Does Barack Obama want to be re-elected in 2012?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I got 50 bucks that says he wont be.

No TAKERS?

[HAL 9000 96]

Taking a vote is what it is, really. If you're not paying attention to the recent tie ups with allowing bills to go to votes... you probably shouldn't be making stuff up here for jest.

[slim 1,525]

No TAKERS?

Clarify.

Are you saying you have $50 that says he won't be reelected?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Clarify.

Are you saying you have $50 that says he won't be reelected?

[BobandXiaomei 14]

I'm concerned if he were to suspend elections folks would take up arms.

Now we all know that it's impossible for a POTUS to not allow the elections for 2012. Lincoln held elections during the Civil War; Roosevelt during WW2. So why would anyone ever believe that Obama could/would not allow elections for 2012?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Now we all know that it's impossible for a POTUS to not allow the elections for 2012. Lincoln held elections during the Civil War; Roosevelt during WW2. So why would anyone ever believe that Obama could/would not allow elections for 2012?

ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS. (a) ESTABLISHMENT (1) IN GENERAL.here shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency. (2) REQUIREMENT.All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended. (3) APPOINTMENT.Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. (4) ACTIVE DUTY.Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training. (5) WARRANT OFFICERS.Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service. (b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO THE REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment of the Affordable Health Choices Act, all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps. [Note here that those personally appointed by BO -- without advice and consent of the Senate -- automatically become a part of the Regular Corps. Ed.] © PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESERVE. (1) PURPOSE.The purpose of the Ready Reserve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short notice (similar to the uniformed services reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions. (2) USES.The Ready Reserve Corps shall (A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps; (B) be available and ready for involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel; © be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emergencies, both foreign and domestic; and (D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 399SS) to improve access to health services. (d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to the Office of the Surgeon General for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall be used for recruitment and training of Commissioned Corps Officers.

How many of you, dear readers, were aware of the fact that the health care bill created another army?

[slim 1,525]

What army?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What army?

Well, if you knew about it, it wouldn't be very secret, now would it?

[slim 1,525]

Well, if you knew about it, it wouldn't be very secret, now would it?

If I knew about it, it would be a real army.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

They could easily just vote on the bills in order to avoid the obstructionist label. If you haven't noticed, we've spent most major bill since Obama took office clearing [Republican] hurdles one by one set by procedural obstructions, not Blue Dog concerns- although that is also a factor in the watering down of legislation in order to get to the votes- compromise-style. Like I said, put things into the context they belong to, not such a black and white vision of a political world that does not exist.

Come on now, your being obtuse. The reps could do nothing to slow down, fillibuster or stop any part of any bill the dems wanted to put out. Just the threat of a fillibuster was all it took. The dems had 60 votes in the senate. That is enough to stop any procedural games the reps wanted to play. The only reason the reps were able to do anything is because not all dems were on board. The blue dogs were the ones being catered to and compromised with, not the reps. Your call for "context" is nothing but an attempt to deflect what really happened, the dems blew it without any help from the reps.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

How many of you, dear readers, were aware of the fact that the health care bill created another army?

Not one. Because it doesn't. The army you claim it creates has existed for over 200 fcuking years. Take off the tin foil hat already and start perusing real, actual news reports. The RWN blogsphere is taking a severe toll on whatever is left of that brain of yours.

The history of the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is the history of health defense in the United States. For more than 200 years, the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps has been our Nation's frontline against the spread of disease from sailors returning from foreign ports, to immigrants entering the country, to communities affected by natural and manmade disasters. The Corps response to the health threats posed by Hurricane Katrina and other recent disasters underscores the value to our Nation of having a highly trained, multidisciplinary, and quickly mobilized cadre of medical professionals. Today, the Corps fights for better public health on multiple fronts. Corps officers are involved in disease control and prevention, biomedical research, regulation of food and drugs, mental health and drug abuse, health care delivery, and international health. As a vital part of the U.S. Public Health Service, the Commissioned Corps is an essential component of the largest public health program in the world.

Commissioned Corps Timeline

• 1798—John Adams, second president of the United States, signed into law the Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen. A year later, Congress extended the Act to cover every officer and sailor in the U.S. Navy. The Act led to the gradual creation of a loose network of locally controlled marine hospitals along coastal and inland waterways.
  
• 1870—Hospital administration was centralized in the Marine Hospital Service, with its headquarters in Washington, DC, under the position of supervising surgeon (later Surgeon General).
  
• 1871—John Maynard Woodworth, the first supervising surgeon, adopted a military model for his medical staff as part of system reform. Woodworth instituted examinations for applicants, put physicians in uniforms, and created a cadre of mobile, career-service physicians who can be assigned to various marine hospitals.
  
• 1878—The prevalence of major epidemic diseases such as smallpox, yellow fever, and cholera spurred Congress to enact the National Quarantine Act to prevent the introduction of contagious and infectious diseases into the United States. Congress later extended the Act to prevent the spread of disease among the States. The task of controlling epidemic diseases through quarantine and disinfection measures, as well as immunization programs, fell to the Marine Hospital Service.
  
• 1889—Legislation formalized the Commissioned Corps as the uniformed services component of the Marine Hospital Service. Congress organized Corps officers along military lines, with titles and pay corresponding to Army and Navy grades.
  
• 1902—Name of the Marine Hospital Service expanded to Public Health and Marine Hospital Service to reflect growing responsibilities. The Service now carried out the medical inspection of arriving immigrants, such as those landing at Ellis Island in New York, as well as former State quarantine responsibilities. Commissioned Corps officers played a major role in fulfilling the Service's commitment to preventing disease from entering the country.
  
• 1912—Name of the Public Health and Marine Hospital Service shortened to the Public Health Service (PHS). Legislation enacted by Congress broadened the powers of the PHS by authorizing investigations into human diseases (such as tuberculosis, hookworm, malaria, and leprosy), sanitation, water supplies, and sewage disposal.
  
• 1930 and 1944—Corps officers expanded to include engineers, dentists, research scientists, nurses, and other health care specialists, as well as physicians.
  
• 2006 (and beyond)—The Commissioned Corps continues to fulfill its mission to protect and promote the public health of our Nation. With more than 6,000 active-duty officers, the Corps is working both nationally and internationally to create a global world free of preventable disease, sickness, and suffering.
  

[HAL 9000 96]

Come on now, your being obtuse. The reps could do nothing to slow down, fillibuster or stop any part of any bill the dems wanted to put out. Just the threat of a fillibuster was all it took. The dems had 60 votes in the senate. That is enough to stop any procedural games the reps wanted to play. The only reason the reps were able to do anything is because not all dems were on board. The blue dogs were the ones being catered to and compromised with, not the reps. Your call for "context" is nothing but an attempt to deflect what really happened, the dems blew it without any help from the reps.

You might want to check the timeline for the legislative body every time a bill didn't get voted on... Yes, that's called context, not Gary Johnlogic. Like I said, Blue Dogs are a part of the equation only. Quit the black and white drama- reality ain't like that.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

You might want to check the timeline for the legislative body every time a bill didn't get voted on... Yes, that's called context, not Gary Johnlogic. Like I said, Blue Dogs are a part of the equation only. Quit the black and white drama- reality ain't like that.

I have been paying very close attention to the last 18 months. Not one, repeat, not one bill was stopped or changed because of the reps. It has all been because of the blue dogs and their unwillingness to go along with the rest of the dems. The only time it changed was when Brown was elected and the dems lost their 60 seat majority. Before that, it was all the dems fighting among themselves. You can lie to yourself all you want but you can't change history.

[HAL 9000 96]

You can't be expected to be trusted on your claim on following 18 months' worth of objective news if you can't catch a single statement in one post:

Like I said, Blue Dogs are a part of the equation only.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

You can't be expected to be trusted on your claim on following 18 months' worth of objective news if you can't catch a single statement in one post:

Prove me wrong then. The blue dogs were 100% of the problem. Sure they made window dressing attempts to get the reps on board but in the end they had the votes without the reps. It is the dems blowing it 100%.

Edited August 25, 2010 by JohnSmith2007