we dont have pictures and we haven't been to each other's country

[Brendalee007 0]

i am so stressed out reading all these forums and seeing AP after approval and denials and such... really need things to go smoothly, we have been waiting so long before filing, but his education is now completed and i have had many health issues so really need him to get here quickly!

one thing i keep seeing listed as a necessity is photos of the wedding. we have none. we got married via phone and even if i had been there in person no photos would have been allowed. his family was mostly there, father and brothers, though mother of course was not allowed to go to mosque.

we have our nikah nama (notarized by ministry of foreign affairs), have marriage registration certificate/number (where it is filed with govt) and have a city court judge affidavit as well.

as for proof of ongoing relationship, before we were married we had many phone calls and many yahoo calls (thankfully free, i dont know what we would do without them! we would go crazy!!) and since marriage last year we have had a call plan on home phone for when internet is down (500 minutes a month that we usually go over = NOT good!) as well as cell calls for emergency or when i'm out of home if i am missing him too much (way too expensive) and of course free yahoo calls every day pretty much 16+hours a day on days i'm home (ok we are weird but soemtimes we even nap "together" we cant stand to be apart!) and some days less if we're fussing or are outside home.

thankfully i have multiple computers/laptops and can set him up wherever i am in house and we spend time together like that... he uses bluetooth on his end so he also isnt tethered to computer. most days it's like he is right here except he just isnt

anyway, we have no plane ticket stubs, no pictures together (neither of us are wild about photos in first place so wouldnt have any, or many, even if i were there)... neither of us have many photos in general!

he is part of our every day life, he guides and counsels our child (my child from previous marriage, divorced in 2003) and he is such a support to me daily.

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[Brendalee007 0]

Well, maybe you could do what was suggested to me. Although we've met and plan to meet again for 2-3 weeks in Romania. My agent told me that it's good to do a "Relationship History" Both of you write how you met, the way you relate to each other, what you love and don't like about each other, what you are grateful for. I would even put in there a comment that is very kind about how many people get married and go off to war and never consummate until the man returns. I would say that you are looking forward to your honeymoon and lives together. Get notorized statements from friends and family that say they are aware of your relationship and know of your plans and feelings. That they see him online every time they come over there to your house and you two are always talking. I don't know if they allow video dvd/cds but maybe you could send them some type of video. I'm not sure about that. Also, not seeing your man in person is a drawback for sure and it is required but, you have your medical information and I would also state that the dangers of going over there as a single woman without an escort was something that you considered. My fiance and I were going to get married in Pakistan because it's cheaper and we want to really be together. But He was so concerned about my safety, and then the airplane crashed and the floods came and we just said,"NO"...So we decided on the fiance visa instead.

Don't feel weird about the sleeping thing. He'll be at work and I'm on cam asleep because it makes me feel better. Safer and closer to him. And when his work starts to bother him and he gets stressed, he pops me up there on the cam. I think of him all day in the car, wondering if he'll love the things I love and be amazed at this country.

I would like to say something that did take a moment of adjustment. What I saw on the cam did not look like him as much in person. None of his pics were like him in person. I knew it was him but they were dated photos with different hair and he looked much taller. But I assure you, after the initial shock, I was undone! Never found anyone to make me feel like he does. I must say, Pakistani men are very sweet and kind and very hospitable. Well, the good ones, are, lol. And I found one of the good ones.

I don't know what type of health issues you have that you cannot fly. But truthfully, they have awesome accomidations on airlines now for sick, handicapped or disabled people. You should call some airlines and find out what they have available and go online and look something up. Do some research because I think to set your mind at ease and to get approval, you should really meet him. I would suggest Romania or Dubai. Just no demonstrations of affection in public in Dubai or you can go to jail for kissing. And tell him to bring your marriage cert. You should also have a copy. I know of a wealthy man who has been married over 7 years to a woman in Mexico. they have been denied all of those years. And they meet all the requirements. So who knows what will happen? Just pray and do all that you can to de-stress and go meet him. Good luck! If I think of anything else to show, I'll certainly tell you.

[desert_fox 32]

Well, maybe you could do what was suggested to me. Although we've met and plan to meet again for 2-3 weeks in Romania. My agent told me that it's good to do a "Relationship History" Both of you write how you met, the way you relate to each other, what you love and don't like about each other, what you are grateful for. I would even put in there a comment that is very kind about how many people get married and go off to war and never consummate until the man returns. I would say that you are looking forward to your honeymoon and lives together. Get notorized statements from friends and family that say they are aware of your relationship and know of your plans and feelings. That they see him online every time they come over there to your house and you two are always talking. I don't know if they allow video dvd/cds but maybe you could send them some type of video. I'm not sure about that. Also, not seeing your man in person is a drawback for sure and it is required but, you have your medical information and I would also state that the dangers of going over there as a single woman without an escort was something that you considered. My fiance and I were going to get married in Pakistan because it's cheaper and we want to really be together. But He was so concerned about my safety, and then the airplane crashed and the floods came and we just said,"NO"...So we decided on the fiance visa instead.

Don't feel weird about the sleeping thing. He'll be at work and I'm on cam asleep because it makes me feel better. Safer and closer to him. And when his work starts to bother him and he gets stressed, he pops me up there on the cam. I think of him all day in the car, wondering if he'll love the things I love and be amazed at this country.

I would like to say something that did take a moment of adjustment. What I saw on the cam did not look like him as much in person. None of his pics were like him in person. I knew it was him but they were dated photos with different hair and he looked much taller. But I assure you, after the initial shock, I was undone! Never found anyone to make me feel like he does. I must say, Pakistani men are very sweet and kind and very hospitable. Well, the good ones, are, lol. And I found one of the good ones.

I don't know what type of health issues you have that you cannot fly. But truthfully, they have awesome accomidations on airlines now for sick, handicapped or disabled people. You should call some airlines and find out what they have available and go online and look something up. Do some research because I think to set your mind at ease and to get approval, you should really meet him. I would suggest Romania or Dubai. Just no demonstrations of affection in public in Dubai or you can go to jail for kissing. And tell him to bring your marriage cert. You should also have a copy. I know of a wealthy man who has been married over 7 years to a woman in Mexico. they have been denied all of those years. And they meet all the requirements. So who knows what will happen? Just pray and do all that you can to de-stress and go meet him. Good luck! If I think of anything else to show, I'll certainly tell you.

Get real. There is not a US Consulate on this planet that will issue a visa based upon marriage when the couple has never met in person. Futhermore the Consulate wants to see a relationship history; be convinced that this is a valid relationship. One short visit will not suffice.

Just think of the via fraud possibilities if you could get a visa based upon marriage without ever having met in person.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Maybe I'm overly sensitive today, but it actually kind of angers me that people want to go through this process but get around the requirements. Meanwhile, the rest of us with valid, legitimate relationships work incredibly hard to get all our evidence together, get all our paperwork completed, spend the days and months waiting, but knowing we are doing things the proper legal, way.

You do not have a relationship. Not one that you can prove, and yet you want the same privileges as the rest of us? Not going to happen.

[moroccogirlny 100]

I petitioned 1 year after knowing my husband, made 2 trips within that year and we still got denied the K1. I would really like to see if this case even gets past the NVC.

[yohino 22]

I petitioned 1 year after knowing my husband, made 2 trips within that year and we still got denied the K1. I would really like to see if this case even gets past the NVC.

I would be suprised if it got past USCIS.

Sorry to the OP but you have to find a way to meet in person.

[Darnell 8,478]

this is my last post in this thread because i asked a question and only a few took the time to answer that question (thank you to those); many (like pack mentality) decided to pick apart something which was NOT asked about and some made derogatory remarks (i would never wish ill upon anyone, not even my enemies!) and others inserted their own "facts" into our case which are NOT correct.

so, good luck to you ALL and thanks again to those of you who gave me add'l ideas of supporting evidence

OK - maybe it's time to close this topic, lock it down ?

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I agree. All of the arguments have been made and the OP is not receptive to hearing the information presented. It appears that her own personal experience will be the only way she will learn. As the OP has said she is not responding anymore in this thread and as there really isn't anything more to be gained for anyone from continuing this thread, I am going to close it to further comments. If the OP wishes to re-open a thread based upon further developments in her situation, that will be fine.