Er... I Spy... no violation?

[ValerieA 350]

elmcitymaven,

The OP asked for the thread to be removed, which is their prerogative.

I get that this is the current rule, but is it appropriate? I mean, I can see the OP requesting it be locked, but if there is good info in the thread, I don't agree that they can have it removed. IMHO, if you post out on the big bad internet, you have to accept that you are going to get responses you are not going to like, and you have to live with that. Your brilliance/idiocy is out there for all to see and you gotta suck it up, buttercup. Isn't the purpose of VJ to help all those going through immigration? How can we do that if relevant threads get invisiblized?

(This applies mostly to upper forums, there's not usually a lot of helpful advice in OT )

[Fandango 1,439]

I get that this is the current rule, but is it appropriate? I mean, I can see the OP requesting it be locked, but if there is good info in the thread, I don't agree that they can have it removed. IMHO, if you post out on the big bad internet, you have to accept that you are going to get responses you are not going to like, and you have to live with that. Your brilliance/idiocy is out there for all to see and you gotta suck it up, buttercup. Isn't the purpose of VJ to help all those going through immigration? How can we do that if relevant threads get invisiblized?

(This applies mostly to upper forums, there's not usually a lot of helpful advice in OT )

I couldn't agree more. I think an OP should have 'ownership' per se, over a thread where the OP has shared some very personal details, and may regret it later. BUT I even loathe the 'locking power' alone, let's say like in OT...you talk about a general concept, or basic topic, and for any reason (s)he wants, POOF! locked.

It's stupid.

[Mags 112]

I agree. Making something invisible due to it having stuff of a personal nature is fine. But, asking it to made invisible because you're having a Class A flounce?

Nah. Deal with it.

[LaL 418]

I can think of a few threads in which the OP didn't care for how the topic was going so they ripped the ones who replied a new one only to turn around right directly afterward to have a mod close it. That is super annoying

[Marilyn. 340]

I can think of a few threads in which the OP didn't care for how the topic was going so they ripped the ones who replied a new one only to turn around right directly afterward to have a mod close it. That is super annoying

yeah I remember someone who would do that.. when the thread wasn't going the way they wanted it to they asked for it to be locked

[LaL 418]

yeah I remember someone who would do that.. when the thread wasn't going the way they wanted it to they asked for it to be locked

the annoyance for me wasn't that they didn't like the course it was on and had it locked - it was the bitchslap they doled out just prior to contacting a mod to close it

Edited August 12, 2010 by LaL

[Fandango 1,439]

the annoyance for me wasn't that they didn't like the course it was on and had it locked - it was the bitchslap they doled out just prior to contacting a mod to close it

That's such a wuss thing to do!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wonder what would happen if someone did a threadblitz and requested everything to be closed after a couple of responses. It would be pretty ridiculous.

[LaL 418]

I do remember one regular poster requested to have every thread they started closed. It was done, as they requested.

Edited August 12, 2010 by LaL

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I do remember one regular poster requested to have every thread they started closed. It was done, as they requested.

Maybe I should try this tactic.

[Mags 112]

I do remember one regular poster requested to have every thread they started closed. It was done, as they requested.

I do remember this. It was a bizarre day in modsville, that one.

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I do remember one regular poster requested to have every thread they started closed. It was done, as they requested.

Yes, I do remember that

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Just weighing in, we actually get fairly regular requests like that from people who have finished their own immigration process and would like to have all of their posts removed and their profiles/membership[s removed.

Basically, if someone wishes one or two or even three problematic threads removed that they have started - especially if it is over a period of time - it is not a problem, but if someone asks for all of them to be removed, it is. Speaking for myself, I generally respond back to them and explain that VJ is an experiential based forum where each of us shares from our experience to the benefit of other members. Even when we finish our personal journeys, our experiences may still be of value to someone else. I ask that they reconsider their request and if there are any posts that are disturbing or problematic or embarrassing or too personal, to identify them by link and we would close those, but for a whole sale removal of everything someone has posted (assuming it is not wholesale TOS violating or embarrassingly personal) no, I generally won't do that and will try hard to convince the individual making such a request to change their request. Only once have I acquiesced; there were extenuating circumstances involved so while reluctant to do so, I did.

And - on top of it all, wholesale removal of someone's posts is an incredible amount of work!

[Mags 112]

Despite the general moaning, which has always been the same, VJ hasn't changed at all. There is still the same level of discontent, rudeness and arguing that there has always been. The faces may have changed, but the content is the same.

However, lately there has been an excessive amount of racism and misogyny being allowed in OT. Not posted, as that has always been the case, but allowed. Anglophile women have also been the subject of numerous scathing posts which have largely gone ignored by VJ moderation. And it HAS been reported.

There is no longer any consistency to what is removed. It tends to all be down to the "luck of the draw" of which mod happens to be patrolling at what time.

A prime example is today. Currently, in OT, there are numerous digs and slights of a misogynistic or racist nature. These are being ignored. However a post, in LATIN, gets removed and the poster suspended! It doesn't matter that it is an obscene poem. It's not directed at anyone, it's not directed at a religion, a race or a single person.

It's a POEM. In LATIN. With ONE word in German. A word that is used throughout VJ on a daily basis.

And yet the other things I mentioned are still there. If we are using the TOS that strictly in OT, then I expect ALL of the other threads containing misogyny, racism and attacks on women of Anglophile descent to be removed also.

Be consistent.

Edit: grammar

Edited August 14, 2010 by Mags

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Be consistent.

Consistency is the hobgoblin (did I spell that right?) of small minds. VJ moderation, as we all know, consists of intellectual giants in their fields.