Why would the Sierra Club oppose a power line upgrade?

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so you love coal, doncha?

i have absolutely no problem with coal. we have a ton of it and as we've been told, waste is evil.

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you get the tax revenues.

and besides, do you feel the same way about agriculture? large scale agriculture does a real number on ecosystems, do you mind that seeing how we city folk eat most of the food?

tax revenues hardly make up for the pollution, the traffic congestion, and so on.

what do you define as large scale agriculture? and speaking of city folk eating, what's for lunch today?

i have absolutely no problem with coal. we have a ton of it and as we've been told, waste is evil.

expect steven to protest on your doorstep this weekend.

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tax revenues hardly make up for the pollution, the traffic congestion, and so on.

what do you define as large scale agriculture? and speaking of city folk eating, what's for lunch today?

expect steven to protest on your doorstep this weekend.

eggplant rollatini. good chit.

as for large scale agro - google up impact on ecologies. lots of material out there.

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eggplant rollatini. good chit.

as for large scale agro - google up impact on ecologies. lots of material out there.

eggplant.........barf. i don't know you anymore!

oh darn, more bad news. you city peeps gonna have to grow your own food too! we can't have any of that ecological impact going on here!

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eggplant is good sometimes. Edited August 18, 2010 by Legacy member

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as for large scale agro - google up impact on ecologies. lots of material out there.

From a practical point of view, it is easier to mediate and control environmental effects when production is consolidated and standardized in large scale corporate chunks, than when it becomes decentralized. As an example, see what an environmental disaster mom and pop biofuel production has become.

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From a practical point of view, it is easier to mediate and control environmental effects when production is consolidated and standardized in large scale corporate chunks, than when it becomes decentralized. As an example, see what an environmental disaster mom and pop biofuel production has become.

How do you feel about the trend among wealthy urban yuppies to pretend their lifestyle doesn't otherwise harm the environment by cultivating so-called 'urban farms'?

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How do you feel about the trend among wealthy urban yuppies to pretend their lifestyle doesn't otherwise harm the environment by cultivating so-called 'urban farms'?

Sorta related. Having your street facing roof covered with solar panels has now become the new status symbol. I wonder if they come in any color besides cobalt blue.

Backyard farms could be done in a safe and sane manner, but best intentions aside, things happen, and go unnoticed, when nobody is really paying attention.

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Backyard farms could be done in a safe and sane manner, but best intentions aside, things happen, and go unnoticed, when nobody is really paying attention.

Not just backyard farms, but rooftop farms. Have you seen those?

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Not just backyard farms, but rooftop farms. Have you seen those?

Only on TV, but not really on a large scale. At least they are not dumping stuff directly on terra firma. Besides, any runoff they produce competes with everything else that is going down the storm drains. That can be monitored without that much effort.

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Only on TV, but not really on a large scale. At least they are not dumping stuff directly on terra firma. Besides, any runoff they produce competes with everything else that is going down the storm drains. That can be monitored without that much effort.

I suspect you are speaking of stuff you know well. I've only read about this ish in books My work life has nada to do with ecology or land management.

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Sorta related. Having your street facing roof covered with solar panels has now become the new status symbol. I wonder if they come in any color besides cobalt blue.

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Once in place, the sun’s warmth helps bond shingles together forming a weather-resistant seal.

So if it suddenly gets cloudy for a few days right after installation, the owner is f-d?

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I suspect you are speaking of stuff you know well. I've only read about this ish in books My work life has nada to do with ecology or land management.

This is an ag county, so I get exposed to this stuff in the course of my daily travels.

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This is an ag county, so I get exposed to this stuff in the course of my daily travels.

What county is that, if you don't mind me asking?