Legacy Posters stirring trouble

[The_Dude 1,142]

The mangling of the English (American) language going on lately defies belief.

There are no "tenants" of VJ OT!!! Only visitors.

But "tenets"? Aye, there are a few of those. Being Snarky on a Sunday being up there among them.

OK, you caught me. But in my defense, I blame Stella Artois

[Kathryn41 3,205]

It would seem to me that members of a religion - let's take Mormons as an example to avoid being inflammatory - are a "group of people" and are "identified by a unifying characteristic" (their faith in the tenets of Mormonism).

The question really becomes, is a post intended to degrade them? Is there intent? How do you determine intent? I'd argue by past post history. If a poster has shown a history of being anti-Mormon, then you have intent. But is the content degrading? To degrade is to "bring to low esteem or into disrepute".

I don't know about you, but I don't see this standard being applied much at all.

We certainly attempt to apply it equally to all. If a comment isn't reported, then we probably don't attend to it, though, that is true. I wish there was a clear cut measuring stick that we could hold up to every post and every poster and say 'yep, over this line - fail' 'under this line - pass'. Oh, how I wish we had such a measuring stick!

Edited August 23, 2010 by Kathryn41

[Peikko 1,575]

It would seem to me that members of a religion - let's take Mormons as an example to avoid being inflammatory - are a "group of people" and are "identified by a unifying characteristic" (their faith in the tenets of Mormonism).

The question really becomes, is a post intended to degrade them? Is there intent? How do you determine intent? I'd argue by past post history. If a poster has shown a history of being anti-Mormon, then you have intent. But is the content degrading? To degrade is to "bring to low esteem or into disrepute".

I don't know about you, but I don't see this standard being applied much at all.

Bingo - I reported an example of this, the fist and last time I'll bother probably because no one appears to be able to discern a quite obvious pattern of behaviour judging by the action that was taken on the issue - nothing - unless the mods are still cogitating on the issue because it is so complex.

[Pooky 3,909]

OK, you caught me. But in my defense, I blame Stella Artois

Yeah, yeah, blame the French.

I would

Edited August 23, 2010 by Pooky

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We certainly attempt to apply it equally to all. If a comment isn't reported, then we probably don't attend to it, though, that is true. I wish there was a clear cut measuring stick that we could hold up to every post and every poster and say 'yep, over this line - fail' 'under this line - pass'. Oh, how I wish we had such a measuring stick!

Going forward, if a thread is intended to bring a certain religion into disrepute (i.e. degrade), I'll be sure to report it. After all, that is TOS.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Yeah, yeah, blame the French.

I would

OK, now that is your fail. Stella is Belgian.

[Peikko 1,575]

Going forward, if a thread is intended to bring a certain religion into disrepute (i.e. degrade), I'll be sure to report it. After all, that is TOS.

If you are referring to JAS and his blatant threads being used to discredit muslims, I already reported it. Nothing happened. Clearly this is not a TOS violation - I'm actually very disappointed.

[Pooky 3,909]

OK, now that is your fail. Stella is Belgian.

But all the Ads are in French, and the Walloon think the French half of Belgium really doesn't count as Belgian.

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If you are referring to JAS and his blatant threads being used to discredit muslims, I already reported it. Nothing happened. Clearly this is not a TOS violation - I'm actually very disappointed.

Perhaps the decision was made that those threads did not bring any groups of people with a unifying characteristic into disrepute.

[Peikko 1,575]

Perhaps the decision was made that those threads did not bring any groups of people with a unifying characteristic into disrepute.

Well, because it is not moderation policy to explain moderating decisions, I'll never know but this pattern of behaviour is so obvious that is the only other conclusion that can be drawn.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Peikko 1,575]

Judging by the high fives that BY is getting for his comments, I can only assume that there are a lot of people that either don't see things in terms of patterns of behaviour, or applaud this behaviour. I don't know why I expected something better, but I did.

[Pooky 3,909]

Judging by the high fives that BY is getting for his comments, I can only assume that there are a lot of people that either don't see things in terms of patterns of behaviour, or applaud this behaviour. I don't know why I expected something better, but I did.

Maybe some people think he has a point?

[Peikko 1,575]

Maybe some people think he has a point?

If you mean BY, I don't know, I find it really hard to make any sense of what he is saying when he is lumping members together in this big homogenous mass of posters who have done him wrong.

[Heracles 417]

Perhaps some of you have conveniently forgotten but the same group of members mentioned repetitively throughout this thread that are crying about what can or cannot be said, are the same lot that cried about the restriction of speech many months back. An argument headed up by your mate Scandal. One minute too much can be said, the next there is not enough freedom.

[Heracles 417]

If you mean BY, I don't know, I find it really hard to make any sense of what he is saying when he is lumping members together in this big homogenous mass of posters who have done him wrong.

Not that hard to grasp really. I am talking about the same group of old school posters that are complaining and constantly defending their mates posts, actions or latest scheme; yet damn those with differing views to the banned bin.

Most of our journeys are over, so let it go. Stop wasting the mods time with this bull #######. Stop trying to scheme to get Soffiya kicked, whom you now apparently love.

Basically stop creating drama.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Heracles