Guilty until proven innocent...

[Dean iWait 0]

I said the CO is instructed not to readjudicate the case.

Here is a lawyer's interpretation of the cable and the link to the actual cable; I will let you draw your own conclusion.

Petitions are not 'the case'.

http://www.murthy.com/news/ukdosapp.html

The cable notes that consulates should not readjudicate petitions that have been approved by INS, since the approval of the petition leads to a presumption in favor of eligibility for the visa.

(seems that is holding true based on your statement here)

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1415.html

SUBJECT: GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS

Aren't you getting down to simple semantics and terminology on this? Like whether I should have used the word petition instead of case? Give me a break already! I mean you understood my post right? Maybe we can start a english grammar thread in Off Topic.

Here is some good info from our own Ellis-Island. Who is also an immigration attorney.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6769

[Yodrak 7]

Dean iWait,

Terminology is important in immigration (and in other matters of the law, where the law often defines terms to have meanings that can be quite different from their dictionary or steet meanings. Using the wrong word on immigration issues can totally change the meaning of something in important ways.

If you'd said that you meant only the petition in your post I would not have challenged you about it.

Yodrak

I said the CO is instructed not to readjudicate the case.

Here is a lawyer's interpretation of the cable and the link to the actual cable; I will let you draw your own conclusion.

Petitions are not 'the case'.

http://www.murthy.com/news/ukdosapp.html

The cable notes that consulates should not readjudicate petitions that have been approved by INS, since the approval of the petition leads to a presumption in favor of eligibility for the visa.

(seems that is holding true based on your statement here)

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1415.html

SUBJECT: GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS

Aren't you getting down to simple semantics and terminology on this? Like whether I should have used the word petition instead of case? Give me a break already! I mean you understood my post right? Maybe we can start a english grammar thread in Off Topic.

Here is some good info from our own Ellis-Island. Who is also an immigration attorney.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6769

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Yodrak - OUTRAGEOUS! Anyway, thanks for the GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS link.

[Dean iWait 0]

Yodrak - OUTRAGEOUS! Anyway, thanks for the GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS link.

Damn it Uling that is my link! Could I get credit for even one small contribution?

[ceriserose 1]

Yodrak - OUTRAGEOUS! Anyway, thanks for the GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS link.

Damn it Uling that is my link! Could I get credit for even one small contribution?

No. No credit for you. Come back one year.

[meauxna 15]

Yodrak - OUTRAGEOUS! Anyway, thanks for the GUIDANCE ON PETITION REVOCATIONS link.

Damn it Uling that is my link! Could I get credit for even one small contribution?

No. No credit for you. Come back one year.

Is it even worth pointing out that it was my link.....

I can't even remember what I still have to respond to in this thread.

Oh yeah, 'case' does not equal 'petition' and that wasn't clear from Dean's post.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Dean iWait - Oppps!!!! Thanks a bunch for the link. It was a great read.

Yodrak - You are still outrageous, but I've got love for you.

[babybunny 2]

edit: go me! timing is all well! I just saw your reply. It's all good. Maybe just remember that I have no idea who you and vartan are and joking around can be misconstrued.

Heck if anyone has talked to me, most people know I am just a silly clown. That wants to eat freedom fries.

Vartan,

what are freedom fries? are those fries you eat with gravy

[ceriserose 1]

edit: go me! timing is all well! I just saw your reply. It's all good. Maybe just remember that I have no idea who you and vartan are and joking around can be misconstrued.

Heck if anyone has talked to me, most people know I am just a silly clown. That wants to eat freedom fries.

Vartan,

what are freedom fries? are those fries you eat with gravy

When France wouldn't back the US' plan to invade Iraq (or liberate Iraq depending on who you talk to!), GWBush declared that "French" fries should be known as "Freedom" fries instead. It was a 'thumb your nose at the French' tactic.

edit: and before the "don't bash Bush" people show up, I don't know who exactly 'declared' it but it was from the White House. Feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

Edited August 19, 2006 by ceriserose

[simple_male 1]

edit: go me! timing is all well! I just saw your reply. It's all good. Maybe just remember that I have no idea who you and vartan are and joking around can be misconstrued.

Heck if anyone has talked to me, most people know I am just a silly clown. That wants to eat freedom fries.

Vartan,

what are freedom fries? are those fries you eat with gravy

When France wouldn't back the US' plan to invade Iraq (or liberate Iraq depending on who you talk to!), GWBush declared that "French" fries should be known as "Freedom" fries instead. It was a 'thumb your nose at the French' tactic.

edit: and before the "don't bash Bush" people show up, I don't know who exactly 'declared' it but it was from the White House. Feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

Neither President nor anyone from the White House re-named the french fries as freedom fries. It was Republican Congressmen Bob Ney and Walter Jones who led the effort to re-name the french fries as freedom fries at the House Cafeterias at the Capitol Building which they succeeded as a patriotic protest for the France Government's vehement oppostion of the Iraq war in 2003. The latest update is, they re-named the freedom fries as french fries at the House cafeterias which hardly got any media coverage. So it is french fries again.

Edited August 19, 2006 by simple_male

[babybunny 2]

edit: go me! timing is all well! I just saw your reply. It's all good. Maybe just remember that I have no idea who you and vartan are and joking around can be misconstrued.

Heck if anyone has talked to me, most people know I am just a silly clown. That wants to eat freedom fries.

Vartan,

what are freedom fries? are those fries you eat with gravy

When France wouldn't back the US' plan to invade Iraq (or liberate Iraq depending on who you talk to!), GWBush declared that "French" fries should be known as "Freedom" fries instead. It was a 'thumb your nose at the French' tactic.

edit: and before the "don't bash Bush" people show up, I don't know who exactly 'declared' it but it was from the White House. Feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

Thank you..

[vartan 0]

Thank you..

Sorry .. I woulda answered but I didn't think this thread was still alive.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

vartan - It's only alive because we all love a little drama. LOL!

[vartan 0]

so we have

1 Freedom Fries

2 Freedom Kiss

3 Freedom's Mustard

4 Freedom Tickler

5 Freedom Onion Soup

6 Luke Freedom (I knew a guy named Luke French)

7 Freedom Revolution

8 King of Freedom (King of France.. ahahah.. ok )

[ceriserose 1]

vartan - It's only alive because we all love a little drama. LOL!

When you've been here longer, you'll know this is -nothing- for drama.

Thanks for the additional info on the freedom fries, simple_male! I appreciate you correcting me. I confess that all I truly remembered about it was that it was something with the White House cafeteria and GW Bush's name got thrown in, in the article I'd read. I was still living in Canada at the time, so it was peripheral to my world.