Another fatwa on a cartoonist

[evli1966 88]

How is singling out Muslim VJers to answer for the actions of extremist nutjobs in any way "legitimate"?

Your biased views of someone prevents you from understanding he actually asked a question and requested a response from them with out harboring any prejudgment to their answeres.

It is their decision fro them to answer or not.

It does not matter whether or not I or anyone else agrees with their answer if they choose to answer.

I have not seen anyone belittle their answers they gave voluntarily.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

How is singling out Muslim VJers to answer for the actions of extremist nutjobs in any way "legitimate"?

My question may have been badly worded but the reality is you and Cleo seem bound and determined to make yourselves irrelevant to any discourse regarding Islamic Extremism.

I expect you two to keep on fact free trucking, and aspersion casting, and at least in that you two never disappoint.

[Peikko 1,575]

My question may have been badly worded but the reality is you and Cleo seem bound and determined to make yourselves irrelevant to any discourse regarding Islamic Extremism.

I expect you two to keep on fact free trucking, and aspersion casting, and at least in that you two never disappoint.

In contrast to this 'fact filled' post right? How long are you going to keep up this ridiculous attempt to discredit perfectly legitimate posts in these threads just because you don't like the people that post them?

[Peikko 1,575]

Mind you, if hating on me allows you to back track a little on your anti-islamic position, it's all good as far as I am concerned; hate away

[Darnell 8,478]

The essential question is, should anyone be driven to hiding in order to avoid possible execution without trial because of an essentially political comment?

I disagree, that 'this' is the essential question - and posit to you, instead - that the 'essential question' should really be -

Since a fatwa was issued prior on a cartoonist showing a face, why would she expect that she'd NOT have a fatwa issued on HER?

The pressure was large enough that the krewe putting out South Park actually went to air WITH edits. The fact that there were edits in it, was published prior to first-broadcast.

Sorry, we're gonna disagree much, on this.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your biased views of someone prevents you from understanding he actually asked a question and requested a response from them with out harboring any prejudgment to their answeres.

It is their decision fro them to answer or not.

It does not matter whether or not I or anyone else agrees with their answer if they choose to answer.

I have not seen anyone belittle their answers they gave voluntarily.

The question implies that Muslim vjers have some sort of responsibility for those who carry out terrorist acts. They don't.

It's the same old "where is the outrage" garbage. The fact is, there is outrage, but noone should feel obligated to provide some just to pander to the whims of bigoted individuals. Where does he get off asking questions like that?

Edited September 19, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

My question may have been badly worded but the reality is you and Cleo seem bound and determined to make yourselves irrelevant to any discourse regarding Islamic Extremism.

I expect you two to keep on fact free trucking, and aspersion casting, and at least in that you two never disappoint.

I see the relevance of justifying propaganda and asking insulting questions. Oh yes, very relevant.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The question implies that Muslim vjers have some sort of responsibility for those who carry out terrorist acts. They don't.

It's the same old "where is the outrage" garbage. The fact is, there is outrage, but noone should feel obligated to provide some just to pander to the whims of bigoted individuals. Where does he get off asking questions like that?

Another bigot shot... Oh my...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Another bigot shot... Oh my...

It's funny how calling you what you are has now become a cliche to you.

[Peikko 1,575]

I disagree, that 'this' is the essential question - and posit to you, instead - that the 'essential question' should really be -

Since a fatwa was issued prior on a cartoonist showing a face, why would she expect that she'd NOT have a fatwa issued on HER?

The pressure was large enough that the krewe putting out South Park actually went to air WITH edits. The fact that there were edits in it, was published prior to first-broadcast.

Sorry, we're gonna disagree much, on this.

Possibly, it depends what you are actually saying. The way you worded it, that she is 'due' all that has happened to her I have taken to mean that she deserves to be persecuted for making a political statement, if that is so, then yes I profoundly disagree. If on the other hand you are saying she could have anticipated the possibility, that is different. Anticipating a bad reaction is not necessarily stupidity either. I do not consider for example Salman Rushdie stupid for writing and publishing The Satanic Verses, and I am sure he must have had an idea that that might have been the outcome. The fact is that the intent of these actions is not to degrade or demean the religion, but to highlight human frailty - something we all have in common. I happen to agree with TwoOwls on this one though that she was inept with her choice of action.

[evli1966 88]

The question implies that Muslim vjers have some sort of responsibility for those who carry out terrorist acts. They don't.

It's the same old "where is the outrage" garbage. The fact is, there is outrage, but noone should feel obligated to provide some just to pander to the whims of bigoted individuals. Where does he get off asking questions like that?

The Muslim Vjers do not have any responsibility to you me or anyone else for any actions by anyone.

Knowing that there are decent people on VJ who happen to be of the Islamic faith allowed him a venue in which to poll a response from them if they so wished to answer the question polled.

Simply calling him a Bigot or anyone else is in fact if you wish report it a TOS violation on your part. I do not wish to report it because I think you are responding for what ever reason emotionally charged and not thinking clearly in most of your posts when callin gpeople bigots.

I myself have the same question as in if there is such a large outcry of these acts where is the proof not the media(you explain that as media biased no matter what source) not the internet ( why not they have access as much and there are billions of them that are supposedly outraged)

Possibly, it depends what you are actually saying. The way you worded it, that she is 'due' all that has happened to her I have taken to mean that she deserves to be persecuted for making a political statement, if that is so, then yes I profoundly disagree. If on the other hand you are saying she could have anticipated the possibility, that is different. Anticipating a bad reaction is not necessarily stupidity either. I do not consider for example Salman Rushdie stupid for writing and publishing The Satanic Verses, and I am sure he must have had an idea that that might have been the outcome. The fact is that the intent of these actions is not to degrade or demean the religion, but to highlight human frailty - something we all have in common. I happen to agree with TwoOwls on this one though that she was inept with her choice of action.

Cleo great explaination of your position. +1 on the post for a clear depiction of your position.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

It's funny how calling you what you are has now become a cliche to you.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Another attempt by the so called "religion of peace" to quell freedom of speech.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Another attempt by the so called "religion of peace" to quell freedom of speech.

Another stupid conclusion.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

It's funny how calling you what you are has now become a cliche to you.

Whipped out the dictionary and found cliche... Almost a new twist on your old theme...