ALL F4s

[PAK2015 F2B 9]

WHY JOLLY NO MOVEMENT IN JUNE ALSO...?

WHEN WILL NOW THE MOVEMENT WILL START...??

WE cant predict VIsa bullettin movement so far if New laws include more visa in F4 category then F4 movement can be fast because there were huge demand since 2001 according my info and 2001 PIE CHART.

gOOD LUCK

[PAK2015 F2B 9]

No Movement. lol

Jolly ... lol

Mr savvy boy DNT POST like funny things...is it fun over here ???

Mr jolly is 100% EXPERT then you.

NOW LAUGH!!!!!

[jolly786 96]

Mr savvy boy DNT POST like funny things...is it fun over here ???

Mr jolly is 100% EXPERT then you.

NOW LAUGH!!!!!

.....

[jolly786 96]

Family Based Immigration:

1. Change annual cap from 226,000 to 161,000. Following is the allocation:
a. Unmarried adult children of U.S. citizen: 35%
b. Married adult children of U.S. citizen under age 31 at the time of filing: 25%
c. Unmarried adult children of lawful permanent resident: 40%

Annual cap change from 226,000 to 161,000 is effective 18 months after date of enactment. Though the annual cap will decrease, overall the number of family based immigration visas issued will increase (because of expanded definition of immediate relative).

2. Expand V visa to to allow following individuals with an approved family petition (I-130) to live in the U.S:
a. Unmarried adult children of permanent residents/U.S. citizen
b. Married adult children of U.S. citizen under 31 years at time of filing the petition.

3. No more visa for siblings (brothers/sisters) of U.S. citizens 18 months after enactment of CIR. Hence this will remove F4 category.

4. Immediate Relative now include a child or spouse of an alien admitted for lawful permanent residence.

5. Recapture unused visas from 1992 to 2013; effective first FY from the date when this bill becomes law

6. Increase per country cap from 7% to 15%.


Following applicants are excluded from annual FB cap (they have unlimited visas):

1. Spouses and minor children of permanent residents

2. Spouses and minor children of U.S. citizen

3. Parents of U.S. citizen

Note: If a U.S. citizen sponsors their parents, then they can also (indirectly) sponsor their minor sibling (brother/sister). This is because the minor sibling would be considered derivative beneficiary of parents and hence would be able to immigrate with them.

[jolly786 96]

How a Bill Becomes a Law

Creating laws is the U.S. House of Representatives’ and U.S. Senators' most important job. All laws in the United States begin as bills. Before a bill can become a law, it must be approved by the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate, and the President. Let’s follow a bill’s journey to become law.

The Bill BeginsLaws begin as ideas. These ideas may come from a Representative/Senator —or from a citizen like you. Citizens who have ideas for laws can contact their Representatives to discuss their ideas. If the Representatives agree, they research the ideas and write them into bills.

The Bill Is ProposedWhen a Representative has written a bill, the bill needs a sponsor. The Representative talks with other Representatives about the bill in hopes of getting their support for it. Once a bill has a sponsor and the support of some of the Representatives, it is ready to be introduced.

The Bill Is Introduced

The Hopper

In the U.S. House of Representatives, a bill is introduced when it is placed in the hopper—a special box on the side of the clerk’s desk. Only Representatives can introduce bills in the U.S. House of Representatives.

When a bill is introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives, a bill clerk assigns it a number that begins with H.R. A reading clerk then reads the bill to all the Representatives, and the Speaker of the House sends the bill to one of the House standing committees.

In U.S. Senate, Members must gain recognition of the presiding officer to announce the introduction of a bill during the morning hour. If any senator objects, the introduction of the bill is postponed until the next day.

In addition, the following things also happen:

• The bill is assigned a number. (e.g. HR 1 or S 1)
• The bill is labeled with the sponsor's name.
• The bill is sent to the Government Printing Office (GPO) and copies are made.
• Senate bills can be jointly sponsored.
• Members can cosponsor the piece of Legislation.

The Bill Goes to CommitteeWhen the bill reaches committee, the committee members—groups of Representatives who are experts on topics such as agriculture, education, or international relations—review, research, and revise the bill before voting on whether or not to send the bill back to the House floor.

If the committee members would like more information before deciding if the bill should be sent to the House floor, the bill is sent to a subcommittee. While in subcommittee, the bill is closely examined and expert opinions are gathered before it is sent back to the committee for approval.

The Bill Is ReportedWhen the committee has approved a bill, it is sent—or reported—to the House floor. Once reported, a bill is ready to be debated by the U.S. House of Representatives.

The Bill Is DebatedWhen a bill is debated, Representatives discuss the bill and explain why they agree or disagree with it. Then, a reading clerk reads the bill section by section and the Representatives recommend changes. When all changes have been made, the bill is ready to be voted on.

The Bill Is Voted On

There are three methods for voting on a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives:

1. Viva Voce (voice vote): The Speaker of the House asks the Representatives who support the bill to say “aye” and those that oppose it say “no.”
2. Division: The Speaker of the House asks those Representatives who support the bill to stand up and be counted, and then those who oppose the bill to stand up and be counted.
3. Recorded: Representatives record their vote using the electronic voting system. Representatives can vote yes, no, or present (if they don’t want to vote on the bill).

If a majority of the Representatives say or select yes, the bill passes in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill is then certified by the Clerk of the House and delivered to the U.S. Senate.

The Bill Is Referred to the SenateWhen a bill reaches the U.S. Senate, it goes through many of the same steps it went through in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill is discussed in a Senate committee and then reported to the Senate floor to be voted on.

Senators vote by voice. Those who support the bill say “yea,” and those who oppose it say “nay.” If a majority of the Senators say “yea,” the bill passes in the U.S. Senate and is ready to go to the President.

The Bill Is Sent to the PresidentWhen a bill reaches the President, he has three choices. He can:

1. Sign and pass the bill—the bill becomes a law.
2. Refuse to sign, or veto, the bill—the bill is sent back to the U.S. House of Representatives, along with the President’s reasons for the veto. If the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate still believe the bill should become a law, they can hold another vote on the bill. If two-thirds of the Representatives and Senators support the bill, the President’s veto is overridden and the bill becomes a law.
3. Do nothing (pocket veto)—if Congress is in session, the bill automatically becomes law after 10 days. If Congress is not in session, the bill does not become a law.

The Bill Is a LawIf a bill has passed in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate and has been approved by the President, or if a presidential veto has been overridden, the bill becomes a law and is enforced by the government.

Note: This is a very high level overview of how bill becomes a law. Also most public and private bills may be introduced in either the House of Representatives or the Senate. Bills that raise revenue can only originate in the House of Representatives as per the Constitution. Most bills begin as companion bills in both houses.

[nrocky 3]

Immigration Bill faces hurdles

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/07/immigration-bill-amendments_n_3232641.html

List of amendments:-

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments.cfm

[savvy.boy 13]

Immigration Bill faces hurdles

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/07/immigration-bill-amendments_n_3232641.html

List of amendments:-

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments.cfm

So many amendments.

now find some thing about siblings , brothers or sisters of us citizen in these amendments.

[savvy.boy 13]

The only amendments about F4 , siblings , Brothers and sisters of US citizen in all these amendments I found are the following

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono6-%28MDM13534%29.pdf

Hirono 6

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono7-%28MDM13535%29.pdf

Hirono 7

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono9-%28EAS13312%29.pdf

Hirono 9

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions1-%28EAS13446%29.pdf

Session 1 Page No 9

Edited May 8, 2013 by savvy.boy

[savvy.boy 13]

More Amendments about siblings

Following

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono5-%28MDM13425%29.pdf

Hirono 5

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono10-%28ARM13626%29.pdf

Hirono 10

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions48-%28MDM13428%29.pdf

Session 48

[jolly786 96]

1.See guys mark up on this bill starts on 9th may and senator judicairy commettie will pass this bill before 24th may..becoz currently their are 10 democreates and 8 rebulicians in the senate judiciary commettie......

2.Then this bill goes to senate floor in the early june(early june means first week of june).......now,after that debates and ammendments on this bill start on the senates floor....

3.now currently their are 55 democrates and 45 rebulicians in the senate...and this bill need 60 votes to pass the senate...

Calculation of the votes = 55 democrates + 4 rebulicans (john maccain,lindsey graham,marco rubio,flake) + 15 rebuliains

Total votes = 74 > 60 (Bill pass in senate with strong majority)......

These votes may vary (+ ,- 5 )......

4.Now ,this bill goes to house...where house will pass this bill in july 2013....

[bebin 4]

It's not as easy as you make it appear because not all Democrates will back this bill. There are 301 amendments to be done on this bill so we're not sure as to how it will be greeted. Whilst we are all hoping for the best its a long uphill battle.

[jolly786 96]

It's not as easy as you make it appear because not all Democrates will back this bill. There are 301 amendments to be done on this bill so we're not sure as to how it will be greeted. Whilst we are all hoping for the best its a long uphill battle.

its is easy sir........you can see

[nrocky 3]

The only amendments about F4 , siblings , Brothers and sisters of US citizen in all these amendments I found are the following

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono6-%28MDM13534%29.pdf

Hirono 6

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono7-%28MDM13535%29.pdf

Hirono 7

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hirono/Hirono9-%28EAS13312%29.pdf

Hirono 9

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions1-%28EAS13446%29.pdf

Session 1 Page No 9

A significant amendment being proposed, as per these links, is to provide employment authorisation (along with V visa) to siblings with approved petitions. This would mean that one would be able to move to the US without any further wait and start working, since the earlier cap of 60 days for V visa for siblings would be removed and one would also have employment authorisation in hand. This is almost as good as a green card. Have I read it right?

[nonah 0]

Hello to everyone.

http://www.judiciary...-(EAS13446).pdf

‘‘(5) INELIGIBILITY OF ALIENS WITH PENDING

OR APPROVED PETITIONS

.—An alien who has a petition pending or approved in another immigrant

category under this section or section 201 may not

apply for a merit-based immigrant visa. "

This paragraph says the pending or approved petition under (section 201) are ineligible to apply (and

may not apply) for merit-based immigration visa.What do you think about this.

[nasimachy 0]

June Visa bulletin is out no movement of f4.