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Pleeeease, someone drew a cartoon and they nearly burned a city down because of it. Sure it was their own city but hey, not exactly renowned for thought, just 'wars, atrocities and genocide'.

The Ottoman Empire used to churn people into human ground beef [while alive] or burn them alive to renounce Jesus, but hey that's nothing in comparison to this fool burning a Quran.

That's the difference with us, we can admit the wrongdoings of the past, Islam on the other hand just attempts to discredit it using other examples; like it makes it okay or something; which illustrates you have not moved on. The actions of so many over the last decade conform this.

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Why is everyone getting their panties in a twist over this? In many Muslim countries, it's usually frowned upon when someone holds a religious book other than the Quran. In some cases Bibles are confiscated and destroyed by the authorities.

The reality of all this is Muslims seem to have a superiority dilemma. They truly do believe they are the greats of all people and their religion is a shining beacon for all of man kind. Unfortunately, the sad reality is Islam has failed as both a religion and a way of life, its brought with it unfathomable amounts of poverty in almost all the nations where Muslims are a majority; wars in those they are not.

Even during the time of Muhammad, the Arabian peninsular was only made rich by looting, wars, genocide and thuggery from him and his cronies. This will only get worse unless Muslims start to wake up to themselves, like most other religions did.

kind of reminds you of how usa came about dont it? by war and forcing the christian religion on the native Indians...until we can admit to how we came about we should not throw stones at other countries or other religions......there is always two sides to very thing why do most always focus on what is different from them? our country was built on violence and war and are we forgetting about how we stoned and burned what we thought were witches?

Now its just a different witch hunt.....

sara

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kind of reminds you of how usa came about dont it? by war and forcing the christian religion on the native Indians...until we can admit to how we came about we should not throw stones at other countries or other religions......there is always two sides to very thing why do most always focus on what is different from them? our country was built on violence and war and are we forgetting about how we stoned and burned what we thought were witches?

You are thinking of the Spanish Conquests, which occurred a good 300 years earlier. British came here from money and other strategic reasons, as they did in Australia.

Nevertheless, the biggest difference is that we have accepted the wrongdoings of the past and moved on from this, we don't chant death to [insert infidel of the week] the second something happens we don't like. It's why Muslims are dying to migrate to every single one of our countries, rather than it being the other way around. I have no problem with that, just do not dare come to the west and force third-world mentalities onto us. We have moved on from that and there is no place for it, in our civilized society.

Once again though, we don't sit there and excuse the past with a you did it too. We also would never excuse the present with a you did it too in the past BS.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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You are thinking of the Spanish Conquests, which occurred a good 300 years earlier. British came here from money and other strategic reasons, as they did in Australia.

Nevertheless, the biggest difference is that we have accepted the wrongdoings of the past and moved on from this, we don't chant death to [insert infidel of the week] the second something happens we don't like. It's why Muslims are dying to migrate to every single one of our countries, rather than it being the other way around. I have no problem with that, just do not dare come to the west and force third-world mentalities onto us. We have moved on from that and there is no place for it, in our civilized society.

Once again though, we don't sit there and excuse the past with a you did it too. We also would never excuse the present with a you did it too in the past BS.

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hmmm but its ok for us to to go places like Iraq and kill hundreds of thousands because of a lie?

sara

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Pleeeease, someone drew a cartoon and they nearly burned a city down because of it. Sure it was their own city but hey, not exactly renowned for thought, just 'wars, atrocities and genocide'.

The Ottoman Empire used to churn people into human ground beef [while alive] or burn them alive to renounce Jesus, but hey that's nothing in comparison to this fool burning a Quran.

That's the difference with us, we can admit the wrongdoings of the past, Islam on the other hand just attempts to discredit it using other examples; like it makes it okay or something; which illustrates you have not moved on. The actions of so many over the last decade conform this.

More bullsh!t

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hmmm but its ok for us to to go places like Iraq and kill hundreds of thousands because of a lie?

sara

Actually we never deliberately killed innocent people. It's Islamic factions that have caused the majority of the violence in those countries and are still doing so. It's not Christians or Americans driving vehicles with explosives and blowing up communities, again and again, now is it.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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You are thinking of the Spanish Conquests, which occurred a good 300 years earlier. British came here from money and other strategic reasons, as they did in Australia.

Nevertheless, the biggest difference is that we have accepted the wrongdoings of the past and moved on from this, we don't chant death to [insert infidel of the week] the second something happens we don't like. It's why Muslims are dying to migrate to every single one of our countries, rather than it being the other way around. I have no problem with that, just do not dare come to the west and force third-world mentalities onto us. We have moved on from that and there is no place for it, in our civilized society.

Once again though, we don't sit there and excuse the past with a you did it too. We also would never excuse the present with a you did it too in the past BS.

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hmmm but its ok for us to to go places like Iraq and kill hundreds of thousands because of a lie?

sara

really what lie and where are these hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq by american soldiers?

If you refer to the missing WMD the action was taken on faulty info; but lets not speak about the Iraqy leader (Saddam Hussein) who was already under sanctions based on his own stupidity that caused the first Gulf War. This leader was clearly not following the cease fire agreements and did ebeything he could to thwart those sanctions and rules of the cease fire; becasue of his own stupiduty again it allowed faulty intell to place him and his country endanger once again. lets not talk about how many Muslims he and his sons killed/mutilated/raped robbed etc.

You really need to educate yourself more.

More deaths occur in Iraq/Afganistan by the hands of Islamic terroists (Extremists) than by the mission/ attacks/ defesive actions of the US and ally forces in those places.

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And you accuse me of living in denial when you yourself excercise it very well.

What BY has stated is actually quite on target.

Doesn't mean Islam needs be stamped out or that all Muslim people are bad but the religeon needs to evolve and be allowed to do so; or at least more than it has.

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Five second google search on images alone illustrates otherwise. You want me to upload around a handful of videos on the net of Muslims beheading people? I could even go down the article route and posts the thousands of incidents in this decade involving Islam.

http://www.islamicmovement.org/index_files/qudskn07.JPG

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/amuslimrally2.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/09/article-0-02976A3F00000578-973_468x253.jpg

http://images114.fotki.com/v634/photos/1/1222605/5411528/LiveLeakdotcomab9216c6cc15pal3-vi.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Uy2jpMqNnio/TIFVaQxyHRI/AAAAAAAAAh4/1N4Hv1ZvZn4/s1600/hindu-women-raped-by-muslims-bangladesh.jpg

http://images54.fotki.com/v564/photos/5/1222605/7885720/BritainMuslimShariaNetherlands-vi.jpg

This one is my favorite though:

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Actually we never deliberately killed innocent people. It's Islamic factions that have caused the majority of the violence in those countries and are still doing so. It's not Christians or Americans driving vehicles with explosives and blowing up communities, again and again, now is it.

seems we used enough explosive weapons when we took over that country and when they retaliated we called them terrorist..we as a nation have developed more terrorist than any Muslim country has ever done. my point is that we as a nation have not changed that much when we decide that we are in the right (never mind if we are not) so if we want the respect of other nations we need to clean up our own back yard........we listened to one mans lies and killed and maimed so many innocent (muslims)and....destroyed a country to give them freedom they did not want then and do not want now......how have we changed so much from our ancestors? we are still making the same mistakes with other peoples life....as Muslims we love the Quran of course we dont want it burnt...... we do not mistreat or disrespect a christian bible we also dont set on this forum 24 hours a day condemning actions of Christan people......you never find the amount of anti Christan off topic threads that you do on Muslims here

just my opinion

sara

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This is what drives thousands of people and what Sofiyya flat-out denies.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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seems we used enough explosive weapons when we took over that country and when they retaliated we called them terrorist..we as a nation have developed more terrorist than any Muslim country has ever done. my point is that we as a nation have not changed that much when we decide that we are in the right (never mind if we are not) so if we want the respect of other nations we need to clean up our own back yard........we listened to one mans lies and killed and maimed so many innocent (muslims)and....destroyed a country to give them freedom they did not want then and do not want now......how have we changed so much from our ancestors? we are still making the same mistakes with other peoples life....as Muslims we love the Quran of course we dont want it burnt...... we do not mistreat or disrespect a christian bible we also dont set on this forum 24 hours a day condemning actions of Christan people......you never find the amount of anti Christan off topic threads that you do on Muslims here

Um, Muslim terrorists are bombing their own people, what part of that do you fail to grasp? Once again, who do you think is stupid enough to blow themselves up or detonate one of thousands of bombs so-far in town squares, where women and children have been targets.

If you are not using the past as an example, you guys are falsely attempting to turn this into anti-Muslim, basically anything to divert attention from reality. Once again, these threads are discussing the problem within Islam, something all but one denies.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Um, Muslim terrorists are bombing their own people, what part of that do you fail to grasp? Once again, who do you think is stupid enough to blow themselves up or detonate one of thousands of bombs so-far in town squares, where women and children have been targets.

If you are not using the past as an example, you guys are falsely attempting to turn this into anti-Muslim, basically anything to divert attention from reality. Once again, these threads are discussing the problem within Islam, something all but one has denied.

i can see what the problem is and i have the ability to look at both sides of what is going on pity you do not

sara

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seems we used enough explosive weapons when we took over that country and when they retaliated we called them terrorist..we as a nation have developed more terrorist than any Muslim country has ever done. my point is that we as a nation have not changed that much when we decide that we are in the right (never mind if we are not) so if we want the respect of other nations we need to clean up our own back yard........we listened to one mans lies and killed and maimed so many innocent (muslims)and....destroyed a country to give them freedom they did not want then and do not want now......how have we changed so much from our ancestors? we are still making the same mistakes with other peoples life....as Muslims we love the Quran of course we dont want it burnt...... we do not mistreat or disrespect a christian bible we also dont set on this forum 24 hours a day condemning actions of Christan people......you never find the amount of anti Christan off topic threads that you do on Muslims here

just my opinion

sara

You have a backwards way of looking at things, you just cant have a productive discussion about Iraq with somebody who thinks like you.

As far as the Quran burning goes 99.9 percent of America does not support this pastor. Also quit acting like all Muslims treat Christians and Bibles with the utmost respect, simply not true.

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i can see what the problem is and i have the ability to look at both sides of what is going on pity you do not

sara

Problem is Islamic followers move to western countries they loathe and then start chanting deaths. We have no place for that uncivilized behavior in our society. Perhaps, this needs to be mentioned at the front door before Visas of any sort are granted.

The other problem clearly is that Islamic followers have an issue with reality, or its truly part of some sinister plan by their leaders, as can be seen in the example above. Particularly when considering it's a religion where you follow blindly and never question anything, it's not hard to realize there is a master plan.

In fact, this massive wave of Islamic immigration to every single first world country by many who share none of our values, culture or way of life, does give credence to this conquest by immigration theory so many have pointed out.

Rather than embrace the negative actions of others, most flat-out deny it. I can post article after article of atrocities committed directly in the name of Islam in the last decade alone, yet most on here will still say this sets no precedent nor is an example of anything.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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i can see what the problem is and i have the ability to look at both sides of what is going on pity you do not

sara

After reading your assessment on the Iraq war I would have to strongly disagree with that sentence.

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