The eternal flame of Muslim outrage

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I don't condone any killings...but you shouldn't be surprised that when troops cross over into the territory of another that considers them the enemy (the same troops that had occupied the area years earlier) they are held prisoner or even killed....what is so surprising about that? As for the Israelis not understanding ME politics I don't believe they have an accurate grasp on things or they are in denial. Also we are not blaming others for what happens in the region, but we simply want them to keep their noses out of our affairs. As for the PLO I never said anything about them....did I say they were good for the Lebanese people or even say one word about them....no I think not.

Lebanon can't control Hezbollah's terrorist activities, just like they could not control the PLO's terrorist activities before Israel cleaned them out of Lebanon. The Lebanese are hostages in their own country due to the Syrian and Iranian backed terrorist that reside in Lebanon.

Now if you would like to start posting link for link with me dating back from 1982 in regards to Lebanon...let's go for it. Nobody here was born yesterday.

[evli1966 88]

I don't condone any killings...but you shouldn't be surprised that when troops cross over into the territory of another that considers them the enemy (the same troops that had occupied the area years earlier) they are held prisoner or even killed....what is so surprising about that? As for the Israelis not understanding ME politics I don't believe they have an accurate grasp on things or they are in denial. Also we are not blaming others for what happens in the region, but we simply want them to keep their noses out of our affairs. As for the PLO I never said anything about them....did I say they were good for the Lebanese people or even say one word about them....no I think not.

Actually I do not believe they should have been killed nor should a lebanese soldier.; taken prisoner yes. That is world politics.

As for the Isrealis not understanding ME politics you are biased in your views and con not accept that fact and are in denial yourself.

When acts of terror are done in the name of your religeon do not expect people to stand by.

The PLO was invited in by the Lebanese government of the time.

It was in 1978 when the Isrealis had enough of the terrorist attacks of the PLO that caused the rather small invasion of the Isrealis. So back to your point of killing enemy soldiers crossing the border ...you shouldnt be surprised at an attack from the Isrealis after almost a decade of terrorist attacks.

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

Lebanon can't control Hezbollah's terrorist activities, just like they could not control the PLO's terrorist activities before Israel cleaned them out of Lebanon. The Lebanese are hostages in their own country due to the Syrian and Iranian backed terrorist that reside in Lebanon.

Now if you would like to start posting link for link with me dating back from 1982 in regards to Lebanon...let's go for it. Nobody here was born yesterday.

Like I said in the other post....I never said anything about the PLO. Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the Lebanese government, they are not a terrorist group.....but I don't expect you to understand anything that goes on in Lebanon or any other middle eastern country...you have Fox for that. The Lebanese are not hostages in their own country what a joke....there is religious freedom, freedom to come and go as the Lebanese people please, freedom and speech, and freedom of dress (you can see women in mini skirts next to a woman in abaya...it's a common site). Now I still would like to know why is it a surprise to people that Israeli soldiers were captured when they were on Lebanese territory. Israel needs to stay out of Lebanon plain and simple, but they can't do that....they are daily incursions across the border and even black helicopters and jets invading Lebanese airspace....then Israel denies even doing it and of course it never makes it in the news. If God jumped from the sky and said Israel did this they would still deny it and you along with most people would believe them. As for the links on the internet, this is not where I get my information, I get my information from actually living there, growing up there, and experiencing things first hand.

[adams.michelle 5]

Like I said in the other post....I never said anything about the PLO. Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the Lebanese government, they are not a terrorist group.....but I don't expect you to understand anything that goes on in Lebanon or any other middle eastern country...you have Fox for that. The Lebanese are not hostages in their own country what a joke....there is religious freedom, freedom to come and go as the Lebanese people please, freedom and speech, and freedom of dress (you can see women in mini skirts next to a woman in abaya...it's a common site). Now I still would like to know why is it a surprise to people that Israeli soldiers were captured when they were on Lebanese territory. Israel needs to stay out of Lebanon plain and simple, but they can't do that....they are daily incursions across the border and even black helicopters and jets invading Lebanese airspace....then Israel denies even doing it and of course it never makes it in the news. If God jumped from the sky and said Israel did this they would still deny it and you along with most people would believe them. As for the links on the internet, this is not where I get my information, I get my information from actually living there, growing up there, and experiencing things first hand.

United we Stand; Divied we Fall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDm3gmkxk2I&feature=related

Love and Light, Michelle

United we Stand; Divided we Fall.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDm3gmkxk2I&feature=related

Love and Light, Michelle

Edited September 18, 2010 by adams.michelle

[evli1966 88]

Like I said in the other post....I never said anything about the PLO. Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the Lebanese government, they are not a terrorist group.....but I don't expect you to understand anything that goes on in Lebanon or any other middle eastern country...you have Fox for that. The Lebanese are not hostages in their own country what a joke....there is religious freedom, freedom to come and go as the Lebanese people please, freedom and speech, and freedom of dress (you can see women in mini skirts next to a woman in abaya...it's a common site). Now I still would like to know why is it a surprise to people that Israeli soldiers were captured when they were on Lebanese territory. Israel needs to stay out of Lebanon plain and simple, but they can't do that....they are daily incursions across the border and even black helicopters and jets invading Lebanese airspace....then Israel denies even doing it and of course it never makes it in the news. If God jumped from the sky and said Israel did this they would still deny it and you along with most people would believe them. As for the links on the internet, this is not where I get my information, I get my information from actually living there, growing up there, and experiencing things first hand.

You have a very shallow view of the world and its people and prove it by making the same asumptions of anyone that disagrees with you using the same tired arguemnt over and over that you are the self proclaimed scholar on all middle east politics and Lebanon.

I will bow to your vast superior knowledge of your homeland and politics.

You still avoid all questions i nregards to the politics and islam there answering nothing with no factual prove other than "I was there"

If it is such a great country why on heaven are you here or trying to come to the USA?( this is a friendly question the same I ask of BY when he spouts on about Aus)

Edited September 18, 2010 by evli1966

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

You have a very shallow view of the world and its people and prove it by making the same asumptions of anyone that disagrees with you using the same tired arguemnt over and over that you are the self proclaimed scholar on all middle east politics and Lebanon.

I will bow to your vast superior knowledge of your homeland and politics.

You still avoid all questions i nregards to the politics and islam there answering nothing with no factual prove other than "I was there"

If it is such a great country why on heaven are you here or trying to come to the USA?( this is a friendly question the same I ask of BY when he spouts on about Aus)

Nice sarcastic tone from you, and I never said I was an expert at middle eastern politics....but people on here continually argue with others who have seen and lived through it and tell them they are wrong. As for me being in the USA I am here at the request of my wife, she wanted to be near her family.

[evli1966 88]

Nice sarcastic tone from you, and I never said I was an expert at middle eastern politics....but people on here continually argue with others who have seen and lived through it and tell them they are wrong. As for me being in the USA I am here at the request of my wife, she wanted to be near her family.

sorry for the sarcasm.

I try to post on factual events garnered through history and other sources.

I watch as much Fox as I do any other news media which is not much.

But truth is found when you recieve information from multiple sources of varing opinions.

[Bibi and Beebti 4]

You should have started and stopped right there. When someone cannot refute facts, they resort to a post like yours. So what you saying is that you are cooked and you have nothing to come back with in reference to a debate.

You lose.

DAMN ‘Why_Me’ you got me man ! you win...I lose !! Game over, let’s start a new one...

But maybe after I spend my weekend more productively. you should consider doing the same.

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

sorry for the sarcasm.

I try to post on factual events garnered through history and other sources.

I watch as much Fox as I do any other news media which is not much.

But truth is found when you recieve information from multiple sources of varing opinions.

No problem, we all get sarcastic at times, especially in a forum about religion and politics.

As for you receiving the truth from multiple sources and varying opinions might I make a suggestion? It is up to you if you are interested or not. But if you are sincerely interested in ME politics and history make a trip there and ask people from different neighborhoods, religions, and countries about the past, their opinions, and their experiences.....I promise they won't bite. Since for most people finances wouldn't allow such a trip try to visit a few predominately middle eastern neighborhoods (speak with christians, muslims, and make sure they are not all from the same country) and get your information from the people there. While history books and the internet are also great sources for information they are not always accurate and seldom do they show the full picture.

[evli1966 88]

No problem, we all get sarcastic at times, especially in a forum about religion and politics.

As for you receiving the truth from multiple sources and varying opinions might I make a suggestion? It is up to you if you are interested or not. But if you are sincerely interested in ME politics and history make a trip there and ask people from different neighborhoods, religions, and countries about the past, their opinions, and their experiences.....I promise they won't bite. Since for most people finances wouldn't allow such a trip try to visit a few predominately middle eastern neighborhoods (speak with christians, muslims, and make sure they are not all from the same country) and get your information from the people there. While history books and the internet are also great sources for information they are not always accurate and seldom do they show the full picture.

You mean like these life long friends of 20 + years and yes we have discussed , argued and debated these topics amongst ourselves since the 90's

for obvious reasons I left out last names and current places they live by the way all immigrated here and the youngest is in their 40's as well.

These are my sources as well.

Fawzi Lebanon

Syed india

Mehrdad Afganistan

Sonya & Shital India

Arash Iran

Ender and Yule Turkey