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Heracles
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There seems to be a lot of bitching and crying about the mods and VJ from those who have been on here for a while and basically don't agree with how VJ operates. This begets the questions, if certain

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Mox, I am somewhat in awe of how you can turn around an action you chose to make in direct violation of a TOS and try to justify that choice by saying someone else is to blame. We are each of us resp

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Your doing it again pike and proving me right. For whatever reasons, you have a complex with people who are nothing like you having an opinion. Next you are going to report me for hate or racism bec

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No it's now actually. Every second day either Cleo, A.J, Scandal or yourself have some issue with the moderation. Which, yet gain, warrants the question, if you have such a beef with it or the site, why do you guys camp out on here? Furthermore, why should VJ ban members you or your mates dislike, simply because they have an opinion about something you do not agree with or YOU deem offensive? For example, just because you feel discussing illegal immigration is irrelevant, should not mean any posters who do care are promoting hate, racism or bigotry; which is your answer to everything.

Judging by the systemic - almost planned - show you guys are putting on weekly and have put on for months on here, EP and in private, you are clearly trying to pull the old the squeakiest wheel gets the most attention.

I view this post as a personal attack.

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What are you asking the site admin to do?

Get rid of anyone who holds grudges from five years ago. Get rid of anyone who cannot enter a new thread with a clean slate; rather, prefers to carry over opinions of posters from five years ago. How is that?

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Get rid of anyone who holds grudges from five years ago. Get rid of anyone who cannot enter a new thread with a clean slate; rather, prefers to carry over opinions of posters from five years ago. How is that?

Do you really think that is going to happen? Especially in light of your performance today?

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Get rid of anyone who holds grudges from five years ago. Get rid of anyone who cannot enter a new thread with a clean slate; rather, prefers to carry over opinions of posters from five years ago. How is that?

You're really embarrassed about all the stuff you said five years ago, aren't you?

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Do you really think that is going to happen? Especially in light of your performance today?

Thanks as it was a great performance. The gringo one is going down in history. How ironic that using the past would prove a point and flat-out discredit a baseless accusation.

In your case, your own posts in this thread discredit you. Everything I accuse you and you mates of doing, you come here and do it again. At least stay out of the thread to attempt to prove me wrong, rather than proving me right.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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There seems to be a lot of bitching and crying about the mods and VJ from those who have been on here for a while and basically don't agree with how VJ operates. This begets the questions, if certain [particular] posters have such an issue, why not just move on or ask them to move on? Why continue to drag down VJ because they are not satisfied with the moderation or VJ?

While I am on here, I play by VJ's rules [TOS] per say. I don't expect an immigration forum let alone EWOK to continually waste their time and energy with [school-yard] personal beefs about the insignificant OT section.

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It's also no coincidence that since certain posters that have the same ideological views as the aforementioned have left the forum entirely, things have been much calmer.

Your question, which basically amounts to "if you don't like it, then go somewhere else" is a logical fallacy that assumes a black and white condition. What's wrong with people seeing an issue and trying to make change? That's certainly a better option than just leaving, don't you think?

It's nice that you play by VJ's rules...I play by VJ's rules too, and yet I was suspended not for playing against the rules, but because a moderator didn't like what I had to say. (some clever induhvidual might step in to say I was technically suspended for re-opening a closed thread, but that would be a very narrow interpretation of the event.) The problem here is that when personal feelings creep into it, the entire site suffers. I don't want to see VJ crumble, and I don't think you do either. And hey, it's fine if you disagree with *anyone*, the ranters, the mods, Ewok, me, whoever. But you're being disingenuous when you invite those of us who think there are BIG problems to just leave.

I also do not waste my time holding grudges against any posters nor what they said five years ago. Let alone bring it up every opportunity I can, to basically flame a discussion. It's quite evident that the same posters who regularly cry foul about something they deem offensive or dislike, are the same posters who are antagonistic or the instigators.

I could say the same thing who support the moderators no matter what. These Pollyanna rose-colored retina wearing folk who just want us to all get along, and don't mind if it takes some jack boots and tazers to do it. So it's all a matter of perspective. "Love it or leave it" might have a catchy ring to it, but it's a fallacy and I wish we could move past it.

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Get rid of anyone who holds grudges from five years ago. Get rid of anyone who cannot enter a new thread with a clean slate; rather, prefers to carry over opinions of posters from five years ago. How is that?

shouldn't you hold yourself to the same standards?

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I don't think VJ is in any danger of crumbling. If anything, I can see Ewok shutting down OT. It wouldn't be a big loss to the site.

bwwajdt? but what would aj do then?

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USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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Thanks as it was a great performance. The gringo one is going down in history. How ironic that using the past would prove a point and flat-out discredit a baseless accusation.

In your case, your own posts in this thread discredit you. Everything I accuse you and you mates of doing, you come here and do it again. At least stay out of the thread to attempt to prove me wrong, rather than proving me right.

You made a bunch of accusations, cried about how you've been victimised and then did what you accuse me of doing. Why - I've no idea, but it's quite obvious.

shouldn't you hold yourself to the same standards?

Bingo.

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