Captain Ewok - an idea to help with moderation

[Nik+Heather 121]

It's not a FIRST resort. Just a few posts up, Ewok says, warning first, button pushing second. The problem is that people making posts which cause the thread to be locked or to get suspended IGNORE the warnings. As Dodi says arbitration/mediation only works when people are willing to come to the table. Instead, when someone says that a comment was a little over the top, there isn't any reasonable response, rather "You can't censor me!!!"/"Lighten up" etc.

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I'm pleased with the idea.

BUT I still think moderators need to be less trigger-happy.

I don't know if you're aware of what was happening last night which triggered this idea. Poster A was going on and on making one bigoted statement after another. One or more posters reported him, Kathryn took action by removing the bigoted content from the thread. Meanwhile, Poster B flamed him a little and corrected him on some of his claims. Poster B was suspended for two days by Kathryn, presumably for a personal attack on Poster A. Meanwhile, Poster A merely had his content removed but his posting abilities remained (as of last night) intact.

There is simply too much variability in outcomes, which really hurts the credibility of VJ moderation.

[mox 298]

I don't know if you're aware of what was happening last night which triggered this idea. Poster A was going on and on making one bigoted statement after another. One or more posters reported him, Kathryn took action by removing the bigoted content from the thread. Meanwhile, Poster B flamed him a little and corrected him on some of his claims. Poster B was suspended for two days by Kathryn, presumably for a personal attack on Poster A. Meanwhile, Poster A merely had his content removed but his posting abilities remained (as of last night) intact.

There is simply too much variability in outcomes, which really hurts the credibility of VJ moderation.

I'm guessing this happened in OT?

Sure would be nice if OT had an actual TOS, instead of the nebulous "loosely enforced" guidelines. It would make life easier on mods as well as members.

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I'm guessing this happened in OT?

si man

[William33 110]

I don't know if you're aware of what was happening last night which triggered this idea. Poster A was going on and on making one bigoted statement after another. One or more posters reported him, Kathryn took action by removing the bigoted content from the thread. Meanwhile, Poster B flamed him a little and corrected him on some of his claims. Poster B was suspended for two days by Kathryn, presumably for a personal attack on Poster A. Meanwhile, Poster A merely had his content removed but his posting abilities remained (as of last night) intact.

There is simply too much variability in outcomes, which really hurts the credibility of VJ moderation.

Talk about variability AJ? You have speculated quite a bit here.

An excellent read though...

[mox 298]

Talk about variability AJ? You have speculated quite a bit here.

An excellent read though...

So instead of participating in what has up to this point been a civil conversation, you choose to bait.

Ladies and gentlemen, your Visa Journey moderating team.

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Talk about variability AJ? You have speculated quite a bit here.

Poster A and B are real. A did have his content removed for bigotry by Kathryn. B did flame A and B did correct A. B is now suspended. Those are facts.

The speculation is that A was not suspended. This speculation is based on the fact that he was still posting shortly after the offending posts were removed.

Edited August 18, 2010 by Legacy member

[William33 110]

So instead of participating in what has up to this point been a civil conversation, you choose to bait.

Ladies and gentlemen, your Visa Journey moderating team.

Um no Mox. I simply pointed out that he does not have all the facts. Period.

Don't stir trouble again today.

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So instead of participating in what has up to this point been a civil conversation, you choose to bait.

Ladies and gentlemen, your Visa Journey moderating team.

no kidding. A few days ago it was Brad essentially telling me I had no life. Which is probably true but not exactly a mod-like thing to say.

Um no Mox. I simply pointed out that he does not have all the facts. Period.

In the absence of you filling the community in, we will take the facts we have and construct a narrative around it. That's how it's done.

Edited August 18, 2010 by Legacy member

[mox 298]

William33, if you have a problem with me, you are welcome to escalate to Ewok. There is a little report button on the side of my posts, and also a ticketing system.

You're the one causing trouble here. The thread was civil until you decided to bait AJ. You do understand that baiting violates the TOS, don't you?

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You're the one causing trouble here. The thread was civil until you decided to bait AJ. You do understand that baiting violates the TOS, don't you?

It's still civil because we've taken the higher road here and refused to stoop to William's level.

[mox 298]

no kidding. A few days ago it was Brad essentially telling me I had no life. Which is probably true but not exactly a mod-like thing to say.

Do give Brad a chance though, he really is a good guy, and he did admit to the mistake. I suspect he's going to turn out to be the "go-to" moderator of choice once he gets his sea legs.

[William33 110]

William33, if you have a problem with me, you are welcome to escalate to Ewok. There is a little report button on the side of my posts, and also a ticketing system.

You're the one causing trouble here. The thread was civil until you decided to bait AJ. You do understand that baiting violates the TOS, don't you?

This is your official warning to stop your attempt at antagonizing.

[mox 298]

Do your worst William. It just proves my point. We were having a civil conversation, and you came in here for no other reason than to bait. So knock yourself out.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Poster A and B are real. A did have his content removed for bigotry by Kathryn. B did flame A and B did correct A. B is now suspended. Those are facts.

The speculation is that A was not suspended. This speculation is based on the fact that he was still posting shortly after the offending posts were removed.

i think what william is saying is this part is something you're speculating on: Poster B was suspended for two days by Kathryn