and me and my husband is required to go. The problem is nobody will take care of our 7 month old baby. We cant afford to get a nanny coz we both have no job. Can our son go with us? And also weve been married for a yr prior the petition. Will i still receive conditional gc? Thanks

absolutely you can take child!!!you have no choice and the baby is proof!!!

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

absolutely you can take child!!!you have no choice and the baby is proof!!!

Proof of what? In the eyes of USCIS, having a child together may be considered evidence, but it doesn't prove anything other than your reproductive organs are working. Telling people that it's "proof" helps to spread the misconception that having a baby will clinch a visa or green card. It's not true. If it were that simple then everyone would do it.

RandM, you should be able to bring the baby to the interview. I saw a couple at the field office in San Francisco who brought their young children with them.

If you've been married less than two years at the time the AOS is approved then you'll receive a conditional green card.

[mrsean 4]

Proof of what? In the eyes of USCIS, having a child together may be considered evidence, but it doesn't prove anything other than your reproductive organs are working. Telling people that it's "proof" helps to spread the misconception that having a baby will clinch a visa or green card. It's not true. If it were that simple then everyone would do it.

RandM, you should be able to bring the baby to the interview. I saw a couple at the field office in San Francisco who brought their young children with them.

If you've been married less than two years at the time the AOS is approved then you'll receive a conditional green card.

it is proof that your in a relationship and have a child together!!!!!!!!!!!!! what do you know about the [in the eyes of uscis]not everyone would have baby!!!!!!!!!!!! wacko!!!!!!!!!!! you can bring baby to interview no problem

[mathranik 2]

Proof of what? In the eyes of USCIS, having a child together may be considered evidence, but it doesn't prove anything other than your reproductive organs are working. Telling people that it's "proof" helps to spread the misconception that having a baby will clinch a visa or green card. It's not true. If it were that simple then everyone would do it.

RandM, you should be able to bring the baby to the interview. I saw a couple at the field office in San Francisco who brought their young children with them.

If you've been married less than two years at the time the AOS is approved then you'll receive a conditional green card.

Evidence is a synonym for Proof, and the dictionary confirms it! It doesn't translate to spreading the misconception that the ticket to immigration is a child, No - but it definitely substantiates your case, and there is no denying it.

To OP - I don't think taking the baby along would cause any sort of problem. No matter how strict an I/O be, he/she is still a human!

[amykathleen2005 441]

Evidence is a synonym for Proof, and the dictionary confirms it! It doesn't translate to spreading the misconception that the ticket to immigration is a child, No - but it definitely substantiates your case, and there is no denying it.

To OP - I don't think taking the baby along would cause any sort of problem. No matter how strict an I/O be, he/she is still a human!

Tell that to the people who come on here every day asking if because they are pregnant that they can expedite their visa or case or if they can get a green card.

[mathranik 2]

Tell that to the people who come on here every day asking if because they are pregnant that they can expedite their visa or case or if they can get a green card.

I think what you said is Off-Topic. Let's stick to the original query,please?

Thank you!

[Mrs Green 6]

All the best to u!!!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

it is proof that your in a relationship and have a child together!!!!!!!!!!!!! what do you know about the [in the eyes of uscis]not everyone would have baby!!!!!!!!!!!! wacko!!!!!!!!!!! you can bring baby to interview no problem

OP this is off topic to your question, but important to address --

It is NOT proof of their relationship, it's proof they had sex and had a child. Whether you like it or not, unfortunately it DOES happen that people have a child to further their immigration, there was actually a man on VJ who's wife did it to him, and he found proof it was all for her GC, and for child support etc so she could get money out of him (I think it was twins actually.. could be wrong).

It is important, like Jim said, to make sure we point out that it's NOT proof of a relationship and USCIS might ask for a birth cert but they won't look at the child and this "okay, no need for an interview, they're definitely a couple because they procreated". I know many thousands of people who had kids with people that they don't even like. That a "one-night-stand" turned into a lifelong commitment. It is wrong of you to tell people having a kid proves their relationship, it doesn't. And before you ask ME where I think I get off saying I know this, someone posted a while ago a checklist for what proves a relationship, and what are red-flags & from memory "have they had a child" wasn't a proof of relationship thing (I'll keep searching for the document, it was a while ago).

OP back to your question, take your child There is nothing wrong with having a baby there. Be sure to take their birth cert though because they MIGHT ask to see it. Good luck with your interview

Edited September 19, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[mrsean 4]

OP this is off topic to your question, but important to address --

It is NOT proof of their relationship, it's proof they had sex and had a child. Whether you like it or not, unfortunately it DOES happen that people have a child to further their immigration, there was actually a man on VJ who's wife did it to him, and he found proof it was all for her GC, and for child support etc so she could get money out of him (I think it was twins actually.. could be wrong).

It is important, like Jim said, to make sure we point out that it's NOT proof of a relationship and USCIS might ask for a birth cert but they won't look at the child and this "okay, no need for an interview, they're definitely a couple because they procreated". I know many thousands of people who had kids with people that they don't even like. That a "one-night-stand" turned into a lifelong commitment. It is wrong of you to tell people having a kid proves their relationship, it doesn't. And before you ask ME where I think I get off saying I know this, someone posted a while ago a checklist for what proves a relationship, and what are red-flags & from memory "have they had a child" wasn't a proof of relationship thing (I'll keep searching for the document, it was a while ago).

OP back to your question, take your child There is nothing wrong with having a baby there. Be sure to take their birth cert though because they MIGHT ask to see it. Good luck with your interview

it is proof that there in a relationship!!!!!and have a child and are together !!!!!!!!!let it go i am right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wow one man on vj had it done to him for a green card!!come on!!!!!!

[RandM 0]

Thanks and peace evryone!!

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Evidence is a synonym for Proof, and the dictionary confirms it! It doesn't translate to spreading the misconception that the ticket to immigration is a child, No - but it definitely substantiates your case, and there is no denying it.

One piece of evidence is rarely proof.

Evidence is a factor to be considered when determining the truth. Generally, an assertion is proven to be true when the sum total weight of the evidence in favor of the assertion exceeds the weight of the evidence against the assertion by some threshold. Having a child is one piece of evidence that a couple has a bona fide relationship. If the couple doesn't have sufficient evidence that they live as a married couple then having a child would not be sufficient positive evidence to overcome the negative evidence, and they would be denied.

The misconception that having a baby is proof positive of a bona fide relationship is widespread in some countries. My wife was told by many of her friends in Vietnam that she would not get a visa if we didn't have a child together, and that they couldn't deny her visa if we did. The truth is that the consulate doesn't care if you have a child. Like I said, if it was as easy as getting pregnant than everyone would do it. I personally know one young man whose child in Vietnam is starting kindergarten this year while his wife is on her third try for a visa.

it is proof that there in a relationship!!!!!and have a child and are together !!!!!!!!!let it go i am right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wow one man on vj had it done to him for a green card!!come on!!!!!!

Not to beat a dead horse, but it is not proof of anything. Someone who was playing their US citizen spouse to get a green card would happily make a baby if they thought that would clinch things for them. The marriage will ultimately end in divorce once the immigrant gets their green card or is denied a green card. It's tragic enough when these things happen, but it's even more tragic when unwanted children are produced because someone thought it would clinch a green card. The only right reason to have a baby is because you want a baby, and not because you want to pass a green card interview.

The Field Adjudicators Manual allows an immigration officer to consider if a couple have had children, but they aren't required to give it any more weight than any other evidence they provide. The misconception you spread by this sort of misinformation is that having a child together is all that's required to satisfy USCIS or a US consulate abroad that there is a bona fide relationship. There are countless people who have had a child together and still been denied a visa or green card. Furthermore, it's not necessary to bring an infant to the interview in order to prove to the IO that you have a child. A copy of the birth certificate is sufficient.

[mrsean 4]

One piece of evidence is rarely proof.

Evidence is a factor to be considered when determining the truth. Generally, an assertion is proven to be true when the sum total weight of the evidence in favor of the assertion exceeds the weight of the evidence against the assertion by some threshold. Having a child is one piece of evidence that a couple has a bona fide relationship. If the couple doesn't have sufficient evidence that they live as a married couple then having a child would not be sufficient positive evidence to overcome the negative evidence, and they would be denied.

The misconception that having a baby is proof positive of a bona fide relationship is widespread in some countries. My wife was told by many of her friends in Vietnam that she would not get a visa if we didn't have a child together, and that they couldn't deny her visa if we did. The truth is that the consulate doesn't care if you have a child. Like I said, if it was as easy as getting pregnant than everyone would do it. I personally know one young man whose child in Vietnam is starting kindergarten this year while his wife is on her third try for a visa.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it is not proof of anything. Someone who was playing their US citizen spouse to get a green card would happily make a baby if they thought that would clinch things for them. The marriage will ultimately end in divorce once the immigrant gets their green card or is denied a green card. It's tragic enough when these things happen, but it's even more tragic when unwanted children are produced because someone thought it would clinch a green card. The only right reason to have a baby is because you want a baby, and not because you want to pass a green card interview.

The Field Adjudicators Manual allows an immigration officer to consider if a couple have had children, but they aren't required to give it any more weight than any other evidence they provide. The misconception you spread by this sort of misinformation is that having a child together is all that's required to satisfy USCIS or a US consulate abroad that there is a bona fide relationship. There are countless people who have had a child together and still been denied a visa or green card. Furthermore, it's not necessary to bring an infant to the interview in order to prove to the IO that you have a child. A copy of the birth certificate is sufficient.

still proof and evidence no matter what you say!!! by law and in english!!!

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

still proof and evidence no matter what you say!!! by law and in english!!!

It doesn't matter what I say. It matters what is true. Your wanting desperately to believe it's true does not make it so. Your suggesting to other people that it's true is bad advice. If someone listens to your advice, and decides that all they need to do to overcome the red flags in their case is to churn out a baby, then they will receive a rude awakening at their interview. Of all the evidence the IO would like to see, having a baby is one piece of evidence that a couple can manufacture without anyone elses help. The IO is acutely aware of this. Evidence that requires the assistance of an unbiased third party is given much more weight by an IO.

Since you claim the law backs you up in this, show me the immigration law that says having a baby is either proof or evidence, to be given more weight than a joint bank account, for example. If you can do that then I'll concede I was wrong, and will start advising everyone to have babies.

I think the problem here is that you come from a cultural background that makes it difficult for you to believe that a couple would have a child together and NOT have a legitimate relationship. I can assure you that it happens - a LOT.

[mrsean 4]

It doesn't matter what I say. It matters what is true. Your wanting desperately to believe it's true does not make it so. Your suggesting to other people that it's true is bad advice. If someone listens to your advice, and decides that all they need to do to overcome the red flags in their case is to churn out a baby, then they will receive a rude awakening at their interview. Of all the evidence the IO would like to see, having a baby is one piece of evidence that a couple can manufacture without anyone elses help. The IO is acutely aware of this. Evidence that requires the assistance of an unbiased third party is given much more weight by an IO.

Since you claim the law backs you up in this, show me the immigration law that says having a baby is either proof or evidence, to be given more weight than a joint bank account, for example. If you can do that then I'll concede I was wrong, and will start advising everyone to have babies.

I think the problem here is that you come from a cultural background that makes it difficult for you to believe that a couple would have a child together and NOT have a legitimate relationship. I can assure you that it happens - a LOT.