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[Peikko 1,575]

welshie I don't even know where the hell it came from but that's just how I feel. I don't even pay attention to it anymore unless it's a thread I've started and it's just gone really far another way. usually cleo starts the convo going somewhere else. she always apologizes to me though

My bad.

[Heracles 417]

I have the perfect example of this, for whatever reason Cleo is outraged over my use of gringo, when it was clearly in jest. Because she assumed it was negative to an entire group, apparently this is now worse than the holocaust. Hateful, offensive and so forth.

Yet strange how she had no issue with her buddy Pike referring to Natty's kids. Now I understand what pike meant but that is not the point. Natty was infuriated about his toddlers being used to mock him, which is perfectly understandable. Yet to Pike, Cleo, A.J and co, as long as you don't group people, such insults are no big deal.

No those insults are a ###### big deal as they are personal. Not even your mum style personal but actually offensive personal. Yet ironically Pike went on and Cleo said nothing about this because they did not deem this offensive. That is the hypocrisy I cannot stand with these guys, who come on here with this sanctimonious attitude. Come here and pretend they want peace and serenity. Bullcrap, they want the old VJ moderation back, when comments like that would slide yet Natty would be suspended for understandably threatening Pike.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles

[Heracles 417]

Great. Can I look forward to your stopping saying things like 'people like you', accusing posters of 'camping out' on VJ - quitting the ridiculous charge of posters 'following you around and ganging up on you' and other irrelevancies? That's fantastic

Well tell your mates to stop doing it and all is good.

That said, they have calmed down a lot over the last few months. Then again your new mate seems to be doing it quite a bit.

[^_^ 5,021]

I have the perfect example of this, for whatever reason Cleo is outraged over my use of gringo, when it was clearly in jest. Because she assumed it referred negatively to an entire group, apparently this is now worse than the holocaust. Hateful, offensive and so forth.

Yet strange how she had no issue with her buddy Pike referring to Natty's kids. Now I understand what pike meant but that is not the point. Natty was infuriated about his toddlers being used to mock him, which is perfectly understandable. Yet to Pike, Cleo, A.J and co, as long as you don't group people, such insults are no big deal.

No those insults are a ###### big deal as they are personal. Not even your mum style personal but actually offensive personal. Yet ironically Pike went on and Cleo said nothing about this because they did not deem this offensive. That is the hypocrisy I cannot stand with these guys, who come on here with this sanctimonious attitude. Come here and pretend they want peace and serenity. Bullcrap, they want the old VJ moderation back, when comments like that would slide yet Natty would be suspended for understandably threatening Pike.

He said Natty was acting like a child. Natty was the one insulted, not his kids.

[Peikko 1,575]

I have the perfect example of this, for whatever reason Cleo is outraged over my use of gringo, when it was clearly in jest. Because she assumed it referred negatively to an entire group, apparently this is now worse than the holocaust. Hateful, offensive and so forth.

Yet strange how she had no issue with her buddy Pike referring to Natty's kids. Now I understand what pike meant but that is not the point. Natty was infuriated about his toddlers being used to mock him, which is perfectly understandable. Yet to Pike, Cleo, A.J and co, as long as you don't group people, such insults are no big deal.

No those insults are a ###### big deal as they are personal. Not even your mum style personal but actually offensive personal. Yet ironically Pike went on and Cleo said nothing about this because they did not deem this offensive. That is the hypocrisy I cannot stand with these guys, who come on here with this sanctimonious attitude. Come here and pretend they want peace and serenity. Bullcrap, they want the old VJ moderation back, when comments like that would slide yet Natty would be suspended for understandably threatening Pike.

This is you coming to VJ to engage in debate?

I really have no clue what you are going on about BY - I am not going to address your crazy accusations either.

[Heracles 417]

I really have no clue

At least you said it love.

[Peikko 1,575]

Well tell your mates to stop doing it and all is good.

That said, they have calmed down a lot over the last few months. Then again your new mate seems to be doing it quite a bit.

BY, I don't have any 'mates' (aside from Amby, who is either me or my daughter depending on who you talk to ) I post what I want to post, nothing more, nothing less - other posters do the same thing. When you stop holding me responsible for what other posters say and vice versa, most of your drama can disappear like magic.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Heracles 417]

He said Natty was acting like a child. Natty was the one insulted, not his kids.

Thanks for proving my point mate. Man you guys are stepping in it today.

When you deem something offensive, we should bow our heads down in shame and be banned. Yet getting personal is apaprently not the slightest offensive. Natty should just get over it right?

Hypocrite.

[Peikko 1,575]

At least you said it love.

Poignant debating point there BY, masterfully argued.

[Heracles 417]

Cleo, the issue I have with you is that you cannot accept or interpret data very well. No seriously

I do not sit there and scold some for things they say, but giggle when someone I like says the equivalent things to you guys; I have the same standards for all. I also understand that what may not be offensive to me, may be to others. This is an immigration forum after all, and there are people with various cultural backgrounds and so forth; which is why I don't cry about what is being said to me. The only time I will push back and hard is when ambushed.

Just because someone deems the millionth discussion about illegal aliens to be boring or offensives, does not make it offensive. Nor should it mean anyone has a right to disrupt the thread, let alone accuse us of being racists.

Most of all, stop with the selective outrage. Might want to ponder What's good for the goose is good for the gander, in this context.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles

[The_Dude 1,142]

this is what I mean...

Person 1: I like pink

Person 2: omfg you're a ######

Person 3: get out of this place, you're not welcome here, pink liker

Person 4: who the #### are you, idiot?

Person 1: but alll I said is I like pink?

1 week later

Person 2: I've decided I like pink

Person 1: now who's the ######?

Person 3: reported!

Person 4: reported!

Person 2: WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT THIS?!!!!!!!

Person 2: starts thread about nothing being done about the same thing they did to someone else a week ago

Amby, are you Person 1? if so, does this contradict your member title?

[Peikko 1,575]

Cleo, the issue I have with you is that you cannot accept or interpret data very well. No seriously

I do not sit there and scold some for things they say, but giggle when someone I like says the equivalent things to you guys; I have the same standards for all. I also understand that what may not be offensive to me, may be to others. This is an immigration forum after all, and there are people with various cultural backgrounds and so forth; which is why I don't cry about what is being said to me. The only time I will push back and hard is when ambushed.

Just because someone deems the millionth discussion about illegal aliens to be boring or offensives, does not make it offensive. Nor should it mean anyone has a right to disrupt the thread, let alone accuse us of being racists.

Most of all, stop with the selective outrage. Might want to ponder What's good for the goose is good for the gander, in this context.

You get very confused because you see people as some kind of collective - answering your posts becomes impossible - I am not part of any collective, I am responsible for what I post and only what I post - unless you get that, nothing you say to me will make any sense, period.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Heracles 417]

Amby, are you Person 1? if so, does this contradict your member title?

REPORT!

You get very confused because you see people as some kind of collective - answering your posts becomes impossible - I am not part of any collective, I am only responsible for what I post and only what I post - unless you get that, nothing you say to me will make any sense, period.

Correction Madame, I see people with lock-step Borg views as a collection.

[Peikko 1,575]

REPORT!

Correction Madame, I see people with lock-step Borg views as a collection.

As long as that remains the case, I have nothing to say to you as regards your accusations.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Amby 490]

Amby, are you Person 1? if so, does this contradict your member title?

and I thought I carefully picked pink so it wouldn't cause any laughter. I obviously was not thinking clearly.