ALL F4s

[jolly786 96]

Family Visas Cut, Family Visas Added

The immigration bill promises to clear out the existing backlog of over 4 million family members of U.S. citizens and permanent residents waiting for green cards to join their family members. Over the next 10 years, all those who’ve already petitioned to come to the U.S. could be allowed in.

But beginning 18 months after the bill takes effect, U.S. citizens will no longer be allowed to bring their non-citizen siblings to the U.S. Those currently waiting in the long visa backlogs will be cleared, but after that, if you’re from another country and your brother or sister is in the U.S., they’ll be of no help to get you here.

The bill would also stop granting visas to the adult married children of U.S. citizens.

On the other hand, the legislation does make changes that will help unite some families who now have to wait decades. For example, currently, an endless number of citizens can petition for green cards for their minor children and spouses, but there’s a cap on the number of these family members who legal residents can sponsor. The bill would remove that cap and allow all minor kids and spouses of residents to come to the U.S.

[jc_colin 3]

Read the following points carefully educed from summary of Immigration reform bill.

1. The bill eliminates the backlog for family and employment-based immigrants (see below discussion of merit-based system).

2. The bill repeals the availability of immigrant visas for siblings of U.S. citizens once 18 months have elapsed since the date of enactment.

3. Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014 for employment-based visas that have been pending for three years, family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

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1. The bill eliminates the backlog for family and employment-based immigrants (see below discussion of merit-based system).

A. It means bill will eliminate backlog , but people who won't get their visas after 18 months of enactment will have to go through merit based immigration.

2. The bill repeals the availability of immigrant visas for siblings of U.S. citizens once 18 months have elapsed since the date of enactment.

A. it means very simple , No More visas for F4 once 18 month time has elapsed.than you must have to qualify for the visa through merit based immigration.

3. Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014 for employment-based visas that have been pending for three years, family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

A. It means they plan to start Merit based system and repeal F4 from 1 October 2014.

according to mathematical calculation it is wrong , 18 months will elapsed on December 2014 , if bill would pass and enactment is done on 4 July 2013.

but if you calculate from today ,April , than it is exactly correct.

from April it will take 18 months to reach October 2014.

So I think senators have wrote this bill in sense of today, April.

they have left this point to amended by senate to change the month 1 October 2014 to December 2014.

Thanks for sharing the info! I think I better hurry up and begin petionning my young two (2) brothers as soon as possible before all these bills become laws. A lot of things are changing!

[jc_colin 3]

Family Visas Cut, Family Visas Added

The immigration bill promises to clear out the existing backlog of over 4 million family members of U.S. citizens and permanent residents waiting for green cards to join their family members. Over the next 10 years, all those who've already petitioned to come to the U.S. could be allowed in.

But beginning 18 months after the bill takes effect, U.S. citizens will no longer be allowed to bring their non-citizen siblings to the U.S. Those currently waiting in the long visa backlogs will be cleared, but after that, if you're from another country and your brother or sister is in the U.S., they'll be of no help to get you here.

The bill would also stop granting visas to the adult married children of U.S. citizens.

On the other hand, the legislation does make changes that will help unite some families who now have to wait decades. For example, currently, an endless number of citizens can petition for green cards for their minor children and spouses, but there's a cap on the number of these family members who legal residents can sponsor. The bill would remove that cap and allow all minor kids and spouses of residents to come to the U.S.

jolly786,

I am currently in the process of sending the two (2) petitions for my two (2) young brothers. If I sent out the I-130 petitions by next week, would I still have time before it becomes law?

Edited April 18, 2013 by jc_colin

[Nick_34 0]

jolly786,

I am currently in the process of sending the two (2) petitions for my two (2) young brothers. If I sent out the I-130 petitions by next week, would I still have time before it becomes law?

Yeh u still have lot lot and lot and lot of time.. Because this bill will go in house,senate and than president sign and than final deadline.. so lot of time and than deadline..

[jc_colin 3]

Yeh u still have lot lot and lot and lot of time.. Because this bill will go in house,senate and than president sign and than final deadline.. so lot of time and than deadline..

Thanks Nick_34! I thought the same thing too, but sometimes it's better to get informed. I am going to add one more for my sister as well.

[PAK2015 F2B 9]

ANS YOUR ALL QUESTION ABOUT CIR FOR FAMILY BASE VISA

Family reunification has long been the cornerstone of our immigration system, and the Senate bill proposes significant changes to the family-based system. Many of the bill’s provisions are welcome and much-needed changes that will help millions of families. Importantly, the bill redefines “immediate relatives” to include spouses and minor children of green card holders (the so-called “2a” fix), which will exempt those family members from numerical caps and reunite them quickly. Another significant change is the elimination of the current family backlog of 4.3 million loved ones over a period of 8 to 10 years. In the meantime, some family members with approved petitions awaiting a green card will be able to live and work in the U.S. on a “V” visa. Also on the plus side, the bill proposes allowing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) discretion to waive grounds of inadmissibility if denying admission would result in hardship to an immigrant’s U.S. citizen or LPR parent, spouse, or child. These are all-important changes that will provide relief for many families in the Asian, Latino, African, and Caribbean communities.

However, the other proposed changes are cause for concern and raise many questions. Moving forward, U.S. citizens would no longer be able to sponsor their brothers or sisters (there is an 18-month grace period after enactment). And the family preference category for married adult children (“F3” category) would be limited to individuals 30 years old or younger. The bill does not include provisions to include LGBT couples and their families in our immigration system. It is envisioned that some of these individuals will still be able to come to the U.S. through the new merit-based system, which allocates points to individuals based on different criteria. For example, the bill proposes granting 10 points for being a brother or sister of a U.S. citizen. This is the same number of points awarded for having a Master’s Degree.

[ikabirul 11]

ANS YOUR ALL QUESTION ABOUT CIR FOR FAMILY BASE VISA

Family reunification has long been the cornerstone of our immigration system, and the Senate bill proposes significant changes to the family-based system. Many of the bill’s provisions are welcome and much-needed changes that will help millions of families. Importantly, the bill redefines “immediate relatives” to include spouses and minor children of green card holders (the so-called “2a” fix), which will exempt those family members from numerical caps and reunite them quickly. Another significant change is the elimination of the current family backlog of 4.3 million loved ones over a period of 8 to 10 years. In the meantime, some family members with approved petitions awaiting a green card will be able to live and work in the U.S. on a “V” visa. Also on the plus side, the bill proposes allowing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) discretion to waive grounds of inadmissibility if denying admission would result in hardship to an immigrant’s U.S. citizen or LPR parent, spouse, or child. These are all-important changes that will provide relief for many families in the Asian, Latino, African, and Caribbean communities.

However, the other proposed changes are cause for concern and raise many questions. Moving forward, U.S. citizens would no longer be able to sponsor their brothers or sisters (there is an 18-month grace period after enactment). And the family preference category for married adult children (“F3” category) would be limited to individuals 30 years old or younger. The bill does not include provisions to include LGBT couples and their families in our immigration system. It is envisioned that some of these individuals will still be able to come to the U.S. through the new merit-based system, which allocates points to individuals based on different criteria. For example, the bill proposes granting 10 points for being a brother or sister of a U.S. citizen. This is the same number of points awarded for having a Master’s Degree.

Thanks Pak 2002 for the update. What do you think about PD 2002 ? Shall we get the visa wiithin 18 months for PD 2002.

[alsayedalsayed 10]

Dear Pak

my PD May 19 2004

I am Civil Engineer

Speaking enlgish very well

my age now 58 years old

so what do you see if i failed to get the visa during the comming 18 month,

so what do you see to my situation in the Merit System ?

and if you know how the point system will be ?

to enable me to calculate it by myself

THANK you in advance

[alsayedalsayed 10]

Dear Pak

my PD May 19 2004

I am Civil Engineer (Bachelor Degree)

Speaking enlgish very well

my age now 58 years old

so what do you see if i failed to get the visa during the comming 18 month,

so what do you see to my situation in the Merit System ?

and if you know how the point system will be ?

to enable me to calculate it by myself

THANK you in advance

[Kirat95 0]

we have corrections in passport .our case is in ap.if it can be the reason my case in ap ? please tell me.

[PAK2015 F2B 9]

Thanks Pak 2002 for the update. What do you think about PD 2002 ? Shall we get the visa wiithin 18 months for PD 2002.

After bill pass our visa number will be available very soon now it is confirm and please guyes DO understand 18 month wording.

NOW listen me very carefully 18 months mean WHEN BILL PASS AND ENACTED THEN US CITIZEN can file petition for their sibling with in 18 MONTH. And after they could,t file any sibling petition.

IF SOMEONE FAIL TO DO SO THEN ALIEN SIBLING CAN COME TO USA THROUGH MERIT BASE SYSTEM AND MERIT BASE SYSTEM WILL START AFTER 2005 ,, its mean that when 2005 visa number will be available then who which can,t file petition for their sibling mention 18 month time limit Then he can file merti base system petitions.

I think now clear all the things.

DONT worry those who already approved and waiting for visa numbers BUT WHO FILED PETITION BUT YET NOT APPROVED THEN THEY MAY BE QUALIFY UNDER MERIT BASE SYSTEM WHICH WILL START AFTER 2005 PD.

good luck all

Edited April 20, 2013 by pak2002

[PAK2015 F2B 9]

Dear Pak

my PD May 19 2004

I am Civil Engineer

Speaking enlgish very well

my age now 58 years old

so what do you see if i failed to get the visa during the comming 18 month,

so what do you see to my situation in the Merit System ?

and if you know how the point system will be ?

to enable me to calculate it by myself

THANK you in advance

After bill pass our visa number will be available very soon now it is confirm and please guyes DO understand 18 month wording.

NOW listen me very carefully 18 months mean WHEN BILL PASS AND ENACTED THEN US CITIZEN can file petition for their sibling with in 18 MONTH. And after they could,t file any sibling petition.

IF SOMEONE FAIL TO DO SO THEN ALIEN SIBLING CAN COME TO USA THROUGH MERIT BASE SYSTEM AND MERIT BASE SYSTEM WILL START AFTER 2005 ,, its mean that when 2005 visa number will be available then who which can,t file petition for their sibling mention 18 month time limit Then he can file merti base system petitions.

I think now clear all the things.

DONT worry those who already approved and waiting for visa numbers BUT WHO FILED PETITION BUT YET NOT APPROVED THEN THEY MAY BE QUALIFY UNDER MERIT BASE SYSTEM WHICH WILL START AFTER 2005 PD.

good luck all

we have corrections in passport .our case is in ap.if it can be the reason my case in ap ? please tell me.

NO it is not reason for AP. AP is security checks.

[jolly786 96]

CIR Bill Would Create New

Family-Based Immigration System

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which was introduced in the Senate in April 2013 would make significant changes in the existing family-based immigration preference system.

The number of family-based preference green cards would fall from 226,000 to 161,000 annually. However, by expanding the immediate relative category, the bill would increase family-based immigration. In addition, all unused family-based numbers from fiscal years 1992 to 2013 would be added to the fiscal year 2015 quota which starts on October 1, 2014.

The worldwide level for family-based immigrant visas would be allocated as follows:

1) Unmarried sons or daughters of U.S. citizens – 35%

2) Married sons or daughters of USCs under 31 years of age at the time of filing – 25%

3) Unmarried sons and daughters of LPRs – 40%

Persons in the 2A preference category (spouses and children of lawful permanent residents) would be added to immediate relative category (joining parents, spouses and children of U.S. citizens) and would not be subject to numerical restrictions. If they entered the U.S. lawfully, they would be permitted to apply for adjustment of status even if they overstayed their temporary status or worked without authorization.

The bill would allow the derivative beneficiaries of immediate relatives to obtain permanent residence along with the principals. Example: Currently, if an adult U.S. citizen sponsors his parents and his 10-year-old sister for green cards, only the parents are considered immediate relatives and may immigrate without numerical limitations. The sister must be petitioned under the 4^th preference category and is subject to the numerical restrictions. She will be separated from her parents and will have to wait many years to qualify for a green card. Under the bill, the sister would be considered a derivative beneficiary of her parents and would be able immigrate together with them.

The per-country cap would be raised from 7% to 15%. This would greatly benefit persons born in the Philippines and Mexico who currently are subject to the longest family-based waiting times.

The bill would restrict the filing of new petitions under the 3^rd preference category (married sons and daughters of U.S. citizens) so that parents would be limited to sponsoring only their married sons and daughters who are 30 years old or younger on the date that the petition is filed with the USCIS.

The bill would completely eliminate the filing of new petitions under the 4^th preference category (brothers and sisters of U.S. citizens).

Since these changes only apply to future petitions, if you are a U.S. citizen, the time to sponsor your married sons and daughters and your brothers and sisters is now before the bill becomes law.

Currently, stepchildren are allowed to be sponsored only if the marriage creating the stepparent relationship occurred before the child’s 18^th birthday. The bill would change this to the child’s 21^st birthday. Also, the age requirement for an adopted child is raised from 16 to 18.

Children who age-out of derivative beneficiary status after performing the calculation specified in the Child Status Protection Act would retain the priority date of the original petition and would automatically convert to the 2B category as soon as their parents are admitted as permanent residents.

In addition, the bill would allow the following beneficiaries of approved family-based petitions to obtain “V” visas to live and work in the U.S. while waiting for their priority dates to become current:

1) Unmarried adult sons and daughters of U.S. citizens and permanent residents; and

2) Married sons and daughters of U.S. citizens who were 30 years old or less when the petition was submitted.

[jolly786 96]

more friendly version of CIR bill :-

http://www.immigration-law.com/

[jolly786 96]

how they will eliminate the backlogs under family based category....can some one clarify this...is they going to use merit based system to eliminate the backlogs under family based ?????????????????

Merit based system :-

Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014 for employment-based visas that have been pending for three years, family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers