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Filed: Country: England
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Hi everyone! I am compiling all my information to submit the K1. My fiance & I corresponded primarily through Facebook- there are over 4000 messages exchanged & when I copied & pasted these into Word, it's going to be over 700 pages. I don't think it's prudent to send all this to USCIS? What would you guys do? And should we take all this to the interview? Any help is appreciated!

K1 Timeline:

9.10.10 - Mailed I-129F

9.14.10 - Received in Dallas, signed for by L. Walker.

9.20.10 - Check cashed

2.7.11 - NOA2 via email

3.31.11 - Medical interview

4.4.11 - Mailed packet 3 and paid visa fee

4.26.11 - Visa interview appointment, 9am

4.26.11 - Visa APPROVED!!!

5.4.11 - Visa delivered

5.25.11 - POE: Chicago

6.5.11 - Wedding in Omaha

AOS:

6.18.11 - Mailed AOS/EAD/AP

6.20.11 - Received in Chicago/check cashed

6.27.11 - NOA1 recieved for all three (AOS/EAD/AP)

7.26.11 - Biometrics appointment, 2pm

8.4.11 - Transfered to CSC

8.11.11 - EAD approved!!! (checked website)

9.14.11 - Green card approved!! (checked website)

9.19.11 - Green card in hand. Nothing further until 9/1/13!

"Absence is to love as wind is to fire; it extinguishes the small and kindles the great."

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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Hi everyone! I am compiling all my information to submit the K1. My fiance & I corresponded primarily through Facebook- there are over 4000 messages exchanged & when I copied & pasted these into Word, it's going to be over 700 pages. I don't think it's prudent to send all this to USCIS? What would you guys do? And should we take all this to the interview? Any help is appreciated!

If you want you can send all or if you just want to send various ones over time because most of it is probably duplicate conversations especially if you guys where just replying each other normally on replies the previous msgs are there. If you dont send all now then definitely take all to the interview. I think it just depends on if you want to send it all me I send everything but I am also going through a different embassy than you so it just depends......Good luck

November 5, 2010 Interview 7am APPROVED!!!!!! (6months 4weeks 1day) THANK YOU LORD!!!!!

(look at my about me page in my profile if you want to see my entire k1 journey)

AOS Journey:

Feb.4, 2011 Mailed AOS packet

Feb. 7, 2011 Pkt delivered in Chicago

Feb. 10, 2011 Received txt and email of NOA for AOS, EAD, and AP

Feb. 11, 2011 Check cashed for AOS

Feb. 12, 2011 Touched

Feb. 14, 2011 received hard copy of NOA for AOS, EAD& AP

Feb. 18, 2011 received appt letter for biometrics

Feb. 28, 2011 biometrics appt @10am

Feb. 28, 2011 received txt/email AOS case transferred to csc

Mar 1, 2011 AOS Touched

Mar 3, 2011 received hard copy of AOS transfer to csc

Mar 4, 2011 AOS Touched

Mar 28, 2011 Received txt/email saying card production has been ordered. (1month 3eeks 3days)

Mar 28, 2011 Received 2nd txt/email saying we have registered this customer permanent residence status

Mar 29, 2011 Received 3rd txt/email says card production has been ordered.

April 1, 2011 greencard and welcome letter in hand!!

April 5, 2011 received txt/email EAD card production ordered

Will Start Removing Conditions Dec 2012!!!!

Dec. 26, 2012 mailed ROC paperwork

Dec. 28, 2012 NOA for ROC paperwork

Jan. 7, 2013 received bio appt letter

Jan. 24, 2013 bio appt.

June 22, 2013 10yr green card received

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Hi everyone! I am compiling all my information to submit the K1. My fiance & I corresponded primarily through Facebook- there are over 4000 messages exchanged & when I copied & pasted these into Word, it's going to be over 700 pages. I don't think it's prudent to send all this to USCIS? What would you guys do? And should we take all this to the interview? Any help is appreciated!

Definitely don't include all that! Include little snippets of conversations here and there, but don't go overboard. And no, I wouldn't take it to the interview either. I would start corresponding through emails or instant messaging systems and then take THOSE transcripts to the interview, as well as other parts of conversations through Facebook. USCIS doesn't need to see every conversation that's taken place.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Paraguay
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I agree with the others. Only include parts over the time period.

One thing I've been doing that may be helpful to you, and if you use Skype, is to take photo shots of your desktop with both you and your fiancé in a conversation. The photo will be time-stamped by the clock in your taskbar, and a few of these over time should prove a continuing relationship too...I think.

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Filed: Country: England
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Ok great! Thanks for the advice!

K1 Timeline:

9.10.10 - Mailed I-129F

9.14.10 - Received in Dallas, signed for by L. Walker.

9.20.10 - Check cashed

2.7.11 - NOA2 via email

3.31.11 - Medical interview

4.4.11 - Mailed packet 3 and paid visa fee

4.26.11 - Visa interview appointment, 9am

4.26.11 - Visa APPROVED!!!

5.4.11 - Visa delivered

5.25.11 - POE: Chicago

6.5.11 - Wedding in Omaha

AOS:

6.18.11 - Mailed AOS/EAD/AP

6.20.11 - Received in Chicago/check cashed

6.27.11 - NOA1 recieved for all three (AOS/EAD/AP)

7.26.11 - Biometrics appointment, 2pm

8.4.11 - Transfered to CSC

8.11.11 - EAD approved!!! (checked website)

9.14.11 - Green card approved!! (checked website)

9.19.11 - Green card in hand. Nothing further until 9/1/13!

"Absence is to love as wind is to fire; it extinguishes the small and kindles the great."

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Just include 1 or 2 in the petition packet; really for this first step what they're looking for is proof that you've seen each other within the last two years. Also from what I've heard (and it makes sense) they are required to read everything you include, so too many unnecessary letters could slow down your application.

K1 Visa

I-129F Sent :------------------2010-07-28

I-129F NOA1 :----------------2010-08-05

Transferred to CSC:--------2010-08-10

I-129F NOA2 :----------------2011-01-04

NVC Left :----------------------2011-01-19

Consulate Received :------2011-01-25

Packet 3 Received :---------2011-01-27

Packet 3 Sent :---------------2011-01-27

Packet 4 Received :---------2011-02-17

Interview Date :---------------2011-02-24

Visa Received :---------------2011-03-07

Flight: March 10th 2011!

Married: March 22nd 2011!

AOS

AOS Packet sent :------------2011-04-28

NOA1 :---------------------------2011-05-04

I-485 RFE :---------------------2011-05-16

Biometrics letter : ------------2011-05-23

Biometrics Walk-In :---------2011-05-26

RFE Response :--------------2011-05-31

Transferred to CSC :--------2011-06-14

EAD Approved :---------------2011-06-24

AP Approved :-----------------2011-06-28

EAD / AP Received :--------2011-07-02

AOS Approved :---------------2011-08-04

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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We didn't include any emails in our I-129F but we did include approx 60 photos (4 per pg on a Word doc.) as well as letters from both our bosses (both usc) stating they had met both of us (at teh same time...) as well as 6 months of phone bills with our phone numbers indicated on the front page (ie. work, cell , home etc) As well as docs from our banks adn credit card stating we were either had joint accoutns or authorized user....and ou rlife insurances stating the other person as the beneficiary in case of death.

We will probably bring some emails to the interview though....

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If the beneficiary is a UK citizen and was born in the UK, they likely won't even look at any relationship evidence at the interview, and it's not required for the approval of the petition. This is one of the benefits of a low fraud country. We sent a few pictures of us with the petition not as evidence of relationship, but as secondary evidence that we had met the requirement of having met in person. There is no relationship requirement for the petition phase.

During Nik's interview, although he had printed out some sample emails, screen shot of email inbox etc, these were never asked for before the approval of the visa. The primary focus for London is in the financials - can the petitioner support the beneficiary, and the other requirements (criminal and medical records, birth certs, marriage/divorce certs etc). In fact, relationship evidence isn't even on the list of things to bring to the interview.

Although I know it's hard to resist "just in case", sending in chat logs 700 pages long is really truly overkill. Furthermore, people have actually had their chat logs and emails used against them. There are couples on here who thought it was cute to refer to each other as "husband" or "wife" in anticipation of their vows, feeling like they were already married in their hearts (which I understand - it was in our wedding vows!) and they were DENIED a Fiance(e) visa because they had shot themselves in the foot by providing proof contrary to their claims to be unwed. Also, I'd be willing to bet that the adjudicator has to look through everything you send, and if I were an adjudicator, I'm sure I'd prefer a nice, slim file, with the required documentation neatly arranged to a behemoth file more appropriate for using as a door stop.

Focus on reading the RFE thread at the top of the forum to see how many times people trip up over the requirements vs. how many are asked for more relationship evidence. Be sure that when discussing the visa interview itself, that you seek out ONLY consulate specific advice, and read up on the London reviews to see what others going through your consulate had to provide as part of their experience. I think you'll find that of those who showed any relationship evidence, they typically brought it up themselves, along the lines of CO: "where did he propose" Beneficiary: "In this nice park...I have pictures!".

If the beneficiary is not a UK citizen or they were born in another country but became a UK citizen, then it is possible they will get a harder look more comparable to the experiences of the other country (for example, going by the London interview reviews, it's just as hard for a Nigerian to get through London as it is to get through their consulate back home)

K-1:

January 28, 2009: NOA1

June 4, 2009: Interview - APPROVED!!!

October 11, 2009: Wedding

AOS:

December 23, 2009: NOA1!

January 22, 2010: Bogus RFE corrected through congressional inquiry "EAD waiting on biometrics only" Read about it here.

March 15, 2010: AOS interview - RFE for I-693 vaccination supplement - CS signed part 6!

March 27, 2010: Green Card recieved

ROC:

March 1, 2012: Mailed ROC package

March 7, 2012: Tracking says "notice left"...after a phone call to post office.

More detailed time line in profile.

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