On Facebook: Israeli soldier posed with bound Arab

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

LIsten to what you are saying.

IMagine you are apprehended and hand cuffed (for what ever reason), someone stands near you and someone else snaps a picture.

In your mind you consider this abuse and humiliation? If so you have had a very very soft life.

If I were captured on the battle field or arrested, I would think someone snapping my picture as meaningless.

As for the whole Israelis / Palestinian thing..... thats a separate issue.

The pictures above look quite deliberate. To me.

[zqt3344 21]

Well at least she did not cut off his ####### or his head like an Arab would do to a westerner!

JERUSALEM – A former Israeli soldier posted photos on Facebook of herself in uniform smiling beside bound and blindfolded Palestinian prisoners, drawing sharp criticism Monday from the Israeli military and Palestinian officials.

Israeli news websites and blogs showed two photographs of the woman. In one, she is sitting legs crossed beside a blindfolded Palestinian man who is slumped against a concrete barrier. His face is turned downwards, while she leans toward him with her face upturned. Another shows her smiling at the camera with three Palestinian men with bound hands and blindfolds behind her.

The incident was a reminder of the fraught relations between Israeli soldiers and the West Bank Palestinians under their control.

Israeli soldiers have run into trouble on the social media sites like Facebook and YouTube before. Most recently a group of combat soldiers were reprimanded for breaking into choreographed dance moves while on patrol in the West Bank town of Hebron. The dance featured prominently on YouTube.

Palestinian Authority spokesman Ghassan Khatib condemned the photos and said they pointed to a deeper malaise — how Israel's 43-year-old occupation of Palestinians has affected the Israelis who enforce it.

"This shows the mentality of the occupier," Khatib said, "to be proud of humiliating Palestinians. The occupation is unjust, immoral and, as these pictures show, corrupting."

The Israeli military also criticized the young woman, who Israeli news media and bloggers identified from her Facebook page as Eden Aberjil of the southern Israeli port town of Ashdod. No official confirmed her identity.

"These are disgraceful photos," said Capt. Barak Raz, an Israeli military spokesman. "Aside from matters of information security, we are talking about a serious violation of our morals and our ethical code and should this soldier be serving in active duty today, I would imagine that no doubt she would be court-martialed immediately," he told Associated Press Television News.

It was not clear whether the army could punish the woman, because she has finished her compulsory military service.

The comments by the woman and her friend in an exchange below one photograph suggested how casually the picture was treated, including jokes and sexual innuendoes.

"You're the sexiest like that," her friend wrote.

"I wonder if he's got Facebook!" the woman in the photograph responded. "I have to tag him in the picture!"

Aberjil did not respond to reporters' questions Monday.

The photographs were a reminder of snapshots taken in 2003 by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq that showed Iraqi detainees naked, humiliated and terrified. In that case, some soldiers went to prison after the photos came to light.

The photographs of the Israeli soldier and the Palestinians, by contrast, show no overt physical abuse or coercion of the prisoners, although they are ridiculed in the comments between the soldier and her friends.

Palestinians are routinely handcuffed and blindfolded when they are arrested to stop them from trying to flee.

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Would we give a dam if those men had just tried blowing up a elementary school? I wonder what there crime was?

[Eddyy 5]

Somebody here hates muslims: )Tsk, tsk hating is bad...

[_Simpson_ 250]

You must be the only player then. This is not the first time you fall into your own hole, btw...

Good grief Hal I asked you a simply question and you had to make it difficult. You had to get all serious and over the top, like were the court of law handing down a punishment. I gave a quick easy clear answer. Based on what we know I think a few laps in the yard and a warning would be sufficient.

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It's only "harmless" if you don't stop to consider what those pictures represent - an abusive mindset where it is OK to humiliate people in your power.

I think that that the occupation of the Palestinian territories corrupts and dehumanises both Israelis and Palestinians alike. This is an example of it.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

It's only "harmless" if you don't stop to consider what those pictures represent - an abusive mindset where it is OK to humiliate people in your power.

I think that that the occupation of the Palestinian territories corrupts and dehumanises both Israelis and Palestinians alike. This is an example of it.

Hmmmmmmmmm their blind folded.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

They're.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

They're.

Scrabble.

[HAL 9000 96]

Good grief Hal I asked you a simply question and you had to make it difficult. You had to get all serious and over the top, like were the court of law handing down a punishment. I gave a quick easy clear answer. Based on what we know I think a few laps in the yard and a warning would be sufficient.

Usually these matters are dealt by courts of law because they involve more than what random posters on internet message boards feel should be fitting punishments without having any appropriate basis for forming such 'judgements.' If you can't get that they yes, you certainly are playing all by yourself.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

LIsten to what you are saying.

IMagine you are apprehended and hand cuffed (for what ever reason), someone stands near you and someone else snaps a picture.

In your mind you consider this abuse and humiliation? If so you have had a very very soft life.

If I were captured on the battle field or arrested, I would think someone snapping my picture as meaningless.

As for the whole Israelis / Palestinian thing..... thats a separate issue.

It's not abu ghraib, but I wonder if those men had the choice to have those pictures taken and whether they have permission to have them uploaded to a social networking site.

Just because they didn't have their photos taken while naked and forced to simulate sex acts with other male prisoners does not mean that these photos are not degrading and humiliating. The intent behind the pictures is obviously to use them as figures of fun for the amusement of the soldier and her Facebook friends.

Yes, that IS humiliation.

[_Simpson_ 250]

They're.

He makes a good point and you attack his grammar, how typical.

Usually these matters are dealt by courts of law because they involve more than what random posters on internet message boards feel should be fitting punishments without having any appropriate basis for forming such 'judgements.' If you can't get that they yes, you certainly are playing all by yourself.

I wanted your opinion based on the pics and story, that was it.

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It's not abu ghraib, but I wonder if those men had the choice to have those pictures taken and whether they have permission to have them uploaded to a social networking site.

Just because they didn't have their photos taken while naked and forced to simulate sex acts with other male prisoners does not mean that these photos are not degrading and humiliating. The intent behind the pictures is obviously to use them as figures of fun for the amusement of the soldier and her Facebook friends.

Yes, that IS humiliation.

On the lighter side of things now maybe they can get 'tagged.'

This is perhaps a good time to ask for that 'unlike' button.

He makes a good point and you attack his grammar, how typical.

I wanted your opinion based on the pics and story, that was it.

And I gave one in case you care to read it 24+ hours later.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

It's not abu ghraib, but I wonder if those men had the choice to have those pictures taken and whether they have permission to have them uploaded to a social networking site.

Just because they didn't have their photos taken while naked and forced to simulate sex acts with other male prisoners does not mean that these photos are not degrading and humiliating. The intent behind the pictures is obviously to use them as figures of fun for the amusement of the soldier and her Facebook friends.

Yes, that IS humiliation.

Heres something for you to ponder. Why are your sensitivities so one sided? Your sooooo sensitive towards one group over another. You call the American flag a "rag on a pole" yet you find sorrow and sympathy for a couple guys handcuffed and blindfolded. yet you have know idea of what theyve done. Seems as though there could be a defining moment here?

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1360&bih=575&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=arrested&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's no parity in those issues.

[Danno 1,228]

The intent behind the pictures is obviously to use them as figures of fun for the amusement of the soldier and her Facebook friends.

Yes, that IS humiliation.

Historically speaking, this treatment would be considered "sweet" by any POW.

I and many others were treated much more harsh in "training" for such events.