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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Guatemala
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Hello everyone and thank you SO much for taking the time to read my question. My partner and I plan to get married. We met with an immigration lawyer about the long process of paperwork, interviews etc. We're second guessing our desire to go through that whole process and are considering waiting things out for immigration law to change and a "pathway to citizenship" where he can become a citizen without leaving the country. My partner entered the USA without inspection over 4 years ago.

My questions are:

1 - After we get married, how soon are we required to submit the I 130 form? Is there a deadline? If not, what happens if we let the deadline pass? Why is there a deadline if there is one?

2- I learned that with a Tax ID number, when we get married he can use it to pay taxes and put him on my health insurance and investments; which is great. SO with this is mind, what risks may we be taking by deciding to "wait it out" and not go through the process? The pros are we can stay together and will not have to go back to his country (yet or ever). But what are we really risking here? So many undocumented workers live in USA for their entire lives without a problem. The TAX ID will solve our issue of his health insurance and retirement benefits. What real risks are there? If deportation in a risk, if it happens, we'll have a longer history of relationship and evidence to fight deportation etc. Why shouldn't we wait it out?

Thank you so much for your help!

~ Delicate Storm8

06/06/2009 - Met bf in the USA who is an EWI from Guatemala (I am a US Citizen)

07/03/10 - Met with Immigration lawyer, informally engaged

??/??/10 - Formal engagement (notifying family, etc.)

??/??/?? - Married

??/??/?? - File I-130

After marriage we plan to follow our lawyers advice and have him return to Guatemala to wait for the paperwork, interview, etc. to go through. We'll apply for a hardship waiver because he's been EWI in US for about 5 years. He plans to get his GED before he returns to Guatemala so he can go to university there while he waits. This makes more sense instead of him working FT for $200 a month when I can easily send him that money and he can go to school instead.

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Hello everyone and thank you SO much for taking the time to read my question. My partner and I plan to get married. We met with an immigration lawyer about the long process of paperwork, interviews etc. We're second guessing our desire to go through that whole process and are considering waiting things out for immigration law to change and a "pathway to citizenship" where he can become a citizen without leaving the country. My partner entered the USA without inspection over 4 years ago.

My questions are:

1 - After we get married, how soon are we required to submit the I 130 form? Is there a deadline? If not, what happens if we let the deadline pass? Why is there a deadline if there is one?

2- I learned that with a Tax ID number, when we get married he can use it to pay taxes and put him on my health insurance and investments; which is great. SO with this is mind, what risks may we be taking by deciding to "wait it out" and not go through the process? The pros are we can stay together and will not have to go back to his country (yet or ever). But what are we really risking here? So many undocumented workers live in USA for their entire lives without a problem. The TAX ID will solve our issue of his health insurance and retirement benefits. What real risks are there? If deportation in a risk, if it happens, we'll have a longer history of relationship and evidence to fight deportation etc.

Why shouldn't we wait it out?
Thank you so much for your help!

~ Delicate Storm8

Waiting it out could be another 20 years, if you know anything about American politics; but it's your choice.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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You never HAVE to file the I-130, only if you want to petition for him to get his green card

The risks? Well, immigration reform has been pending for 8 years and still nothing. So you may be in for a long wait. In the mean time, you risk him being caught and deported, his workplace could be raided or someone could report him. Simply being married and having a realtionship does nothing to 'fight the deportation', he still will be deported. This drastically decreases your chances of having any sort of reform benefit you. Also, simple things like speeding tickets, no licence etc also reduces your risk

So yes, there is a risk. Just because he hasn't been caught yet doesn't mean he won't.

Good luck

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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I'm not a 100% certain but if he entered without inspection you will not be able to adjust his status, since he has no status to adjust from.

Applying for a visa at a US Embassy in his homecountry will require him to leave to US, and when doing that he will incure atleast a 10 year ban from the US.

April 2007 : Met
07/28/07 : Officialy dating
06/07/09 : Engaged
09/04/09 : Married

10/06/09 : I-130 Sent
10/15/09 : NOA1
01/11/10 : Expedite Request Sent Through Congressman
01/14/10 : NOA2

01/22/10 : Got NVC casenumber
03/16/10 : Case Complete

05/04/10 : Medical
05/11/10 : Interview - APPROVED!!
05/14/10 : Passport w/ Visa recieved

05/29/10 : POE JFK
06/25/10 : Apply for SSN
06/29/10 : Received Welcome Letter
07/01/10 : Recieved SSN (33 days after POE)
07/07/10 : Greencard production ordered
07/13/10 : Second Welcome Letter recieved
07/15/10 : Green Card recieved (47 days after POE)

04/02/12 : ROC NOA1
05/24/12 : ROC Biometrics
12/19/12 : ROC Approval
12/24/12 : New GC recieved

3/18/16 : N-400 Application sent
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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Ok, first was he here before 2000? Before 911 people that came without inspection are still able to adjust. If he came after 911 then you both have no choice but for him to go back to his country. You also have to remember that there is a 10 years ban for staying illegally in the US once he leaves the country.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Iran
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As far as I know he cannot file for a green card without leaving the country since he entered without inspection.

As to "waiting" well he risk arrest, deportation, jail time, he can't work, he can't get a job. So if the thought of your husband being incarcerated and deported doesn't bother you take the risk.

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Guatemala
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Posted

You never HAVE to file the I-130, only if you want to petition for him to get his green card

The risks? Well, immigration reform has been pending for 8 years and still nothing. So you may be in for a long wait. In the mean time, you risk him being caught and deported, his workplace could be raided or someone could report him. Simply being married and having a realtionship does nothing to 'fight the deportation', he still will be deported. This drastically decreases your chances of having any sort of reform benefit you. Also, simple things like speeding tickets, no licence etc also reduces your risk

So yes, there is a risk. Just because he hasn't been caught yet doesn't mean he won't.

Good luck

Thanks for the info - I thought that after you get married you only have a window of time before you can't file the I130 anymore. Despite his status, he managed to get a license and a couple of tickets without any issue (interesting). Thanks again

~ Delicate Storm8

06/06/2009 - Met bf in the USA who is an EWI from Guatemala (I am a US Citizen)

07/03/10 - Met with Immigration lawyer, informally engaged

??/??/10 - Formal engagement (notifying family, etc.)

??/??/?? - Married

??/??/?? - File I-130

After marriage we plan to follow our lawyers advice and have him return to Guatemala to wait for the paperwork, interview, etc. to go through. We'll apply for a hardship waiver because he's been EWI in US for about 5 years. He plans to get his GED before he returns to Guatemala so he can go to university there while he waits. This makes more sense instead of him working FT for $200 a month when I can easily send him that money and he can go to school instead.

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Guatemala
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Posted

As far as I know he cannot file for a green card without leaving the country since he entered without inspection.

As to "waiting" well he risk arrest, deportation, jail time, he can't work, he can't get a job. So if the thought of your husband being incarcerated and deported doesn't bother you take the risk.

Thanks for your feedback. He works for himself since he arrived and is doing pretty well so work isn't an issue. Arrest..yes, that doesn't sound too good. But so far, no problems. Most nondocumented folks don't get deported OR arrested so sometimes I think we hype up the risk when it may not be as significant as we think. Possible yes, but arrest and deportation, I'm thinking..is unlikely.

~ Delicate Storm8

06/06/2009 - Met bf in the USA who is an EWI from Guatemala (I am a US Citizen)

07/03/10 - Met with Immigration lawyer, informally engaged

??/??/10 - Formal engagement (notifying family, etc.)

??/??/?? - Married

??/??/?? - File I-130

After marriage we plan to follow our lawyers advice and have him return to Guatemala to wait for the paperwork, interview, etc. to go through. We'll apply for a hardship waiver because he's been EWI in US for about 5 years. He plans to get his GED before he returns to Guatemala so he can go to university there while he waits. This makes more sense instead of him working FT for $200 a month when I can easily send him that money and he can go to school instead.

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Guatemala
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Posted

Ok, first was he here before 2000? Before 911 people that came without inspection are still able to adjust. If he came after 911 then you both have no choice but for him to go back to his country. You also have to remember that there is a 10 years ban for staying illegally in the US once he leaves the country.

Thanks for replying! Our lawyer asked us about that and he doesn't qualify for the adjustment. In terms of choice, there are two. 1 is "waiting it out" and hoping the laws will change for a pathway to citizenship. and 2 going back to his country. I know those two choices already, I'm trying to get feedback on exploring the pros and cons to each. I know about the 10 year band, that why we're considering "waiting it out".

~ Delicate Storm 8

06/06/2009 - Met bf in the USA who is an EWI from Guatemala (I am a US Citizen)

07/03/10 - Met with Immigration lawyer, informally engaged

??/??/10 - Formal engagement (notifying family, etc.)

??/??/?? - Married

??/??/?? - File I-130

After marriage we plan to follow our lawyers advice and have him return to Guatemala to wait for the paperwork, interview, etc. to go through. We'll apply for a hardship waiver because he's been EWI in US for about 5 years. He plans to get his GED before he returns to Guatemala so he can go to university there while he waits. This makes more sense instead of him working FT for $200 a month when I can easily send him that money and he can go to school instead.

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Guatemala
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Posted

Waiting it out could be another 20 years, if you know anything about American politics; but it's your choice.

YES this is what I'm thinking too. It could be 20 years, but 20 years we can be together without the immigration interview/documentation fests. It sounds good to wait 20 years for the law to change, especially if things continue to be good with no problems and issues. The tax ID actually solves a lot of my major concerns.

~ Delicate Storm 8

06/06/2009 - Met bf in the USA who is an EWI from Guatemala (I am a US Citizen)

07/03/10 - Met with Immigration lawyer, informally engaged

??/??/10 - Formal engagement (notifying family, etc.)

??/??/?? - Married

??/??/?? - File I-130

After marriage we plan to follow our lawyers advice and have him return to Guatemala to wait for the paperwork, interview, etc. to go through. We'll apply for a hardship waiver because he's been EWI in US for about 5 years. He plans to get his GED before he returns to Guatemala so he can go to university there while he waits. This makes more sense instead of him working FT for $200 a month when I can easily send him that money and he can go to school instead.

Posted

As far as I know he cannot file for a green card without leaving the country since he entered without inspection.

As to "waiting" well he risk arrest, deportation, jail time, he can't work, he can't get a job. So if the thought of your husband being incarcerated and deported doesn't bother you take the risk.

Her question was an honest one and many don't know the laws ..your answer was cryptic. If she didn't care she wouldn't ask! wacko.gif

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Iran
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Sorry allow me to clarify.

Since he entered without inspection he is not eligible to adjust status from inside the US (as she has already confirmed). He must either wait for immigration reform in the US or return to Mexico and try to obtain a waiver.

While he is in the country he cannot LEGALLY work, obtain a driver's license, or social security card. If he is misrepresenting himself as a US citizen he could incur a lifetime ban.

His risk for "waiting it out" involve the possibilities of arrest, incarceration, and deportation.

It is a legitimate question and I am simply pointing out the options and some consequences of each choice.

Posted

I suggest you go over to immigrate2us.net ; they have similar cases at times and probably could give you some advice.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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You misunderstood what I meant. Having tickets etc may hinder his benefit from any immigration reform.

Good luck

Thanks for the info - I thought that after you get married you only have a window of time before you can't file the I130 anymore. Despite his status, he managed to get a license and a couple of tickets without any issue (interesting). Thanks again

~ Delicate Storm8

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

 
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