ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

[Heracles 417]

No BY, not simply hateful - racist. Referring to a Hispanic posters family as "bowl cut Inca" IS racist, sneering at someone's hispanic SO and suggesting that they are sub-par IS racist, stating that that blacks and hispanic citizens should have fewer civil rights than everyone else IS racist, claiming that blacks in the US have the social problems they do because they can't run a piss up in a brewery and look at Africa for proof IS racist.

Yes I said it once, and was suspended for a while because of it. You don't need to repeat it again and again and again and again in every thread, year after year.

Gezz man, you are accuse me of being a cry baby yet you are the one holding grudges from thing said up to five years ago. You and your mates are the ones who have created x threads about this #######; about what people say. hence, my thread of regarding bitter legacy members moving on.

That's great, then !! Have you formulated any personal plan for implementing this, or still thinking about 'your best approach' ??

There is no point.

Clearly some advocate their personal opinion should be heard yet the rest just shut-up and take it.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles

[Jenn! 918]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/270850-legacy-posters-stirring-trouble/page__view__findpost__p__4149029

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wouldn't call it a grudge really, more a statement of fact. If you're indeed serious about moving on prove it with actions rather than hot air.

[Darnell 8,478]

There is no point.

Oh - that's sad, really - I'm sorry you feel that way. For a moment, there, I thought you had 'other leanings', and some insight on what you were going to do, to 'drop all prior stuff' and move on with a lighter version of 'forum posting'.

Darn. You had my hopes up there, for a brief moment.

Shucks.

OK then - good luck with what ever the next decision is, really !

[Heracles 417]

I wouldn't call it a grudge really, more a statement of fact. If you're indeed serious about moving on prove it with actions rather than hot air.

Well I am not going to move on to satisfy you. In fact, had it not been for you guys, I probably would have left VJ. Ever thought I say things to see you guys have a hissy-fit about them?

Men don't hold on to what someone said years and years ago. Hal, A.J, Rob and yourself do.. hmm Come to think of it, I would understand if females on here did this but really it's you guys that do it.

My wife is going shopping tonight, perhaps you guys want to accompany her.

[Heracles 417]

Oh - that's sad, really - I'm sorry you feel that way. For a moment, there, I thought you had 'other leanings', and some insight on what you were going to do, to 'drop all prior stuff' and move on with a lighter version of 'forum posting'.

Darn. You had my hopes up there, for a brief moment.

Shucks.

OK then - good luck with what ever the next decision is, really !

Meaning there is no point with you. Half the time you post I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. I try to understand but I just caaaan't.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well I am not going to move on to satisfy you. In fact, had it not been for you guys, I probably would have left VJ. Ever thought I say things to see you guys have a hissy-fit about them?

Men don't hold on to what someone said years and years ago. Hal, A.J, Rob and yourself do.. hmm Come to think of it, I would understand if females on here did this but really it's you guys that do it.

My wife is going shopping tonight, perhaps you guys want to accompany her.

No, you aren't going to satisfy me - because I don't see this self-indulgent ranting on your part as proof of a genuine desire to "change" or to see a positive change in the nature of discussion on VJ.

The above is a perfect example.

[Darnell 8,478]

Meaning there is no point with you. Half the time you post I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. I try to understand but I just caaaan't.

well, about 90 percent of my posts here on VJ are about IMMIGRATION. I'll assume it's the other 10 percent , the stuff you might actually read, that yer having some issue with. So if only 5 percent of what you read, from me, is not understandable by you? OK - that's an acceptable level, for me, really.

but..

for the nonce - seriously - please reread post 1, see if you can 'dip in' the pool of 'declaring truce and go forth' ??

Edited August 23, 2010 by Darnell

[Heracles 417]

No, you aren't going to satisfy me - because I don't see this self-indulgent ranting on your part as proof of a genuine desire to "change" or to see a positive change in the nature of discussion on VJ.

The above is a perfect example.

Since mocking is acceptable in your rule book, then I will use this too. You should have learned by now that I am very dynamic. You guys swore up and down that I pull stats from my azz, so I used charts. You hate racism but endorse insults, then I will use this. I was not being racist in the posts you quote, I was deliberately being a ###### to people who deserved it.

You want to have a legitimate discusison like an adult, I can do that to. Though I know you prefer to bring up what I said many years ago from a heated discussion. A lot easier than actually having a discussion hey.

I might disagree with Gary but at least the guy puts forth an effort to a legitimate discussion. It's why both of us can have create some lengthy posts about something we are discussing. Can you say the same about your mates or yourself? Of course not, as you are busy attacking myself or Gary.

well, about 90 percent of my posts here on VJ are about IMMIGRATION. I'll assume it's the other 10 percent , the stuff you might actually read, that yer having some issue with. So if only 5 percent of what you read, from me, is not understandable by you? OK - that's an acceptable level, for me, really.

but..

for the nonce - seriously - please reread post 1, see if you can 'dip in' the pool of 'declaring truce and go forth' ??

It was a joke Darnell.

Agreed, my work is done in this thread.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles

[The_Dude 1,142]

IP bans solves all problems.

Si, man.

IP bans are only effective for people not intelligent enough to understand network settings.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Since mocking is acceptable in your rule book, then I will use this too. You should have learned by now that I am very dynamic. You guys swore up and down that I pull stats from my azz, so I used charts. You hate racism but endorse insults, then I will use this.

You want to have a legitimate discusison like an adult, I can do that to. Though I know you prefer top bring up what I said man years ago from a heated discussion. At lot easier than actually having a discussion. I might disagree with Gary but at least the guy puts forth an effort to a legitimate discussion. It's why both of us can have create some lengthy posts about something we are discussing. Can you say the same about your mates or yourself? Of course not, as you are busy attacking myself or Gary.

It was a joke Darnell.

Agreed, my work is done in this thread.

There's no "discussion" in this thread, BY. Merely the same crocodile tears sob story about people "picking on you" that you bring up every couple of months to anyone who is willing to listen. You simply aren't fooling anyone. If you want to move on, then do it. You can only control your own actions, not anyone else's.

[Heracles 417]

There's no "discussion" in this thread, BY. Merely the same crocodile tears sob story about people "picking on you" that you bring up every couple of months to anyone who is willing to listen. You simply aren't fooling anyone. If you want to move on, then do it. You can only control your own actions, not anyone else's.

What isn't fooling anyone is this diversion strategy. The attempt to shift your actions onto me.

Riight, you guys are the ones who cry about everything, from the mods to individual posters, yet I am the one apaprently in "tears". Discussing the posting style or schemes of you and your like-minded friends hardly amounts to playing the victim mate. Playing the victim would be Pike picked on me, have him banned, Pike said something I didn't like, have him banned. Mods suspend me but not person A for x. Sound familiar?

Ask the mods or Ewok how many times I have complained to them about a poster. None. End of story

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The report function is available to you as well as to others. As is your right to complain if you don't feel that moderation is addressing your concerns.

[Welshcookie 17]

IP bans are only effective for people not intelligent enough to understand network settings.

That would be me then

[Darnell 8,478]

Wait a mo - is this true? BY never, ever used the report button? OMG.