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  1. 1. As a future husband, how accurate do you feel this article depict the financial reality?

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  2. 2. As a foreign bride, how useful was this article to you in order to understand your future husbands financial commitment?

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Dave and I share everything including bills....

1) We don't spend money on phone bills at all as we only use skype. I do call him when he's at work sometimes but the phone bill is usually about 20 bucks....

2) We do not translate anything except for 3 documents we needed to get translated to send with the petition.

Oh you know what I could write a list but i'm not even gonna try..... lol.... not worth it.... :P

OUR COMPLETE TIMELINE

Latest steps:

10/26/2006- Consulate receives case (seriously, one month to receive the case?? BS!), and packet 3 that I sent even before they had received the case.

01/02/2007- Interview!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got a 221(g)

01/23/2007- Second Interview. VISA granted!!!

01/29/2007- VISA arrived.... no envelope though. I'm gonna contact them and see what happened this time!

01/31/2007- I'll have to send them one last financial support evidence.

02/01/2007- Evidence sent

02/02/2007- Evidence received by Consulate

02/06/2007- Consulate sends envelope!

02/07/2007- Envelope received!!!

02/10/2007- Flew to the USA!!!!!!

04/17/2007- Wedding day!!!

--- Wish us luck!!! ---

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Pretty condecending article - do others also feel 'talked down to'? These figures are totally unrealistic for the majority of K-1 visa applicants, and the 'daily living' expenses are also unrealistic. We live very comfortably in the Atlanta area - not a cheap part of the country - yet our expenses for the two of us plus our pets are less across the board for all of your single US citizen 'necessities'. It sounds to me that you have another agenda somewhere - some bone of contention to pick about your own dissatisfaction. I suspect that you don't feel that the 'importance' of your own financial worth is fully appreciated by your own fiancee or wife. Maybe because she was expecting to focus on a relationship rather than on an itemized debit ledger.

Yes...it was rather condescending IMHO. Our expenses are far less than what Justin quotes. I would feel that I am merely an expense rather than the love of one's life after reading this. My husband and I share expenses, and it's OUR money, not HIS or MINE. Just a thought there ol boy...would your "future wife" be viewed as your equal or a piece of property or as in investment?

BTW Justin...I'm not the "foreign bride"...I am a USC and my husband is the "foreign husband". I concur with Kathryn...sounds like you have an agenda. Care to share?

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Who said romance was dead? lmao

I'd be interested to know if this breakdown was included in a translation to your future wife and how she felt about it.

I'm sure she'd be thrilled to see her value/burden on paper!

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you need a translater to understand everything your fiance says then maybe you really don't need to be going through the process in the beginning, that will save you some of that precious money your so worried about.

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I was thinking the exact same thing!

Though, I guess speaking in English and writing/reading English are two very different animals, so maybe if someone was able to speak English, writing a letter in English or reading a letter might be much harder to do.

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9/11/2006: Appointment with Civil Surgeon for vaccination supplement

9/18/2006: Mailed AOS and renewal EAD applications to Chicago

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TRAVEL (over 1 year)

3 trips – flights @ 1400 each---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$4200

3 trips – accommodation @ $60/night and 10 days / trip------------------------------------------------------------------$1800

3 trips – daily money for food and play $1000/trip----------------------------------------------------------------------------$3000

3 trips – travel insurance @ $80 / insurance policy--------------------------------------------------------------------------$240

TOTAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$9240

Let's see how accurate it is for my case.

Hmmm... hubby only visited me once a year and he didn't buy any travel insurance. This first illustration is far off...

RINGS:

2 wedding bands @ $500--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

1 OPTIONAL engagement ring-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500+

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

Didn't have engagement ring. This one is pretty accurate although we spent less than $1000 for rings.

INCREASED MONTHLY EXPENCES, ABOVE THE MORM:

This is the difference that individual expenses for your future husband has increased above the norm, that is the typical amount in the USA. Not all of these will apply to you, but it might, especially if your future wife does not speak English yet.

12 months – telephone minimum of $100 per month increase-----------------------------------------------------------$1200

12 months – email translation services $130 per month--------------------------------------------------------------------$1440

12 months – telephone translation service. 3 calls per week; 30 min each @ $0.50/min----------------------$4320

12 month – English classes for your fiancé @ $70 per month-----------------------------------------------------------$840

3 months – Introduction driving lessons (without exam) -------------------------------------------------------------------$500

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$8300

Telephone increase of $100 a month ?? This dude must have not known any cheap phone cards... poor thing... :P I speak English as my second language, no need translation service or classes. And who in the hell would hire professional translator for personal emails ??? :wacko:

Oh, and I also have been driving for 10 yrs when I met my hubby, no need any additional driving lessons.

IMMIGRATION:

Fiancé Visa fee to USCIS----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$170

Visa Preparation Service-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500

Documents translated (police certificate, birth certificate, etc)-------------------------------------------------------------$300

Fiancé Visa Interview fees and medical examination--------------------------------------------------------------------------$200

4 occurrences – Emergency FEDEX of documents @ $100----------------------------------------------------------------$400

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1570

This one is also quite accurate for me, but I spent I-130 and K3 fee, and only $50 for FEDEX. So the details are off, but the total still fits.

WEDDING and HONEYMOON:

Your future husband will think and plan ahead. He has to plan for expenses of your honeymoon and depending on your tradition (or if his parents still live), he might have to plan money for a wedding too. Here we will not go into detail, but give you price ranges.

1 week honeymoon (flights, accommodation, food money and play money)--------------------------------------$3000+

Destination wedding (Hawaii)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1200-$6000

Wedding on Mainland USA-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$10,000+

Wedding dress and outfit---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500+

Men's Tuxedo rental-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$100

TOTAL (Honeymoon + dress + Jux [not wedding])---------------------------------------------------------------------------$3600

Had our wedding and honeymoon in Vancouver, nothing fancy, spent almost the same amount since both of us had to fly to Canada.

TOTALS:

Let's add these up. Of cause, we understand that some people will use all these services and have all these expenses, other will not.

Travel-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$9240

Rings-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

Increased monthly expenses above the norm----------------------------------------------------------------------------------$8300

Immigration----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1570

Wedding and Honeymoon-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$3600

TOTAL INVESTMENT over 12 months----------- ------------------------------------------------------------------$23710

Ahem, being together with your loved one -------------- priceless :yes:

Me- Indonesia & hubby - US

married in Vancouver, Canada

USCIS-free for 10 years !

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Did Justin write that??

I thought it was just an article he was sharing........ :unsure:

OUR COMPLETE TIMELINE

Latest steps:

10/26/2006- Consulate receives case (seriously, one month to receive the case?? BS!), and packet 3 that I sent even before they had received the case.

01/02/2007- Interview!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got a 221(g)

01/23/2007- Second Interview. VISA granted!!!

01/29/2007- VISA arrived.... no envelope though. I'm gonna contact them and see what happened this time!

01/31/2007- I'll have to send them one last financial support evidence.

02/01/2007- Evidence sent

02/02/2007- Evidence received by Consulate

02/06/2007- Consulate sends envelope!

02/07/2007- Envelope received!!!

02/10/2007- Flew to the USA!!!!!!

04/17/2007- Wedding day!!!

--- Wish us luck!!! ---

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"I sat down with a few friends and we brainstormed a budget. Here we can give an indicator to our new wife's the cost of life here in the USA. This budget is based on a home owner in a average nice neighborhood in Texas, owns a average car and has the standard services most Americans have. We did not give him a salary first, but calculated the reality of normal expenses to reflect your everyday USA standard of living."

I presumed that was him.

Does this win the longest post in VJ history? lol

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Uhh, Justin did not write that article.

That article obviously does not apply to folks from Canada and Mexico who do not incur large expenses from travel.

Many countries outside our small little North American world here do not use the common Greek alphabet we are all used to, so yes, translation of forms, instructions, and emails can be an expense.

Some countries are poor. Their currency does not have the value ours does so the fees that seem small to us are huge to them. Some fiances/spouses need to have help with visa expenses.

This is a list. It does not apply to everyone. Relax. I personally do not agree with many of these things myself, but they apply to some people, and I am not going to judge them for it.

I guess I can see it is not clear about the author. Still, you should not have anger at Justin, I do not understand that.

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K1 Visa Process long ago and far away...

02/09/06 - NOA1 date

12/17/06 - Married!

AOS Process a fading memory...

01/31/07 - Mailed AOS/EAD package for Olga and Anya

06/01/07 - Green card arrived in mail

Removing Conditions

03/02/09 - Mailed I-751 package (CSC)

03/06/09 - Check cashed

03/10/09 - Recieved Olga's NOA1

03/28/09 - Olga did biometrics

05/11/09 - Anya recieved NOA1 (took a call to USCIS to take care of it, oddly, they were helpful)

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Fiancé Visa – The Financials Exposed!

This article will expose the realities of the financial investment involved in bringing your beloved to this wonderful country. For the purpose of this article we will refer to the petitioner as HE (male) and the beneficiary as SHE (female), since it is the case for most of us here. Of cause HE(male) and SHE (female) can be used interchangeably in some cases with BENEFICIARY and PETITIONER. Many future wives from foreign countries have their own lives they can relate to. They understand their own personal financial needs in their own country, but are not clear about the financial resources that a blissful process of a foreign husband will involve. This is simply not at their fault, but just because they live in their own countries and can NOT YET relate to the investments that are being made. Now here we will expose the true financial realities to men considering to bring their futures wife's to the USA, but more importantly also to future wife's, to simply understand the financial investment you beloved husband is making for both of your happiness.

Before I continue, please read this article in an informative light. This article is very honest about the pure realities, without sugarcoating anything. We, as your future husbands love our brides to be very much! We will do anything for them. This article is not a romance novel, but instead a pure financial reality for those who wish to know the truths about the financials behind your beautiful romance and the investment needed for marrying a foreign bride.

Long ago, I read somewhere that it costs about $20,000 to marry a foreign national. In this article we will put that to the test. We will look at (1) real life one time expenses like international travel, engagement o wedding rings, etc. We will also look at (2) increased monthly expenses like how much your mans telephone bill has increased, above what it use to be or how much he is now paying for translation fees every month, which he never paid for. We will also look at expenses like the wedding and honeymoon – the (3) once in a lifetime events. Then lastly we will look at a (4) sample budget of a "everyday USA" man or family.

Please bare in mind, that these are samples. If you get a better per minute telephone rate, this is not the place for it. This is for illustration purposes, but I draw from my experience and several friends who have pursued the dream of marrying a foreign bride.

TRAVEL (over 1 year)

3 trips – flights @ 1400 each---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$4200

3 trips – accommodation @ $60/night and 10 days / trip------------------------------------------------------------------$1800

3 trips – daily money for food and play $1000/trip----------------------------------------------------------------------------$3000

3 trips – travel insurance @ $80 / insurance policy--------------------------------------------------------------------------$240

TOTAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$9240

RINGS:

2 wedding bands @ $500--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

1 OPTIONAL engagement ring-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500+

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

INCREASED MONTHLY EXPENCES, ABOVE THE MORM:

This is the difference that individual expenses for your future husband has increased above the norm, that is the typical amount in the USA. Not all of these will apply to you, but it might, especially if your future wife does not speak English yet.

12 months – telephone minimum of $100 per month increase-----------------------------------------------------------$1200

12 months – email translation services $130 per month--------------------------------------------------------------------$1440

12 months – telephone translation service. 3 calls per week; 30 min each @ $0.50/min----------------------$4320

12 month – English classes for your fiancé @ $70 per month-----------------------------------------------------------$840

3 months – Introduction driving lessons (without exam) -------------------------------------------------------------------$500

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$8300

IMMIGRATION:

Fiancé Visa fee to USCIS----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$170

Visa Preparation Service-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500

Documents translated (police certificate, birth certificate, etc)-------------------------------------------------------------$300

Fiancé Visa Interview fees and medical examination--------------------------------------------------------------------------$200

4 occurrences – Emergency FEDEX of documents @ $100----------------------------------------------------------------$400

TOTAL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1570

WEDDING and HONEYMOON:

Your future husband will think and plan ahead. He has to plan for expenses of your honeymoon and depending on your tradition (or if his parents still live), he might have to plan money for a wedding too. Here we will not go into detail, but give you price ranges.

1 week honeymoon (flights, accommodation, food money and play money)--------------------------------------$3000+

Destination wedding (Hawaii)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1200-$6000

Wedding on Mainland USA-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$10,000+

Wedding dress and outfit---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$500+

Men's Tuxedo rental-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$100

TOTAL (Honeymoon + dress + Jux [not wedding])---------------------------------------------------------------------------$3600

TOTALS:

Let's add these up. Of cause, we understand that some people will use all these services and have all these expenses, other will not.

Travel-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$9240

Rings-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1000

Increased monthly expenses above the norm----------------------------------------------------------------------------------$8300

Immigration----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1570

Wedding and Honeymoon-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$3600

TOTAL INVESTMENT over 12 months----------- ------------------------------------------------------------------$23710

WOW, this is amazing! I truly have never done this math before and it holds true.

SAMPLE AMERICAN BUDGET:

I sat down with a few friends and we brainstormed a budget. Here we can give an indicator to our new wife's the cost of life here in the USA. This budget is based on a home owner in a average nice neighborhood in Texas, owns a average car and has the standard services most Americans have. We did not give him a salary first, but calculated the reality of normal expenses to reflect your everyday USA standard of living.

Mortgage (property tax included)----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$1400

Property tax (for some property tax might not be included)----------------------------------------------------------------$350

Home insurance----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$100

Car payment---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$350

Car insurance--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$80

Food---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$400

Electricity/Natural Gas Average (Texas)-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$350

Water and Surge----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$70

Monthly Average: Car maintenance--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$70

Monthly Average: Medical expenses-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$100

Entertainment-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$200

Special Events (birthdays/gifts)-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$50

Petroleum / Gasoline---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$120

Clothing (monthly average over the year)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$50

Home maintenance------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$150

Miscellaneous food------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$30

Telephone (before calling international) + Internet + Cable/Sat TV-------------------------------------------------------$120

Mobile Phone---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$70

Hobbies and sports (health club membership)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------$30

TOTAL-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------$3570/month

Interestingly, if we take $3570 which is the pay he takes home and add tax to it and calculate an annual income for this fictitious man, we will be earning a yearly income of about $58,000 per year, assuming he is NOT SAVING ANYTHING and is NOT investing in his pension fund. If we add these to variables into the equation, assuming he invests 20% into his pension and saves 10% ($350/month) of his salary, we will be receiving an annual salary of $70,000. This is what most professionals earn about here in the USA. Professionals being sales people, IT professionals, managers, engineers, etc.

According to the Census Bureau here in the US, the median income for an average HOUSEHOLD in the USA is $43,000. HOUSEHOLD, where the man and woman contributes.

HOW DOES ALL OF THIS ADD UP?

So now that you have seen the numbers and might wonder, how will my beloved future husband make all of this happen for us? When you are engaged there is no question that he loves his fiancé with his whole heart and soul. Finding and knowing you have found your soul mate is an extraordinary experience and with love and commitment he will make it happen. He will adapt his life in a million small ways, so that the 2 of you can be together.

It is going to be hard for him, financially, VERY HARD. If we look at our fictitious man, earning $70,000 a year and takes home $3570 a month, that means in one hear he takes home $43,000 a year after tax. He needs to come up with another $23,710 in addition to still pay for his existing expenses also. This is almost 50%.

THE MESSEGE:

Here is the main message! This sample man we looked at is very real. It will represent closely a large percentage of men that want to bring their beloved future wife's from abroad. As a future wife, consider this... Your man needs to come up with an extra 50% more of his annual income, in order to make all of this happen. He will do this by changing his lifestyle, saving here and saving there. He will dip into long term savings. For all of this money, you will be together.

WHAT CAN I AS FUTURE WIFE DO?

Trust and honesty is crucial to any marriage, but in international relationship they develop much faster, or they decay much faster. Here is a few things you as the future wife can do to assist your beloved future husband:

- Show him you respect his money that he works very hard for.

- Understand that there is not an unlimited supply in his bank account.

- Do small things to also help save, since you are both a team now. Maybe write 3 letters a week in stead of 4 (if paying for translation).

- If you "want" something and do not "need" it, delay getting it. Your man needs to use his funds on things that will help the 2 of you get together and things that will be useful to you once you get to the USA. Belly dancing lessons is not one of those (smile).

- TALK to your future husband about what YOU can do to help. He will appreciate it VERY much! Not what you can do financially, but which small things can you do to ease the financial strain.

WHAT CAN I AS FUTURE HUSBAND DO?

Communication is critical and honesty is vital. You are making a huge commitment and telling her authentically what can be done and what can not, is very important.

- Share with her when something is not financially viable and a unproductive use of your money. Now of all times, you need to use your money to get her here and to prepare her for her new life with you.

- Be open and firm when something can not be done. She will appreciate the honesty VERY much and it will create a beautiful sense of closeness as you work thru all of this.

- Do not spend money on something she asks for and your heart does not feel right about it. This experience can be the best thing that happened to you in order to get your financial affairs in order. If you do spend money on something for her, feel right about it, not because you feel obligated.

- Also, by being firm and practical it will help you make sure that she wants your heart and that she has no ulterior motives.

- Talk to her about how much is there and how much is not. Tell her openly about options of doing things and how to pay for all of them. The better she is informed, the better she can help you save up.

- Ask her to help you. No, not financially, but by being your partner and by understanding the magnitude of the financials. Ask her to do what she can so that you as a couple will get thru this. Maybe you call her 3 times a week instead of 4.

I hope you got some insight into the financials that men like us are faced with. Please remember, we do not measure our love for our future wives by our wallets, but in this world we live in it is simply a part of life. Where 2 hearts become one, anything is possible.

I guess thats what one would spend if they do the fiancee visa..

we did the narriage visa. it cost nothing like that. :no:

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Okay, using his little "template", I worked out mine. Yes, I know I don't make #######, so kindly ignore that, eh?

TRAVEL (over 1 year)

3 trips – flights @ $800/each - $2400

2 trips – accommodation @ $0/night - $0

2 trips – daily money for food and play $30/day x 20 days - $600

2 trips – travel insurance @ $30 / insurance policy - $90

TOTAL $3090 (vs. $9240)

RINGS:

1 wedding band @ $400

1 engagement ring-$200

TOTAL - $600 (vs. $1000+)

12 months – telephone $60 per month increase--$720

12 months – email translation services $0 per month--$0 (WhoTF pays this????)

12 months – telephone translation service. 3 calls per week; 30 min each @ $0/min - $0 (Ditto)

12 month – English classes for your fiancé @ $0 per month--$0 (She's BRITISH! It's ME who would benefit from "English" lessons. lol)

3 months – Introduction driving lessons (without exam) -$0 - I have a car. I have a mouth. Sian has a brain. Indiana has country roads.... I reckon she can figure it out.

TOTAL - $720 (vs. $8300)

IMMIGRATION:

Fiancé Visa fee to USCIS - $170

Visa Preparation Service - $0 (Once again, Sian and I have functioning brains...we can fill out papers.)

Documents translated (police certificate, birth certificate, etc) - $0 (Don't need to translate from English to English)

Fiancé Visa Interview fees and medical examination--$200

0 occurrences – Emergency FEDEX of documents @ $0 - $0

TOTAL - $370 (vs.$1570)

0 week honeymoon - $0 (After remodeling 3 rooms of my house, there won't be a honeymoon for a while. Besides...I'm not about to send Jordan (Sian's son) to a sitter as soon as he gets here.)

Wedding on Mainland USA - $200 (includes marriage license, Justice of the Peace, etc.)

Wedding dress and outfit - $0 (Sian doesn't wear dresses. Ever.)

Men's Tuxedo rental - $0 (As IF!)

TOTAL - $200 (vs. $13,600 for Mainland wedding)

TOTALS:

Travel-$3090

Rings-$600

Increased monthly expenses above the norm - $720

Immigration - $370

Wedding and Honeymoon - $200

TOTAL INVESTMENT over 12 months - $4980.00 (vs. $33710.00)

SAMPLE AMERICAN BUDGET:

Mortgage - $0 (I own it. It's paid for.)

Property tax - $100

Home insurance - $75

Car payment - $0 (Will be paid off when she arrives)

Car insurance--$95

Food - $200

Electricity/Natural Gas Average (Indiana) - $300

Water and Sewer - $35

Monthly Average: Car maintenance - $0 ( I would do it all myself, and it's a Toyota...hasn't broken once.)

Monthly Average: Medical expenses - $0

Entertainment - $0 (Walks in the forest are free, as is mountain biking)

Special Events (birthdays/gifts) - $0 (I give nothing, I expect nothing.)

Gasoline - $160

Clothing (monthly average over the year) - $20

Home maintenance - $150

Miscellaneous food - $0 (I've never eaten miscellaneous food...don't think I want to)

Telephone + Internet - $55

Mobile Phone - $200 (includes calls to UK and text messages)

Hobbies and sports - $0

TOTAL - $1335.00/month (vs. $3570.00/month)

Monthly Income (Current Gross) $2426.67/month

Monthly Income (Estimated Net) $1906.67/month

Also: Sian has paid for her flights here. She is also paying for the medical and visa courier fee. I'm paying for remodeling the house, washer and dryer, bedroom set, etc.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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Okay, using his little "template", I worked out mine. Yes, I know I don't make #######, so kindly ignore that, eh?

TRAVEL (over 1 year)

3 trips – flights @ $800/each - $2400

2 trips – accommodation @ $0/night - $0

2 trips – daily money for food and play $30/day x 20 days - $600

2 trips – travel insurance @ $30 / insurance policy - $90

TOTAL $3090 (vs. $9240)

RINGS:

1 wedding band @ $400

1 engagement ring-$200

TOTAL - $600 (vs. $1000+)

12 months – telephone $60 per month increase--$720

12 months – email translation services $0 per month--$0 (WhoTF pays this????)

12 months – telephone translation service. 3 calls per week; 30 min each @ $0/min - $0 (Ditto)

12 month – English classes for your fiancé @ $0 per month--$0 (She's BRITISH! It's ME who would benefit from "English" lessons. lol)

3 months – Introduction driving lessons (without exam) -$0 - I have a car. I have a mouth. Sian has a brain. Indiana has country roads.... I reckon she can figure it out.

TOTAL - $720 (vs. $8300)

IMMIGRATION:

Fiancé Visa fee to USCIS - $170

Visa Preparation Service - $0 (Once again, Sian and I have functioning brains...we can fill out papers.)

Documents translated (police certificate, birth certificate, etc) - $0 (Don't need to translate from English to English)

Fiancé Visa Interview fees and medical examination--$200

0 occurrences – Emergency FEDEX of documents @ $0 - $0

TOTAL - $370 (vs.$1570)

0 week honeymoon - $0 (After remodeling 3 rooms of my house, there won't be a honeymoon for a while. Besides...I'm not about to send Jordan (Sian's son) to a sitter as soon as he gets here.)

Wedding on Mainland USA - $200 (includes marriage license, Justice of the Peace, etc.)

Wedding dress and outfit - $0 (Sian doesn't wear dresses. Ever.)

Men's Tuxedo rental - $0 (As IF!)

TOTAL - $200 (vs. $13,600 for Mainland wedding)

TOTALS:

Travel-$3090

Rings-$600

Increased monthly expenses above the norm - $720

Immigration - $370

Wedding and Honeymoon - $200

TOTAL INVESTMENT over 12 months - $4980.00 (vs. $33710.00)

SAMPLE AMERICAN BUDGET:

Mortgage - $0 (I own it. It's paid for.)

Property tax - $100

Home insurance - $75

Car payment - $0 (Will be paid off when she arrives)

Car insurance--$95

Food - $200

Electricity/Natural Gas Average (Indiana) - $300

Water and Sewer - $35

Monthly Average: Car maintenance - $0 ( I would do it all myself, and it's a Toyota...hasn't broken once.)

Monthly Average: Medical expenses - $0

Entertainment - $0 (Walks in the forest are free, as is mountain biking)

Special Events (birthdays/gifts) - $0 (I give nothing, I expect nothing.)

Gasoline - $160

Clothing (monthly average over the year) - $20

Home maintenance - $150

Miscellaneous food - $0 (I've never eaten miscellaneous food...don't think I want to)

Telephone + Internet - $55

Mobile Phone - $200 (includes calls to UK and text messages)

Hobbies and sports - $0

TOTAL - $1335.00/month (vs. $3570.00/month)

Monthly Income (Current Gross) $2426.67/month

Monthly Income (Estimated Net) $1906.67/month

Also: Sian has paid for her flights here. She is also paying for the medical and visa courier fee. I'm paying for remodeling the house, washer and dryer, bedroom set, etc.

:lol::lol::lol::lol: thats funny..

still Marriage visa is cheaper.. :whistle:

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Hi

Thank you for sharing your budget, but it does not apply to everyone as mentioned by other listers.

For example, wedding fees, well in my country it is the bride's dad who pays... So my US fiancé will not have to !

You forgot that once married, your husband will pay LESS tax ! Money is saved...

And last but not least, I will work and add my income to his, so our global income may be much higher !

Besides, it is usually cheaper to live at 2 than alone for food, wahing up, sharing the rent etc...

If we had not met my finacé and I would have travelled anyway...

So what adds really to expenses in our case are the immigration filing and translating... But love has no price!!!

Cheers

- Carole -

K1 journey (2006) - the toughest one!

03/30/06 - I-129F mailed

07/31/06 - NOA2

08/26/06 - Packet 3 received

09/07/06 - Checklist sent back to Embassy

09/16/06 - Packet 4 received

10/03/06 - Interview

10/07/06 - Visa received by post

10/22/06 - Entered USA

01/06/07 - Wedding :-)

AOS journey (2007) - getting easier!

01/18/07 - AOS and EAD applications sent (USPS)

01/23/07 - NOA received

02/14/07 - Biometrics appointment

03/16/07 - Initial interview for AOS

04/08/07 - EAD card received

06/11/07 - CA Driver's License. EAD was needed to be allowed to pass the test in CA :((

07/23/07 - CONDITIONAL GREEN CARD!

I-751 journey (2009) - so much easier!

04/27/09 - Sent I-751 by regular mail

04/29/09 - NOA1 (received by mail on 05/12/09)

07/01/09 - Biometrics appointment (received by mail on 06/20/09)

07/25/09 - Approved - card in preparation (received by mail on 07/31/09)

07/29/09 - Card produced (received by mail on 08/05/09)

Taking a break from USCIS before applying for citizenship...

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