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Pessimistic and perhaps alarmist, on its face... but has either of these thoughts crossed anyone else's mind, even fleetingly? And, if it HAS crossed someone else's mind, the larger question is, why?

I've long thought they'd try to grant blanket amnesty to ensure more voters. That's a democrat's wet dream.

As for declaring a state of emergency... we'll just have to see. I don't see it happening based on illegal's votes (because they'd simply have them vote and count them without declaring an emergency... a lot easier to just sneak 'em under the radar like ACORN did last time) I see it happening based on something else, something like an economic collapse and rapid devaluation of the dollar.

Why?

Why not! (Well, that and I wear a tinfoil hat sometimes!)

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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As for declaring a state of emergency... I see it happening based on something else, something like an economic collapse and rapid devaluation of the dollar.
Exactly -- I should have added "...on the basis of any pretext at all."
Why? Why not! (Well, that and I wear a tinfoil hat sometimes!)
Good way to pick up radio transmissions from North Korea, si man. :) I was thinking more along the lines of "what other regime has shown so little respect for the rule of law, and what would be out of character if they continued to operate in that way." Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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If Hillary wants to be President she has a better chance of running in 2012 then in 2016 or beyond that because of age. Statistically by 2016 a Republican is up to win again. No one party has won three terms in a row since Franklin D. Roosevelt who was the only president that had won three terms before the two term limit was set in place. Also like I said last week or the week before that Obama has a chance at winning a second term just like Bush did when not many thought he'd win again.

I don't know about the conspiracy theories to legalize illegals to rig the votes but I wouldn't put it past either party since what I witnessed the Republicans did back in Texas with redrawing the districts to rig the majority votes. The Democrats in the legislature called them on it and walked out of legislature then. I think that's part of the reason why Bush got in office and beyond. The whole entire political system seems to be corrupt and has been long before most of us got here. I really dislike thinking about it all.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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Exactly -- I should have added "...on the basis of any pretext at all."Good way to pick up radio transmissions from North Korea, si man. :) I was thinking more along the lines of "what other regime has shown so little respect for the rule of law, and what would be out of character if they continued to operate in that way."

Obama's doing the same thing... he's just sneakier!

No one party has won three terms in a row since Franklin D. Roosevelt who was the only president that had won three terms before the two term limit was set in place. Also like I said last week or the week before that Obama has a chance at winning a second term just like Bush did when not many thought he'd win again.

What about Reagan/Bush back in the '80s? Weren't they both Republicans?

I don't know about the conspiracy theories to legalize illegals to rig the votes but I wouldn't put it past either party since what I witnessed the Republicans did back in Texas with redrawing the districts to rig the majority votes. The Democrats in the legislature called them on it and walked out of legislature then. I think that's part of the reason why Bush got in office and beyond. The whole entire political system seems to be corrupt and has been long before most of us got here. I really dislike thinking about it all.

That's an oldie but a goodie. Although, it won't work in this case because illegals are widespread enough that their votes will count more proportionally.

Русский форум член.

Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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69 is the new 49. :whistle:

:rofl:

Does that mean we will see Hillary and Barry in a made for tv porno next year.

Edited by Col. Lingus

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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Obama's doing the same thing... he's just sneakier!

What about Reagan/Bush back in the '80s? Weren't they both Republicans?

That's an oldie but a goodie. Although, it won't work in this case because illegals are widespread enough that their votes will count more proportionally.

Hmm. You're right. I wonder what the hell my political science professor was talking about then when they told us that? I wonder what they would have said to that if someone in class had remembered that and said that to them. Oh well that's why I don't have a PhD in political science.

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Hmm. You're right. I wonder what the hell my political science professor was talking about then when they told us that? I wonder what they would have said to that if someone in class had remembered that and said that to them. Oh well that's why I don't have a PhD in political science.

Roosevelt/Truman went five terms.

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Someone with whom I recently chatted pessimistically estimated a 49% likelihood that "Honest Obe" will craft a way to legalize at least some Illegals (undocumented Democrats) before this November, and -- if it appears that he or his side will lose in 2012 -- at least a 51% likelihood that he will declare a State of Emergency -- suspending the 2012 elections indefinitely and keeping himself in power.

Pessimistic and perhaps alarmist, on its face... but has either of these thoughts crossed anyone else's mind, even fleetingly? And, if it HAS crossed someone else's mind, the larger question is, why?

Wholescale legalising of illegal aliens without going through Congress? USCIS is already looking at it, using Amnesty By Administrative Action.

As for the State of Emergency, I believe he has to get Congress onside for that, so it won't happen. If he tried it, Nixon's impeachment would look like a gentle slap on the wrist by comparison to what Obama would go through.

Then again, I could be wrong :ph34r:

Don't interrupt me when I'm talking to myself

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TBoneTX, on 10 August 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

I don't know about the conspiracy theories to legalize illegals to rig the votes but I wouldn't put it past either party since what I witnessed the Republicans did back in Texas with redrawing the districts to rig the majority votes. The Democrats in the legislature called them on it and walked out of legislature then. I think that's part of the reason why Bush got in office and beyond. The whole entire political system seems to be corrupt and has been long before most of us got here. I really dislike thinking about it all.

That's an oldie but a goodie. Although, it won't work in this case because illegals are widespread enough that their votes will count more proportionally.

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The first paragraph above was from Cleocatra, not from me. Forgiven, but wonder what happened with the quoting?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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As for the State of Emergency, I believe he has to get Congress onside for that, so it won't happen. If he tried it, Nixon's impeachment would look like a gentle slap on the wrist by comparison to what Obama would go through.
Has that stopped him yet? And, can we imagine the civil unrest if impeachment proceedings really were to occur? Regardless of protocol (involving Congress), might not the lapdog media go right along with any unilateral Executive-Branch "emergency" proclamation, thus fomenting the turmoil to follow?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Has that stopped him yet? And, can we imagine the civil unrest if impeachment proceedings really were to occur? Regardless of protocol (involving Congress), might not the lapdog media go right along with any unilateral Executive-Branch "emergency" proclamation, thus fomenting the turmoil to follow?

Now that all the police, firefighters, teachers and illegals are beholding to Lord Obama for their very existence, I am sure they will all help the commies extinguish any paltry resistance the moronic teabag loving neanderthals could offer.

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Someone with whom I recently chatted pessimistically estimated a 49% likelihood that "Honest Obe" will craft a way to legalize at least some Illegals (undocumented Democrats) before this November, and -- if it appears that he or his side will lose in 2012 -- at least a 51% likelihood that he will declare a State of Emergency -- suspending the 2012 elections indefinitely and keeping himself in power.

Pessimistic and perhaps alarmist, on its face... but has either of these thoughts crossed anyone else's mind, even fleetingly? And, if it HAS crossed someone else's mind, the larger question is, why?

This is serious tin foil hat territory. Any which way you slice it. Any legalized currently illegal alien would, I'm sure you're ware, not be elgible to vote in 2012, let alone in 2010. But sure, the tin foil hat brigades just gobble this sort of nonsense up.

 

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