Captain Ewok - what in the world is going on?

[The_Dude 1,142]

This would be a perfect time for a mod to step in and say "hey guys, this has degenerated into off-topic, please take it offline so the thread may continue on-topic."

Which is to say, I predict thread lock.

It's insane that he's been demanding I back up some phantom claim that he has imagined that I have made. But back on-topic.

I think each regional sub-forum should have it's own junior moderator whose moderating authority is confined to that specific regional forum.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I'm nominating someone for the UK forum right now in a PM to Ewok.

[tmma 467]

It's insane that he's been demanding I back up some phantom claim that he has imagined that I have made. But back on-topic.

I think each regional sub-forum should have it's own junior moderator whose moderating authority is confined to that specific regional forum.

OMG Enough with the moderators........There are enough of them! In fact i think too many and arguing with them has become a VJ pastime.

[Jenn! 918]

OMG Enough with the moderators........There are enough of them! In fact i think too many and arguing with them has become a VJ pastime.

These threads often turn into mod nominations. And after seeing how the mods get torn up I can't fathom why anyone would still want to do it!

[Marilyn. 340]

These threads often turn into mod nominations. And after seeing how the mods get torn up I can't fathom why anyone would still want to do it!

exactly

[Jenn! 918]

Hey what happened to Indigo Skies. I nominate him!

[Marilyn. 340]

Hey what happened to Indigo Skies. I nominate him!

I nominate Consolemaster..

[mox 298]

These threads often turn into mod nominations. And after seeing how the mods get torn up I can't fathom why anyone would still want to do it!

You'll notice, however, that it's only certain mods that "get torn up." Good moderation isn't impossible, nor is it thankless. For example, Krikit's name only ever comes up as an example of a good moderator. Susita popped in here yesterday and received nothing but praise. I often rant about "the moderating team," but people are smart enough to know that I'm not a mutually exclusive.

The problem (as you know) is that good moderation is hard work. Some are willing to put in that hard work. Others just want to carry a shiny badge and push buttons. The good ones are appreciated, and I think they know it.

[Ban Hammer 13,573]

I nominate Consolemaster..

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/145931-marilyn-for-mod/

[Marilyn. 340]

no way I don't want the job

[Jenn! 918]

The problem (as you know) is that good moderation is hard work. Some are willing to put in that hard work. Others just want to carry a shiny badge and push buttons. The good ones are appreciated, and I think they know it.

"Good" is most definitely subjective. Kathryn receives the most criticism because she is the most active. To suggest that she doesn't put in hard work, wants to carry a shiny badge and just push buttons is really offensive and I know it's wrong. I'm upset on her behalf. I know she takes her job very seriously and she puts in a LOT of work into this site, and gets mostly grief.

Krikit is hardly here anymore.

[mox 298]

"Good" is most definitely subjective. Kathryn receives the most criticism because she is the most active. To suggest that she doesn't put in hard work, wants to carry a shiny badge and just push buttons is really offensive and I know it's wrong. I'm upset on her behalf. I know she takes her job very seriously and she puts in a LOT of work into this site, and gets mostly grief.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I actually like Kathryn personally, so I don't take any satisfaction in being so critical of her moderating "style." Yes, she puts a lot of work in, but IMHO she's too fast on the draw, too likely to lock a thread instead of steering it in the right direction. I think all she'd have to do is tweak her style just a bit, and she'd be fantastic.

[The_Dude 1,142]

"Good" is most definitely subjective. Kathryn receives the most criticism because she is the most active. To suggest that she doesn't put in hard work, wants to carry a shiny badge and just push buttons is really offensive and I know it's wrong. I'm upset on her behalf. I know she takes her job very seriously and she puts in a LOT of work into this site, and gets mostly grief.

Krikit is hardly here anymore.

The only criticism I have of Kathryn is her seemingly haphazard enforcement of TOS. She simply isn't consistent.

[Darnell 8,479]

Many of these 'old timers' that hang around in OT, like to 'stir the pot'.

It's one or more of

--flame-baiting

--name calling

--racist speech

--references to racist speech

--carry overs of prior 'thread-wars' with new attempt to 'win'

--personal attacks

--defamation of character

--sexual innuendos

VJ, even in OT forum, is NOT the place for this. It 'grew' into this, but come on - it's NOT the place for this. This is a 'Family Immigration Web Portal' and this type of behavior needs to stop.

If these 'old timers' decided, en masse, to stop making posts that covered things from this list, then this discussion would be moot.

If you really have a grudge, if you really want to pick on someone here because of prior altercations - hey ! Give it a rest !

But listen - this is all down to choice, ya? You've made a choice to hang out here, you've made a choice to throw-down in OT. Conscious or unconscious, drunk or sober, you made a choice.

Choices have consequences, always, yes? Keep making 'those choices' and 'other stuff' happens, ya ?

You could, of course, make another choice - to find the RIGHT WEB PORTAL to play in. VJ, these days, isn't the right web portal for you.

Happy Tuesday !

[The_Dude 1,142]

Many of these 'old timers' that hang around in OT, like to 'stir the pot'.

It's one or more of

--flame-baiting

--name calling

--racist speech

--references to racist speech

--carry overs of prior 'thread-wars' with new attempt to 'win'

--personal attacks

--defamation of character

--sexual innuendos

VJ, even in OT forum, is NOT the place for this. It 'grew' into this, but come on - it's NOT the place for this. This is a 'Family Immigration Web Portal' and this type of behavior needs to stop.

If these 'old timers' decided, en masse, to stop making posts that covered things from this list, then this discussion would be moot.

If you really have a grudge, if you really want to pick on someone here because of prior altercations - hey ! Give it a rest !

But listen - this is all down to choice, ya? You've made a choice to hang out here, you've made a choice to throw-down in OT. Conscious or unconscious, drunk or sober, you made a choice.

Choices have consequences, always, yes? Keep making 'those choices' and 'other stuff' happens, ya ?

You could, of course, make another choice - to find the RIGHT WEB PORTAL to play in. VJ, these days, isn't the right web portal for you.

Happy Tuesday !

Again, Darnell, the same question could be posed to you. Isn't it against TOS to tell people to leave VJ?