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They are upgarding th current one or making the current one bigger. They are building a new center with a larger mosque in it.

To insinuate what i might see in a muslim on the street based on their clothes is insulting and idiotic; not all muslims dress the same and not all muslims were the muslim clothing. What I do see in your speech is your blind ignorance and ignoring of the issue of where the money for this comes from. Do you deny where it comes from and who is supporting this internationally (not nationally) that is were yours and most argur,emts like yours fails epically. Why freeze money of known terroist organizations and supporters in the USA and yet allow it to flow freely for this project.

If you want to build the mosque do so with clean money or prove that it is clean.

Sodiyya I know this and I have not dismissed your arguement nor the right for you to practice your religeon.

The arguement in case from my perspective and in order of importance 1. Where is the money coming from 2. why build it here and so close when another already exists closer and in the same area 3. Why a completion date of 9/11

Deny any, part or all of the funding come from Saudi Arabia? I don't confirm or deny it, I have no idea. Regardless, I don't care that much one way or another unless the money is illegal in some way, is it? This is more of the same shite, that muslims are all in cahoots with terrorism by lame association with this or that conspiracy theory. They are not, and the suggestion that they are is repugnant.

I didn't ask if you were able to identify muslims without their being kind enough to do it for us, I asked you if when you see a mosque or a muslim you immediately picture terrorists - you didn't answer so I am left to jump to conclusions - they are not pretty ones.

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I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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Sodiyya I know this and I have not dismissed your arguement nor the right for you to practice your religeon.

The arguement in case from my perspective and in order of importance 1. Where is the money coming from 2. why build it here and so close when another already exists closer and in the same area 3. Why a completion date of 9/11

It's not so close, and it's been a mosque for nearly a year already. The other mosques are overcrowded and have to turn away worshippers. The money, when there is some, will be throughly scrutinized, no doubt.

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it doesn't matter why they want to build one, the fact is that they do, and it's only disturbing if you believe that mosques have no place near ground zero because they are intrinsically offensive. They are not. They do not represent anything ghastly, they are just places of worship.

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it doesn't matter why they want to build one, the fact is that they do, and it's only disturbing if you believe that mosques have no place near ground zero because they are intrinsically offensive. They are not. They do not represent anything ghastly, they are just places of worship.

and the answer to #1 Where is the Money coming from?

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and the answer to #1 Where is the Money coming from?

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night cleo and soff and everyone else I need to sleep have an early day and a long trip home. I will try to post at the airport if I get a chance.

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I already said, as long as they come by it legally, I don't care where it comes from.

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JAS, you should be careful when endorsing Muslim "rebels" because they usually turn out to be lying self-promoters who set up shop post 9/11 making a very lucrative living on the lecture circuit by appeasing Muslim/Islam haters. Muslims know what posers they are, but the Christian Right laps them up and fills their coffers to over flowing.

It is always fascinating that you, proclaimer always that Islam is a religion of peace, ruthlessly deny anyone claiming to be a Muslim or former Muslim who has a view contrary to yours is not or never was truly a Muslim. That is a narrow view of religious freedom our nation can do without. Tolerance for others opinions? Please!

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It's not so close, and it's been a mosque for nearly a year already. The other mosques are overcrowded and have to turn away worshippers. The money, when there is some, will be throughly scrutinized, no doubt.

Not so close? The building was struck by landing gear from one of the planes crashing in to the Twin Towers.

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Not so close? The building was struck by landing gear from one of the planes crashing in to the Twin Towers.

At the speed the jets were flying, any debris could have drifted for miles from the fallen buildings.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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Yes it is offensive that you ignore a person of the islamic faith and their support of the mosque not being built.

No one said there weren't muslims that died on 9/11 but is said it was a terrorist attack by islamic extremists.

So you discredit a muslim speaking out in his view?

I didn't ignore anyone, I just don't agree with him. And there are plenty of Muslims on VJ who do too. His view has no greater importance than any other.

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It is always fascinating that you, proclaimer always that Islam is a religion of peace, ruthlessly deny anyone claiming to be a Muslim or former Muslim who has a view contrary to yours is not or never was truly a Muslim. That is a narrow view of religious freedom our nation can do without. Tolerance for others opinions? Please!

If you're so tolerant of opinions, but Im not, why are you challenging mine? Please! Islam is not synonymous with nor defined by random opinions.

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At the speed the jets were flying, any debris could have drifted for miles from the fallen buildings.

Landing gear is a reasonably heavy form of 'debry.' A large debate has been had with snarky demands to come up with a reasonable length to determine a tasteful distance which has proved difficult to answer. However 'inside the circumference of actual large portions of plane parts, for example the landing gear' would define both a 'tasteful' distance as well as a verifiable factoid to refute the 'it ain't close to Ground Zero/Sacred Hole' claptrap. Sacred Hole (or something similar, crippled by my iPod) being the sensitive Muslim moniker for Ground Zero apparently.

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Landing gear is a reasonably heavy form of 'debry.' A large debate has been had with snarky demands to come up with a reasonable length to determine a tasteful distance which has proved difficult to answer. However 'inside the circumference of actual large portions of plane parts, for example the landing gear' would define both a 'tasteful' distance as well as a verifiable factoid to refute the 'it ain't close to Ground Zero/Sacred Hole' claptrap. Sacred Hole (or something similar, crippled by my iPod) being the sensitive Muslim moniker for Ground Zero apparently.

I think I asked you a personal question elsewhere about your complete opposition and bad sentiment that has obviously rubbed off on all of Islam. PM me if you wish your reasons.

Fact of the matter is, that debris could have not existed at all, 9/11 could not have happened at all, and we'd still see people fighting Mosque building and other things about that religion that may seem disagreeable, on their bigotry alone.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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Landing gear is a reasonably heavy form of 'debry.' A large debate has been had with snarky demands to come up with a reasonable length to determine a tasteful distance which has proved difficult to answer. However 'inside the circumference of actual large portions of plane parts, for example the landing gear' would define both a 'tasteful' distance as well as a verifiable factoid to refute the 'it ain't close to Ground Zero/Sacred Hole' claptrap. Sacred Hole (or something similar, crippled by my iPod) being the sensitive Muslim moniker for Ground Zero apparently.

Is your argument that nothing that is within this 'taste' circle should remind victims and families of victims of the atrocities of 9/11? Surely that puts paid to the notion of a memorial and ground zero is counterproductive?

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I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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Another fact is:

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And by Newton's Second Law:

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where the force of that object stays proportional to the derivative of its momentum (mass multiplied times velocity).

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

 

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