'beat whitey night.' in Des Moines

[The_Dude 1,142]

I will whip out the dictionary later and maybe comment.

In the meantime, you better get back to work, I think the fries are burning.

[luckytxn 2,265]

In the meantime, you better get back to work, I think the fries are burning.

Will do.

[Jenn! 918]

Can only be a hate crime if it is a white person committing the crime.

I suggest you inform yourself before making sweeping, inaccurate statements such as this one. I know you want it to be true because it reinforces the common "reverse racism" platform, but it's not.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/index.html

[The_Dude 1,142]

I suggest you inform yourself before making sweeping, inaccurate statements such as this one. I know you want it to be true because it reinforces the common "reverse racism" platform, but it's not.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/index.html

It's a lost cause Jenn. He's the guy who can't just say Obama, it has to be Obama the Muslim, or Obama the Socialist. He is stuck in his preconceived notions and not even TNT could pry them loose.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Can only be a hate crime if it is a white person committing the crime.

What a white person comment that is.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Please stop the baiting and the personal attacks - they add nothing to the discusssion.

And for clarification, I actually asked a number of members to be more circumspect with their reports and make sure that a real TOS violation has occurred rather than making a report because they are annoyed at someone else.

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

What a white person comment that is.

I live near Detroit and every day there are incidents on the local news of black on white, black on arab, and black on asian crimes. Almost all of these crimes are racially motivated and witnesses hear racial spews coming out of the perpetrators mouths. Just last year an Arab girl had her hijab ripped off by a gang of over 10 black kids and was beat, drug through the street, and the kids doing the beating were screaming racially charged insults. The Arab American Anti Discrimination League pushed for it to be charged as a hate crime but prosecutors ignored it....I wonder why? Not long ago a 21 year old pregnant white woman was shot and killed by a group of black men, was it charged as a hate crime? Guess what, no! No, these are not the only hate crimes in the Detroit area THAT WERE NEVER CHARGED AS HATE CRIMES commited against whites and asians. If either one of these situations had been reversed they would be getting life for a hate crime.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It isn't only whites that get charged with hate crimes. There are real statistics and real stories that back that up. It's been proven on here before and you can seek it out if you care to.

That's more reality than you'll get from clicheed comments with racial undertones.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[HAL 9000 96]

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/victims.html

Racial bias

More than half of the single-bias hate crimes were racially motivated. Of the 4,934 victims of these racial bias crimes:

• 72.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.
• 16.8 percent were victims because of an anti-white bias.
• 3.4 percent were targeted because of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias.
• 1.3 percent were victims because of an anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias.
• 5.6 percent were victims because of a bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group). (Based on Table 1.)

This has been explored before (and ignored).

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

The crimes that should have been charged as a racially motivated hate crime but were NOT charged as a hate crime cannot be included in the FBI statistics. Therefore those numbers are not accurate if you look at the amount of hate crimes that were not charged as hate crimes.

[The_Dude 1,142]

The crimes that should have been charged as a racially motivated hate crime but were NOT charged as a hate crime cannot be included in the FBI statistics. Therefore those numbers are not accurate if you look at the amount of hate crimes that were not charged as hate crimes.

Are you qualified to make such a statement about the methodology of this research?

[Jenn! 918]

The crimes that should have been charged as a racially motivated hate crime but were NOT charged as a hate crime cannot be included in the FBI statistics. Therefore those numbers are not accurate if you look at the amount of hate crimes that were not charged as hate crimes.

Have you done studies on this? You're proposing that the statistics are biased. How do you know that the only bias is away from black offenders? What if there were a greater proportion of racially motivated crimes by white offenders that should have been prosecuted as hate crimes? Or does that scenario not support your preconceived notions?

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

Are you qualified to make such a statement about the methodology of this research?

Excuse me for not being politically correct but I know what I see in the area where I live and it is rampant. Hate crimes that are not charged as hate crimes is very common here. I seriously doubt the FBI lets a "regular" crime have any effect on their hate crime statistics.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The crimes that should have been charged as a racially motivated hate crime but were NOT charged as a hate crime cannot be included in the FBI statistics. Therefore those numbers are not accurate if you look at the amount of hate crimes that were not charged as hate crimes.

So what? You're just going to stick to what you believe that whites are subjected to harsher prison sentences than non whites because of hate crime laws? You really think it's that simple?

In point of fact there is evidence in some areas that blacks receive disproportionately higher prison sentences than whites for equivalent crimes. This too has been discussed on here previously and ignored out of hand.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[Fandango 1,440]

This is the reason I hate the label 'hate crime'. I think the motivations behind beating someone to a pulp or whatever the crime is, shouldn't have to be mitigated by whether the perp was using a racial bias. What is the flippin difference anyways?