Would You Support The Mosque More If This Nutbar Imam Weren't Running the Show?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I've been listening to alot of audio and reading about this imam quite a bit who's heading up the Mosque near GZ.

I hadn't heard much about him except for the past few days and now even I am having to double-think the idea of this mosque.

This guy is clearly anti-American in many of the things he's said and even has come out and blamed things on the sanctions we've made as well.

I am cool with a Mosque/COmmunity Center, but not cool with it if this is the guy who's going to be running the show...

I will stand up and say if this guy is the one doing it, then it is nothing more than a trophy flag near grond zero for him.

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Any Democrat that would actually like to keep public attention on the NYC Muslim//anti-Muslim/Community Center/Mosque/Bigot/Sensitivity/Bad Taste/Etc issue instead of urging the President to show the American Public exactly how obstructionism is impeding progress towards meaningful employement legislation that benefits them, not shareholders- would like to thank you for keeping that campfire going.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I would support the mosque more if the benefactor financing it weren't a major stockholder in Newscorp. But FoxNews don't want you to know that little tidbit.

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This is what he told religious leaders in Bahrain recently. Wow, what a nut!

Imam Feisal ... told religious leaders in Bahrain that the most important conflicts in the world were between the children of Abraham, whether the Israeli/Palestinian conflict or the US/Iran conflict and the challenge for them was how they could play a role in bringing peace.

"We are Christians, Jews and Muslims, but one of our faults is instead of worshipping God, we worship our religion and use that to cause division between us," said Imam Feisal.

"The sense of brotherhood and unity that the prophets had for each other as servants of the true God is the primary lesson we should all learn.

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"It's time we also saw that if we followed the laws of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed they were not opposed to each other."

Imam Feisal said most Western universities had departments of Islamic studies but departments of Christian or Jewish studies were rarely seen in this part of the world.

He said it was important for those in the Islamic world to study the history and culture of Christianity and Judaism.

On politics and religion, Imam Feisal said the Islamic world was facing tension between the mosque and state, just as the West had between the church and state centuries ago.

"We need to find a way to infuse our religious practices in politics without politicising our religion," he said.

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He added that if there was a proposal to build a church and synagogue alongside the mosque it would be accepted by Muslims and that he would pray for such a project.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Any Democrat that would actually like to keep public attention on the NYC Muslim//anti-Muslim/Community Center/Mosque/Bigot/Sensitivity/Bad Taste/Etc issue instead of urging the President to show the American Public exactly how obstructionism is impeding progress towards meaningful employement legislation that benefits them, not shareholders- would like to thank you for keeping that campfire going.

meaningful employment legislation???

This isn't China of yesterday. It's not the government's job to create jobs. It's their job to create an environment that's good for jobs. Of course they've done plenty to cluster-#### that environment.

Back to the topic at hand....

Is it smart to have a guy who has obvious anti-American sentiment leading this thing?

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This is what he told religious leaders in Bahrain recently. Wow, what a nut!

Same nuts that insist on the evangelization of the US and State Governments or are they different?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

This is what he told religious leaders in Bahrain recently. Wow, what a nut!

Your 'nut' has also put blame on the United States for 9/11.

He's also put blame on Muslims dying in Iraq thanks to the United States' sanctions, etc.

Taken a few opportunities to blast the US for things. Doesn't exactly sound like he always means what he says when playing 'nice.'

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meaningful employment legislation???

This isn't China of yesterday. It's not the government's job to create jobs. It's their job to create an environment that's good for jobs. Of course they've done plenty to cluster-#### that environment.

Back to the topic at hand....

Is it smart to have a guy who has obvious anti-American sentiment leading this thing?

I said legislation, not direct employment creation. You can claim the government can't legislate jobs without creating them to be government employment- so that should also leave out tax breaks that only benefit profits for major corporations.

Please keep posting these supposed anti-American sentiments to show how polarized you really are.

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Your 'nut' has also put blame on the United States for 9/11.

He's also put blame on Muslims dying in Iraq thanks to the United States' sanctions, etc.

Taken a few opportunities to blast the US for things. Doesn't exactly sound like he always means what he says when playing 'nice.'

Some people say that our government's role in meddling in the Middle East is a causal factor in 9/11. As a libertarian you should be well aware of this. Those terrorists didn't just pick out the US as a target for no apparent reason.

No country is perfect, and when a country is due for criticism, its due. If we were to judge people for their intent when having a dialogue, then people here on VJ, you included, would likely be fried.

[BobandXiaomei 14]

The Islamic cultural center (that also holds a mosque within) is another red herring to keep the yokels stirred up.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Some people say that our government's role in meddling in the Middle East is a causal factor in 9/11. As a libertarian you should be well aware of this. Those terrorists didn't just pick out the US as a target for no apparent reason.

No country is perfect, and when a country is due for criticism, its due. If we were to judge people for their intent when having a dialogue, then people here on VJ, you included, would likely be fried.

Oh I get it. I'm just saying - This is a Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero. This Mosque is being headed up by a guy who has anti-American sentiments and has made a bunch off off the cusp remarks in blaming the United States for things. He's not exactly the poster child that you'd want representing the Muslim Community in this situation. Unless that is, the Muslim community agrees with him (which many do not) and then that would make it even worse and the 'American' outrage would be quite justified.

We won't get into how I 'really' feel about 9/11. Been there, done that. It's never pretty.

I would be 'fried' for a lot more than what I say on here, trust me. Of course I have more of a disdain for humanity than most people do as well. It's never anything personal, it's just I 'get' people. Which is actually quite annoying.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

The Islamic cultural center (that also holds a mosque within) is another red herring to keep the yokels stirred up.

This isn't about the center/Mosque. It's about the Imam who's heading it up....

I have no problem with the Mosque/Center.

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Oh I get it. I'm just saying - This is a Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero. This Mosque is being headed up by a guy who has anti-American sentiments and has made a bunch off off the cusp remarks in blaming the United States for things. He's not exactly the poster child that you'd want representing the Muslim Community in this situation. Unless that is, the Muslim community agrees with him (which many do not) and then that would make it even worse and the 'American' outrage would be quite justified.

We won't get into how I 'really' feel about 9/11. Been there, done that. It's never pretty.

I would be 'fried' for a lot more than what I say on here, trust me. Of course I have more of a disdain for humanity than most people do as well. It's never anything personal, it's just I 'get' people. Which is actually quite annoying.

Where's that list of horrible Anti-American sentiments?

Also feel free to share your disdain of humanity in as many details as possible.

Mental health has nice definitions for people that hate everyone on general grounds.

[BobandXiaomei 14]

This isn't about the center/Mosque. It's about the Imam who's heading it up....

I have no problem with the Mosque/Center.

But it's always something.

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Your 'nut' has also put blame on the United States for 9/11.

He's also put blame on Muslims dying in Iraq thanks to the United States' sanctions, etc.

Taken a few opportunities to blast the US for things. Doesn't exactly sound like he always means what he says when playing 'nice.'

Also what AJ posted was something that Imam said recently. Of course now Imam is going to change his attitude.