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You should try lassi. Feels a lot more celebratory than room temperature water.

lassi is every day stuff...room temp water is celebratory!

(well to answer seriously, we don't drink alcohol, so if I wanted a celebration drink it'd be probably a fancy coffee haha)

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Just saw this on CNN thought it would be a fun question for OT.

What do you drink to celebrate?

It depends. If it's hot, a root beer float or homemade strawberry milkshake. If it's cold, spiced apple cider or hot chocolate with whipped cream. If it's somewhere in the middle, either fresh squeezed orange juice or chocolate milk.

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Can someone explain to me why christians don't drink any alcohol when christ quite clearly drank it regularly, and indeed provided wine for a celebration when only water was available - allegedly? Is there some 'mistranslation' of wine going on. I find that quite hard to believe when wine is something that people have drunk for thousands of years, and not only that, was safer to drink, as was small beer because of the contamination that occurred in water supplies prior to the introduction of centralized sewerage and water sanitisation. Of course, one must understand that these alcoholic drinks were far less potent than their modern counterparts when it came to every day drinks, but I find the attitude to alcohol rather odd - although I do quite understand the dangers of addiction, which is a totally separate subject if one is being honest.

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Can someone explain to me why christians don't drink any alcohol when christ quite clearly drank it regularly, and indeed provided wine for a celebration when only water was available - allegedly? Is there some 'mistranslation' of wine going on. I find that quite hard to believe when wine is something that people have drunk for thousands of years, and not only that, was safer to drink, as was small beer because of the contamination that occurred in water supplies prior to the introduction of centralized sewerage and water sanitisation. Of course, one must understand that these alcoholic drinks were far less potent than their modern counterparts when it came to every day drinks, but I find the attitude to alcohol rather odd - although I do quite understand the dangers of addiction, which is a totally separate subject if one is being honest.

If you get a legitimate answer, can you ask them why christ was a figure of tolerance and compassion, yet many who consider themselves devout christians are patently intolerant? In case some outraged christian fundamentalist doesn't have a sarcasm-meter, that was a rhetorical question.

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I should say 'some christians' because quite clearly this is not an issue for a substantive portion of christians who happily partake of the occasional glass of alcohol whether as part of a celebration, or simply because that's what they feel like drinking.

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I should say 'some christians' because quite clearly this is not an issue for a substantive portion of christians who happily partake of the occasional glass of alcohol whether as part of a celebration, or simply because that's what they feel like drinking.

In our case there are a few reasons we don't. I don't condemn people who drink alcohol however I do think getting drunk is wrong according to my beliefs. I have some Christian friends who drink alcohol sometimes, but not to get drunk. I don't think it's morally wrong and I know Christ drank wine. Culturally speaking, my husband grew up in an alcohol free home(and so did I) and his was a Hindu family. They have stuck with that and so has my husband because he feels that's just a better option for him. I don't like the drinking culture that I see around here, so I would rather not be a part of it. I don't think alcohol is needed in life. Some people don't care for tea or coffee, what's the big deal if someone doesn't want to drink? I have tasted champagne before during a wedding toast, I didn't like it. I don't like the flavor of alcohol in food either if it's strong. I hate the smell too.

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In our case there are a few reasons we don't. I don't condemn people who drink alcohol however I do think getting drunk is wrong according to my beliefs. I have some Christian friends who drink alcohol sometimes, but not to get drunk. I don't think it's morally wrong and I know Christ drank wine. Culturally speaking, my husband grew up in an alcohol free home(and so did I) and his was a Hindu family. They have stuck with that and so has my husband because he feels that's just a better option for him. I don't like the drinking culture that I see around here, so I would rather not be a part of it. I don't think alcohol is needed in life. Some people don't care for tea or coffee, what's the big deal if someone doesn't want to drink? I have tasted champagne before during a wedding toast, I didn't like it. I don't like the flavor of alcohol in food either if it's strong. I hate the smell too.

Your reasons are personal, not demanded by your sect - some christian sects do demand their adherents be alcohol free and celebrate this fact when I can see no rationale for such a position. I am not sure why getting drunk should be against someone's beliefs either - not if it is something one does occasionally as apposed to being something one does because one has an addiction problem - of course being drunk and behaving badly is another matter entirely. I do not hold with the excuse that someone did something wrong 'because they were drunk' No, they did it because they chose to do whatever it was - alcohol reduces inhibitions but does not free you from understanding right and wrong, good from bad etc. I don't hold with that excuse at all.

It's not a 'big deal' if you don't like it, I don't like coffee, I don't drink it who cares? I don't think being abstemious is something to be proud of either though.

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I should say 'some christians' because quite clearly this is not an issue for a substantive portion of christians who happily partake of the occasional glass of alcohol whether as part of a celebration, or simply because that's what they feel like drinking.

Correct! Thanks for the clarification Sister MC...+1.

Mainly it is the Baptist and some fundamentalist Evangelicals who do not partake of alcohol and that is because they find a few 'proof texts' in the Bible which state the naturally adverse effects of overindulgence. They particularly like to use Noah's display of nudity during his drunken sprawls as an example of why not to drink (Book of Genesis). Catholics believe it is fine to drink...but like most of society we also realize that one shouldn't over do it (too often! :lol).

Here is a favorite quote of mine from one of the Catholic Church Fathers, Thomas Aquinas, "Sorrow can be alleviated by good sleep, a bath and a glass of wine." The bath is optional :lol:

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Correct! Thanks for the clarification Sister MC...+1.

Mainly it is the Baptist and some fundamentalist Evangelicals who do not partake of alcohol and that is because they find a few 'proof texts' in the Bible which state the naturally adverse effects of overindulgence. They particularly like to use Noah's display of nudity during his drunken sprawls as an example of why not to drink (Book of Genesis). Catholics believe it is fine to drink...but like most of society we also realize that one shouldn't over do it (too often! :lol).

Here is a favorite quote of mine from one of the Catholic Church Fathers, Thomas Aquinas, "Sorrow can be alleviated by good sleep, a bath and a glass of wine." The bath is optional :lol:

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Well that's the thing, there is no excuse for bad behaviour, period. Whether one drinks or does not drink the bad behaviour will show if it is going to.

On a side note, I have a friend who strips when drunk - I have never found it offensive but it is an odd behavioural characteristic.

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Can someone explain to me why christians don't drink any alcohol when christ quite clearly drank it regularly, and indeed provided wine for a celebration when only water was available - allegedly? Is there some 'mistranslation' of wine going on. I find that quite hard to believe when wine is something that people have drunk for thousands of years, and not only that, was safer to drink, as was small beer because of the contamination that occurred in water supplies prior to the introduction of centralized sewerage and water sanitisation. Of course, one must understand that these alcoholic drinks were far less potent than their modern counterparts when it came to every day drinks, but I find the attitude to alcohol rather odd - although I do quite understand the dangers of addiction, which is a totally separate subject if one is being honest.

I thought this could be clearly 'mapped out' by accurately identifying each sect of Christianity? Yes? No ? IME, if 'that church' used grape juice during communion - then I stepped into a sect with some onus about alcohol.

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I am not sure why getting drunk should be against someone's beliefs either ...

If one's beliefs derive from the Bible?

I just did a cursory google search and came up with this...

Ephesians 5:18 (New International Version)

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

Galatians 5:19-21 (New International Version)

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Of course, you could argue that the Bible is just another book, we might as well believe in Harry Potter. And I'd agree with you. But the fact remains a lot of people do believe this stuff.

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