Legacy Posters stirring trouble

[Heracles 417]

There seems to be a lot of bitching and crying about the mods and VJ from those who have been on here for a while and basically don't agree with how VJ operates. This begets the questions, if certain [particular] posters have such an issue, why not just move on or ask them to move on? Why continue to drag down VJ because they are not satisfied with the moderation or VJ?

While I am on here, I play by VJ's rules [TOS] per say. I don't expect an immigration forum let alone EWOK to continually waste their time and energy with [school-yard] personal beefs about the insignificant OT section.

I also do not waste my time holding grudges against any posters nor what they said five years ago. Let alone bring it up every opportunity I can, to basically flame a discussion. It's quite evident that the same posters who regularly cry foul about something they deem offensive or dislike, are the same posters who are antagonistic or the instigators.

It's also no coincidence that since certain posters that have the same ideological views as the aforementioned have left the forum entirely, things have been much calmer.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Heracles

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think it's kind of ironic that you're saying this in light of the fact that you've tried to hijack two threads in the site related discussion forum with personal attacks and what are obvious personal grudges. Not only that but you've tried to shoehorn in your favourite discussion about race and crime.

What is it you're trying to convince people of?

[ValerieA 350]

Wouldn't this thread fall in the category of a legacy member stirring up trouble?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yes

[TracyTN 237]

Why not just name names?

[Darnell 8,478]

There seems to be a lot of bitching and crying about the mods and VJ from those who have been on here for a while and basically don't agree with how VJ operates. This begets the questions, if certain [particular] posters have such an issue, why not just move on or ask them to move on? Why continue to drag down VJ because they are not satisfied with the moderation or VJ?

While I am on here, I play by VJ's rules [TOS] per say. I don't expect an immigration forum let alone EWOK to continually waste their time and energy with [school-yard] personal beefs about the insignificant OT section.

I also do not waste my time holding grudges against any posters nor what they said five years ago. Let alone bring it up every opportunity I can, to basically flame a discussion. It's quite evident that the same posters who regularly cry foul about something they deem offensive or dislike, are the same posters who are antagonistic or the instigators.

It's also no coincidence that since certain posters that have the same ideological views as the aforementioned have left the forum entirely, things have been much calmer.

I do hope, that 'going forward' - yer able to adopt a different stance , as compared to first quarter of 2010. If that's not the case, if indeed is 'business as usual' for you, then you fall into your category of 'legacy posters'.

I do hope you understand the difference between per say and literal word usage, when thinking about the Terms of Service document.

You could, of course, branch out a bit, yes? Answer some questions in the upper IMMIGRATION forums.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Darnell

[Heracles 417]

I think it's kind of ironic that you're saying this in light of the fact that you've tried to hijack two threads in the site related discussion forum with personal attacks and what are obvious personal grudges. Not only that but you've tried to shoehorn in your favourite discussion about race and crime.

What is it you're trying to convince people of?

Hence why I created the thread. I am not the one who constantly bitches about others opinions and topics they discuss. For example, you don't agree with Peejay on immigration, then either discuss the topic or don't participate. It certainly does not warrant you entering his thread and attacking him for his views, let alone calling him a racist of a bigot, simply because you personally deem the discussion on illegals and who makes up the largest portion as being hate.

I think it's about time you bring something up I said in 05 again. I am sure in 10 years you will still be here bringing up up what Paul said ten years ago.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

BY, why are you going out of your way to hijack threads with your own personal grudges and then accuse others if doing it?

[Heracles 417]

I do hope, that 'going forward' - yer able to adopt a different stance , as compared to first quarter of 2010. If that's not the case, if indeed is 'business as usual' for you, then you fall into your category of 'legacy posters'.

I do hope you understand the difference between per say and literal word usage, when thinking about the Terms of Service document.

You could, of course, branch out a bit, yes? Answer some questions in the upper IMMIGRATION forums.

I follow the rules to the tee. When I don't, I get punished for it, fair enough.

What I don't do is demand the forum cater to my sensitivity or ideology regarding what I deem hate or not. I know when I have crossed the line and I know when I have not. When I do cross the line, it's usually in response to personal insults directed at me. Seldom have I ever entered a thread for the sole reason of attacking posters I dislike.

The biggest issue dating back to the beginning of my time on VJ is the same legacy members who still assume that when they disagree with someone, they have the right to insult or berate them personally.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You have this idealized image of yourself, BY. It just isn't the reality.

Anyone who has spent any time on here knows better, including the mods.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[Heracles 417]

Your doing it again pike and proving me right. For whatever reasons, you have a complex with people who are nothing like you having an opinion.

Next you are going to report me for hate or racism because I disagree with you.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Heracles

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What does it prove? You have a personal issue with a number of posters who have been in less trouble with the mods/admin than you.

What is the purpose of this thread? All you're doing is crying about being picked on, then pulling out random non-specific accusations. It just isn't credible.

[Heracles 417]

What does it prove? You have a personal issue with a number of posters who have been in less trouble with the mods/admin than you.

Is that the same mods you and your buds personally ridicule?

Do you think this has anything to do with the reality that the reporting ratio of libs vs conservatives is probably about 100 to 1. Or as stated across three threads now, you have no problem with personal insults whatsoever; something most conservatives would not waste their time reporting.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Heracles

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You insist on wanting to make this personal. Oh well.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So far - the only person making personal attacks is you. You're also the one attempting to hijacking threads just so you can have an argument. It's very obvious what you're doing.