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Naming their group after a Great Moment in Muslim conquest hardly leads to warm fuzzy feelings regarding their public statements as to the purpose of this particular mosque. Coincidence perhaps but it seems unlikely.

Naming the project after a Muslim conquest that ultimately failed should lead to all the warm and fuzzy feelings that the Bible thumpers could ever wish for.

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How appropriate. The attacks of 9/11 failed too.

strange, they seemed pretty successful to me.

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INGRAHAM: There’s a disconnect, George, between the elites and the way they think about this, and, I think most New Yorkers, and most of the country. I know Michael Bloomberg was out there saying, “Well, our values need to be properly represented to the world, and if this mosque isn’t going to be built, what is that going to say? The terrorists win!” Well, I say the terrorists have won with how this has gone down. 600 feet from where thousands of our fellow Americans were incinerated in the name of political Islam, and we’re supposed to be cheering this?!

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/16/laura-ingraham-mosque/

So, basically her point is, once the blood (of Americans- Who cares about anyone else..... oh wait, except latin America, our NATO allies, any other military allies, allies and 'experts' we're told to believe are real from the media and gov't, etc. :whistle: ) starts flowing, the Constitution goes out the window?

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Not really. Two of their nations now lie in ruin because of what they did. Their attacks failed.

in ruin is imo a bit of an exaggeration.

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I hate to say this, but the bigots may have won. I'm hearing rumors that an announcement will be made in a couple of days that the project, officially known as Park51, will be canceled due to the unexpected vitriol from American retards. Abraham Foxman of the ADL, a man who is supposed to fight against bigotry and defamation, justified the spewing outrage, saying of the non-Muslim 9/11 families: "Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted."

As a Palestinian, I'm now trying to apply the logic and justifications used against the mosque to decide how bigoted and irrational I want to be against Israel, for example, a country that was placed into the area of the world where none of the neighbors wanted it and still don't want it. Ironically, many of the same people who decry the Cordoba House as tasteless and insensitive strongly support a country whose presence has generated a lot of rancor and global outrage even before its inception.

So far, I am rediscovering that, unlike anti-Muslim bigots, I'm not the kind of person who can hate or even dislike people for who they are. I'm stuck hard on disliking folks for what they do, and right now, I dislike a lot of Americans for what they've done to further the myth that the Muslims in their midst are all 6 degrees from Bin Laden, but I thank God for drawing back the curtain to expose this national cancer on our Constitution. Knowledge is power.

You make some good points. However, you can't say that a Muslim is who someone is. It is what they do. That is, being a Muslim is a choice. If someone dislikes Muslims, that could be considered bigoted and wrong. But that isn't disliking someone for who they are. It's disliking them for what they do.

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in ruin is imo a bit of an exaggeration.

once again, we agree to disagree.

however, i dont believe it can be argued that american blowback was a lot worse than the actual attacks. that means, america wins. they lose.

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once again, we agree to disagree.

however, i dont believe it can be argued that american blowback was a lot worse than the actual attacks. that means, america wins. they lose.

but we agree curry is good :)

i still don't think the "payoff" was worth the cost. we still have a fragile grip over there and no real functioning government without us military backing.

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i still don't think the "payoff" was worth the cost. we still have a fragile grip over there and no real functioning government without us military backing.

all that matters is that more of them died. the example has been set. attack an american institution and lose an entire country or two. it sounds bad but it's a good thing for them to know.

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How appropriate. The attacks of 9/11 failed too.

Not really. We're getting comfortable now comparing ourselves - in terms of freedom and liberty - to Saudi Arabia. If the goal of the 9/11 attacks was to destroy the American way of life, to have us throw overboard that which made this country great, then they're still succeeding to this date.

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all that matters is that more of them died. the example has been set. attack an american institution and lose an entire country or two. it sounds bad but it's a good thing for them to know.

body counts really don't indicate who's winning - see vietnam for that.

and i wouldn't call it losing an entire country either.

you musta found a coke to drink, you're back to trying to set people up :lol:

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Not really. We're getting comfortable now comparing ourselves - in terms of freedom and liberty - to Saudi Arabia. If the goal of the 9/11 attacks was to destroy the American way of life, to have us throw overboard that which made this country great, then they're still succeeding to this date.

+1

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body counts really don't indicate who's winning - see vietnam for that.

and i wouldn't call it losing an entire country either.

you musta found a coke to drink, you're back to trying to set people up :lol:

it's been days and i am starting to feel fine.

 

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