Muslim worker demands to wear head scarf with costume

[sandinista! 1,816]

I didn't say Butkus but if the next employee claims a right to wear one on religious freedom grounds I will again support Disney's right to say "Not while working here."

What is the theme of this particular restaurant? If it was Return to Jafar your rancid red herring might smell better too.

the burkha part was in response to darnell. vj's quote thing sucks when yr responding to multiple posts, it gets all knackered

[Obama 2012 1,714]

no, they've become the new person being discriminated against, and therefore are having to fight for their due rights. rights that exist despite vicious bigots like yourself getting all pissy about it.

too funny.

The 'intolerant' ones are always the ones who don't bow down to religious views. They are never the ones who impose their views on others.

Edited August 20, 2010 by Paul and Vanessa

[ready4ONE 5,400]

the burkha part was in response to darnell. vj's quote thing sucks when yr responding to multiple posts, it gets all knackered

Worse still my iPods handy spell checker turned burqua into Butkus! Yikes!

[sandinista! 1,816]

Indeed there is.

As I said... I do not see as an imposition, that which does not affect the viewers as they are not obligated to wear anything in those cases. I do find it fishy how some deny their patterned bigotry behind arguments that are actually quite logical due to their having been in place for decades. What changes is the society we live in, and that really irks many bigots into being irritable beyond your wildest dreams. Unless they are not really bigots and are merely traumatized... and that I can understand... yet I do not think there would be that many victims around and even if there were- not all would use hate as their mechanism of expressing their disagreement with an entire religion.

i agree. particularly in the alamo case, the woman who had been working for alamo since 1999 had worn her scarf only during ramadan for 2 years running. then 9/11 happened. and then they didn't want to let her wear it anymore during ramadan while working up front with customers.

as if the two have something to do with each other

[Heracles 417]

no, they've become the new person being discriminated against, and therefore are having to fight for their due rights. rights that exist despite vicious bigots like yourself getting all pissy about it.

Why should we have to change our way of life to cater for them? What percentage of Muslim countries are accommodating to the cultures and norms of others?

Don't even attempt to compare this to segregation.

[sandinista! 1,816]

Worse still my iPods handy spell checker turned burqua into Butkus! Yikes!

i'm familiar with bupkes...but i got no idea what butkus is!

Why should we have to change our way of life to cater for them? What percentage of Muslim countries are accommodating to the cultures and norms of others?

Don't even attempt to compare this to segregation.

because of that pesky constitution you hate so much. that has ** all to do with anything that goes on in any muslim country anywhere. we're talking about the us. not anywhere else.

[Heracles 417]

i agree. particularly in the alamo case, the woman who had been working for alamo since 1999 had worn her scarf only during ramadan for 2 years running. then 9/11 happened. and then they didn't want to let her wear it anymore during ramadan while working up front with customers.

as if the two have something to do with each other

Alamo is a completely different ball game to Disney's costume and theme. As pointed out earlier, where does it stop? What happens when someone says I want to wear a Burqa and work at Disney?

[HAL 9000 96]

too funny.

The 'intolerant' ones are always the ones who don't bow down to religious views. They are never the ones who impose their views on others.

How are others being imposed upon Paul? Just curious. Imposition would be what? Being forced to see other people wearing headscarves? Oh the horror and injustice...

Same argument is used against homosexual marriage rights. You'd almost think that us heterosexuals would be imposed to watch gays doing it or something.

Again... she agreed to work under those conditions... her focus should be elsewhere, even though as sandinista! points out... there's already some precedent covering religious protections under the constitution. Maybe some people don't like that on grounds that it makes them very uncomfortable to see different people wearing different things.

Worse still my iPods handy spell checker turned burqua into Butkus! Yikes!

####### Butkus will be watching you now.

[Darnell 8,478]

i'm familiar with bupkes...but i got no idea what butkus is!

I was in a Syrian-flavoured shop last week in Houston, bought some (I kid you not) yoghurt, the brand was 'Butkus'.

[sandinista! 1,816]

Alamo is a completely different ball game to Disney's costume and theme. As pointed out earlier, where does it stop? What happens when someone says I want to wear a Burqa and work at Disney?

if you would actually read the thread before participating you would see that the burqa issue has already been discussed. i mentioned already that the woman who wanted to wear one in a pediatrician's office was ruled against. because it prohibited her from functioning in her job capacity. a restaurant hostess in a headscarf does not meet that burden at all.

[HAL 9000 96]

i agree. particularly in the alamo case, the woman who had been working for alamo since 1999 had worn her scarf only during ramadan for 2 years running. then 9/11 happened. and then they didn't want to let her wear it anymore during ramadan while working up front with customers.

as if the two have something to do with each other

Ahhh... context always is the killer huh?

9/11 happened and reasonable people became paranoid. This is how GWB won in 2004.

Alamo is a completely different ball game to Disney's costume and theme. As pointed out earlier, where does it stop? What happens when someone says I want to wear a Burqa and work at Disney?

slip slip slip

What is Disney's theme btw?

[Peikko 1,575]

In other parts of the world adherents to the same religion demand the right to stone adulterers so will you argue this strongly to support their religious freedom should they move to the USA? Get a grip this gal had the job for 2.5 years without demanding her right to wear a headscarf and Allah does not appear to have smite her for blasphemy.

Get a grip? You seem to have entirely lost your grip on reality - why would I support stoning, even if it were a tenet of the muslim religion, which I'll add it is not, it's a practice rooted in Judaism as it happens; but regardless, what on earth leads you to that conclusion? I do not personally hold with the practice of wearing headscarves as an expression of modesty, it really is an irrelevance, but that said, if someone believes that it is necessary for their faith, and that faith is protected by the freedom to practice ones faith within certain well defined boundaries, what does it matter what I hold with? We all know where those boundaries really lie, and that is when the practice of one's religion adversely effects someone who does not share that belief - wearing a headscarf does not come even close.

[Heracles 417]

because of that pesky constitution you hate so much. that has ** all to do with anything that goes on in any muslim country anywhere. we're talking about the us. not anywhere else.

Once again, why should I or anyone be forced to bend over backwards to cater for strict others unique nuances?

[sandinista! 1,816]

I was in a Syrian-flavoured shop last week in Houston, bought some (I kid you not) yoghurt, the brand was 'Butkus'.

awesome.

[HAL 9000 96]

And crucifixion was invented by the Phoenicians.

How are others being imposed upon Paul? Just curious. Imposition would be what? Being forced to see other people wearing headscarves? Oh the horror and injustice...

Same argument is used against homosexual marriage rights. You'd almost think that us heterosexuals would be imposed to watch gays doing it or something.

Again... she agreed to work under those conditions... her focus should be elsewhere, even though as sandinista! points out... there's already some precedent covering religious protections under the constitution. Maybe some people don't like that on grounds that it makes them very uncomfortable to see different people wearing different things.

####### Butkus will be watching you now.

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