K1 DENIED!! What next!?

[Audy_Rob 26]

Did your fiancee have prior employment, vocational school or higher education. What was presented as for her last ten years of activity? There might be aproblem there.

Good luck.

[Mel & Jay 0]

Hi. my then fiance, now my HUSBAND, calls me on Skype during our "online" dates.

During the interview just last May 2010, I just showed pictures, remittance copy receipts,

and our Skype chat messages from the start of our online date until the present- which is

AUG 08 to MAY 2010. Just one page of Skype chat logs of you and ur honey on every month will do.

You dont have to print "all" chat logs anyway,

We DIDNT present any phone cards whatsoever to prove that we are always talking.

SKYPE calls/messages can be a GREAT evidence that you and your fiance(e) are bonafide couples.

Goodluck on filing K1!

[Nwanyioma 11]

Make sure you do not mention this at the second interview, if there is one. If this comes up, be sure to mention it's an "engagement ceremony"! Also call yourselves other endearing names, even fiance(e) in front of the officer, not husband/wife. This is a trap that many fall into and there have been cases of denial based on this only.

Subscribing to what everyone already said, your case was not denied...Keep calm and provide all the extra proofs they might need. Best of luck!

I totally agree with what Aleksa and Nico mentioned. If you or your fiancee mention/address each other as husband and wife, it will defintely stir up alot of problems. Me and my husband (he was my fiancee then) went through chaos at the Lagos embassy because we were addressing each other as husband and wife, and the CO believed that we were secretly married. We eventually got the visa but man its too much of a hassal to deal with. Please contact your states senator/congressman if you need additional assistance. All the Best.

Nwanyioma

[MJ&S 0]

Was it really denied? From what I know a blue slip means that you just need to pass some missing paperworks or from what you've said just copies of phone records. In Manila there has been cases of blue slips that still got a K1 approved visa after submitting what the embassy wanted.

That is not true.. After my interview i saw the CO has a blue paper on his hand and he wrote something that i dont know coz he didnt show it to me. He put me in under review but after 8 weeks of waiting he denied me...Now we are in the process of appeal

[MRStee 19]

Please see the highlighted... if true and legal then it is no wonder you have problems getting a FIANCE(E) visa....

I agree with this particular post. If it 'appears' to be a wedding, the reason they probably didn't look at everything is because they believe you are already married, which in this case would mean you would need to do a CR1 visa instead of a K-1 visa. Secondly, I am 16 years older than my husband and we were approved. We filed a K-1 and the only hold up we had was at the NVC stage and most likely they were doing a background check on us. I have several clearances and my husband (then fiance) record was clean. Yes, they do suspect age sometimes, but other times, its not a problem.

I also agree with other posters who suggested you tell them its an engagement ceremony and to refer to her as you fiancee not your wife.

Good luck!

[nab 74]

Was it really denied? From what I know a blue slip means that you just need to pass some missing paperworks or from what you've said just copies of phone records. In Manila there has been cases of blue slips that still got a K1 approved visa after submitting what the embassy wanted.

That is not true.. After my interview i saw the CO has a blue paper on his hand and he wrote something that i dont know coz he didnt show it to me. He put me in under review but after 8 weeks of waiting he denied me...Now we are in the process of appeal

what is not true? this person knows others who have rec'd a blue slip and still rec'd their K-1 visa. also, the OP said they asked for add'l records. i dont see any deception at all in anything that person stated.

in your case it sounds like they had a blue slip ready to give to you, perhaps they were wanting more paperwork/proof from you, and then decided after interview to deny you instead. they didnt give you the blue slip and didnt ask for add'l paperwork, do i have that correct? and they put you "under review" or AP, correct?

now you know not every case is same.

Edited August 29, 2010 by nab

[Dakine 26]

Call your senator/congressman and get their staff involved. My senator has a immigration specialist that has helped us a LOT thruout the process. Get on it before they send the petition back to USCIS.

[Darnell 8,479]

whew ! a blue slip ! that's not a denial !

Sounds like you've gotten the 'blue-slip-overcome' evidence coming in, so that's a plus.

IMO, with a rude VO, somethings wonky - so you might want to meticulously go over, with yer lass, the exact questions and answers in the interview, what the VO was doing 'when', etc etc,

write it down in narrative form.

Then study it. If you feel any snarkynes from the VO, after reading that narrative, hey ! post back here, maybe this 'blue slip' is a feint, instead, to trip up on something else. Snarkyness at GUZ IV is a bad sign, usually something else is going on, with ultimate 'intent to deny' coming in later.

[MsNaNa 0]

Best of luck with turning in the remainder of documents! You've received some great advice here.

Best of luck with turning in the remainder of documents! You've received some great advice here.

[MsNaNa 0]

Best of luck with turning in the remainder of documents! You've received some great advice here.

[Ryan H 3,834]

Aleksa & Nico, on 28 August 2010 - 10:36 PM, said:

Make sure you do not mention this at the second interview, if there is one. If this comes up, be sure to mention it's an "engagement ceremony"! Also call yourselves other endearing names, even fiance(e) in front of the officer, not husband/wife. This is a trap that many fall into and there have been cases of denial based on this only.

Subscribing to what everyone already said, your case was not denied...Keep calm and provide all the extra proofs they might need. Best of luck!

I totally agree with what Aleksa and Nico mentioned. If you or your fiancee mention/address each other as husband and wife, it will defintely stir up alot of problems. Me and my husband (he was my fiancee then) went through chaos at the Lagos embassy because we were addressing each other as husband and wife, and the CO believed that we were secretly married. We eventually got the visa but man its too much of a hassal to deal with. Please contact your states senator/congressman if you need additional assistance. All the Best.

Nwanyioma

OP:

I agree with these posters. Plus you did clarify that it was a ceremony only and that you did not file paperwork. For it to be legal, I believe that the filing of paperwork is necessary. I'll restate for emphasis what has already been said, saying you had a wedding, calling yourselves spouses, etc. will create problems for you.

With that being said, I have read that a large difference in age has resulted in a visa not being issued. I am hopeful for you both that once you submit the additional paperwork that Consulate has asked for, they will issue the visa.

Good luck and best wishes to you both.

[Khomer1964 0]

Hello Friend,

I am so sorry to here of your experience in Guangzhou for your fiancee's interview. After reading your experience, i found that we are very similar in our stories: I met my fiancee about 15 months ago. I did visit her in Shanghai for a week, nowhere near the 15 times tyou visited. She did visit me here in the US for a month and lived with me. We started our I-129f paperwork right before she returned to her home in Zhenjiang. We provided all the evidence they requested. We were approved and a month later we got an interview date. We have emails, chat logs, several pictures with us together both in China and in the US, engagement ring receipt, airline ticket receipts and itineraries. We chatted every day on Yahoo and talked only one or two times on the phone. We did however chat on Yahoo when we first started communicating but only briefly. I never really wrote her letters, but sent birthday cards or a quick note when sending her gifts and other things i bought her. The mail system is very bad where she lives and sometimes it took a weeks for her to get items i sent for her. I don't have any phone records to provide, but i have hundreds of text messages.

I have talked to several people on here who have told me that their fiancee's have been approved after only 3 minutes of questions, and they were NEVER asked to provide phone records! It sounds to me that you were unfortunate enough to get a person with an real attitude problem or was 'under the weather'.

Nevertheless, I think you should look into getting legal assistance if you have any further issues. It doesn't seem to me that you were lacking information that was so important that you were denied. It seems very strange.

The wedding ceremony issue shouldn't really be a problem, from what i have read here. And besides, you said it never came up in the interview. This CO seems to be an idiot. I would talk to an attorney and see what your options are.

Good luck

Kurt and Ellen

7/21/09 - Chatted online at Cherry Blossoms website

8/28/09 - Applied for Passport / Travel Visa for China

10/1/09 - Visited Shanghai China and met Ellen

2/8/10 - Ellen applied/received B-1 Travel Visa

3/8/10 - Ellen visits me in USA for 30 days

3/27/10 - Engaged

3/30/10 - Mailed I-129f K-1 visa packet

4/1/10 - USPS verifies that packet was received

4/2/10 - Received hard copy of NOA1

6/2/10 - Contacted USCIS about status (60 days)

7/2/10 - Contacted USCIS about status (90 days)

7/9/10 - NOA2 approved (97 days)

7/16/10 - NVC Received

7/19/10 - NVC sent to China Embassy

8/2/10 - Consulate Received package

8/3/10 - Packet 3 sent

8/5/10 - Packet 3 Received by Embassy

8/19/10 - Called DoS about interview date; No date scheduled yet

8/23/10 - Called DoS again; was given interview date of Sept 27

8/28/10 -received P4 letter with interview date

[Darnell 8,479]

hey nsxguy - any news?

[Shenzhen 34]

Wow, how heartbreaking! My wife and I met 15 months ago in China. Ten (yes,10!!) trips to China and 150,000 flown miles later, We found ourselves at the embassy in Guangxuo for her interview. As you can imagine, we had hundreds of photos, receipts, etc. as evidence that our relationship was legitimate. We even had a wedding ceremony this past february in her hometown. I even lived with her last summer in Shenzhen.

The interviewer was incredibly RUDE and gave her less than 3 minutes of his time. He barely looked at a little of the mountain of evidence and denied her with a "blue" form. He told her that she needed phone records and that was all we were missing.

This sounds like total BS to me. Had he spent three minutes with both of us ( I was waiting downstairs! ) he would have easily seen that ours was a legitimate union. After talking to many people ( including her friends, all of whom were passed with barely a thought! ), we were told that maybe our age difference (she is 29, I am 48) was a factor in the denial. My greatest worry is that this man was not being truthful and has no intention of approving us. As you can see by the photo, neither one of us appears our age. Anybody have any thoughts/comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Whats up nxsguy7? Haven't heard anything it's been a few weeks? Where did you go?

[awatson 1]

skype will not give you the option to print out your account page any ideas on how to do this