need some perspective....

[Melissa1 0]

ok...this may be long and i may be too "serious" of a topic....but i am very frustrated and so maybe looking at this with cloudy judgment.

i was working as a stylist at a salon....when i was out i ran into a girl who i used to work with and she was out with the owner of the new salon she was working at. So i went over and had a chat with the owner lady. She seemed interested and I TOLD HER I DID NOT HAVE A FULL CLIENTELE. So i dropped into the salon and we had a few more talks....then decided i would start there. It seemed great....it was close by and it was just a cute small salon...only 3 chairs and commission pay. This girl i used to work with had no clientele but she was still getting appointments and making decent money.

SO....i gave my two weeks at this old salon and decided it would be perfect after leaving that job to go visit my hunny in canada for a few weeks then start at this new salon when i got back. So I talked to the owner about my starting date....we decided on saturday (yesterday) since i wouldn't be getting back into the states until late this past thursday. SHE told ME to drop off my list of clients and my work schedule before i went to canada and she would send something out to them all while i was gone and that she would start booking appointments with me in the mean time. So i drop the stuff off the day before leaving....the owner is not there and that's when i find out there's another girl who also works there.

Now i planned on sending something out to the clients on my own so i'm thinking this is great....she offered so ya i'll let her do it!!

So i get home and i call her friday afternoon to see what going on. No answer so i leave her a message. i call the girl i previously work with and she asks when i'm starting....i tell her tomorrow i think....she says well i think she said something about you starting on monday because we don't have any chairs open on saturday. So...i try the lady back again later...no answer.

She calls and leaves me a message Sat. (yesterday) morning and says all this:

I see your work schedule here and your not working as much as i expected you to (she never told me how many hours she wanted me to work and she told me to drop off when i wanted to work)

Then she tells me that i can come in on tuesday and start calling all my clients to book them with me because she won't be able to send something out to them until maybe next week (ok i did not get my clients phone numbers prior to leaving my old salon because my plane was to mail them all something....i would find it annoying if a stylist called my house trying to get me to set up a hair appointment...a simple flyer would be good enough but that's just me, plus she told me she would send them something WHILE i was in canada)

Then thursday we'd all get our picture taken, do some advertising and a color class(that's all good)

BUT never did she mention when i would be starting or that she had booked any appointments with me.

Ok so I know i need to do my share....or most of it. But when i'm told that something will be send out it should be. When i'm told she will start booking clients she should. She had no problems booking people with this girl i know working there .

I could call my clients but that's still not enough business for me to survive off of....and I CLEARLY TOLD HER THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. So she should be booking appointments.

I cannot wait another week at least to start....I NEED MONEY....and i planned on starting saturday like i was told. She gets loads of money from her rich ex-husband so i don't think she understands that really.

So to end this long ole thing.....I called her back yesterday after receiving her message....no answer....i left a message saying ok i can work more hours that's fine.....just give me a call back and let me know when you'll be in the salon and i can stop by. (She's never there....i live a block away and have gone up there several times to talk to her) SHE HAS NOT CALLED BACK YET.

So i'm thinking screw it...this much hassle and drama and i haven't even started yet!?!?!?!?

Now i am looking for another job....and i feel so weird....basically unemployed...which is scary.

So i guess for those of you who didn't fall asleep.....my question is what would you do in the same situation???

[Ban Hammer 13,573]

reading that, it sounds to me like they saw you as a way to increase their customer base. and very little benefit for you btw.

[Melissa1 0]

reading that, it sounds to me like they saw you as a way to increase their customer base. and very little benefit for you btw.

But the thing is....I definitely do not have a full clientele....I have a decent amount but not enough by any means to fill up my schedule. So I don't know how much it's going to help them.

[Ban Hammer 13,573]

reading that, it sounds to me like they saw you as a way to increase their customer base. and very little benefit for you btw.

But the thing is....I definitely do not have a full clientele....I have a decent amount but not enough by any means to fill up my schedule. So I don't know how much it's going to help them.

and the person that would benefit the most is the owner.....

[Melissa1 0]

and the person that would benefit the most is the owner.....

So then i'm not being irrational by saying screw it and finding something else then??

[Ban Hammer 13,573]

and the person that would benefit the most is the owner.....

So then i'm not being irrational by saying screw it and finding something else then??

that would be what i'd do. but wait and see what others offer for advice just to get a quorum.

[Melissa1 0]

that would be what i'd do. but wait and see what others offer for advice just to get a quorum.

k thanks!

[keltic 1]

keep in mind also that she now has your list of clients... and will be contacting them...

if you choose not to work with her, you need to contact those clients yourself so that they are not confused

its not professional for communication with her to be so difficult... you should have returned calls within 24 hours, in my opinion

[Fandango 1,440]

ok...this may be long and i may be too "serious" of a topic....but i am very frustrated and so maybe looking at this with cloudy judgment.

i was working as a stylist at a salon....when i was out i ran into a girl who i used to work with and she was out with the owner of the new salon she was working at. So i went over and had a chat with the owner lady. She seemed interested and I TOLD HER I DID NOT HAVE A FULL CLIENTELE. So i dropped into the salon and we had a few more talks....then decided i would start there. It seemed great....it was close by and it was just a cute small salon...only 3 chairs and commission pay. This girl i used to work with had no clientele but she was still getting appointments and making decent money.

SO....i gave my two weeks at this old salon and decided it would be perfect after leaving that job to go visit my hunny in canada for a few weeks then start at this new salon when i got back. So I talked to the owner about my starting date....we decided on saturday (yesterday) since i wouldn't be getting back into the states until late this past thursday. SHE told ME to drop off my list of clients and my work schedule before i went to canada and she would send something out to them all while i was gone and that she would start booking appointments with me in the mean time. So i drop the stuff off the day before leaving....the owner is not there and that's when i find out there's another girl who also works there.

Now i planned on sending something out to the clients on my own so i'm thinking this is great....she offered so ya i'll let her do it!!

So i get home and i call her friday afternoon to see what going on. No answer so i leave her a message. i call the girl i previously work with and she asks when i'm starting....i tell her tomorrow i think....she says well i think she said something about you starting on monday because we don't have any chairs open on saturday. So...i try the lady back again later...no answer.

She calls and leaves me a message Sat. (yesterday) morning and says all this:

I see your work schedule here and your not working as much as i expected you to (she never told me how many hours she wanted me to work and she told me to drop off when i wanted to work)

Then she tells me that i can come in on tuesday and start calling all my clients to book them with me because she won't be able to send something out to them until maybe next week (ok i did not get my clients phone numbers prior to leaving my old salon because my plane was to mail them all something....i would find it annoying if a stylist called my house trying to get me to set up a hair appointment...a simple flyer would be good enough but that's just me, plus she told me she would send them something WHILE i was in canada)

Then thursday we'd all get our picture taken, do some advertising and a color class(that's all good)

BUT never did she mention when i would be starting or that she had booked any appointments with me.

Ok so I know i need to do my share....or most of it. But when i'm told that something will be send out it should be. When i'm told she will start booking clients she should. She had no problems booking people with this girl i know working there .

I could call my clients but that's still not enough business for me to survive off of....and I CLEARLY TOLD HER THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. So she should be booking appointments.

I cannot wait another week at least to start....I NEED MONEY....and i planned on starting saturday like i was told. She gets loads of money from her rich ex-husband so i don't think she understands that really.

So to end this long ole thing.....I called her back yesterday after receiving her message....no answer....i left a message saying ok i can work more hours that's fine.....just give me a call back and let me know when you'll be in the salon and i can stop by. (She's never there....i live a block away and have gone up there several times to talk to her) SHE HAS NOT CALLED BACK YET.

So i'm thinking screw it...this much hassle and drama and i haven't even started yet!?!?!?!?

Now i am looking for another job....and i feel so weird....basically unemployed...which is scary.

So i guess for those of you who didn't fall asleep.....my question is what would you do in the same situation???

Well, I worked in the beauty industry for about 13 years or so, so I know firsthand what you're talking about.

First of all, I'm sorry to say, but NEVER EVER EVER give out your client list to anyone! No no no no.....why would you do that? They are YOUR customers that you've worked hard for...and bringing them into another salon, they should stay yours...meaning...no fone numbers at the front desk, no last names, nothing...they are not the fruits of the owner's labor, therefore you should protect them with everything you have! Secondly...if you're not fully booked with a big clientelle, how are you going to build one at a place with 3 chairs?

This lady seems like a fruit loop and you'd do well to stay farrrr away from that whole situation. I don't know how many times you've taken your clientelle from one salon to the other, but the bottom line is, you will lose some, if not most, in the shuffle. People are creatures of habit, and don't like to change unless they have to...so when picking a salon, you have to pick what's right for THEM as well as you...because if they don't like it, you're screwed.

I don't know what the answer is, I would have totally called my clients BEFORE going to Canada...you miss one cut that they sit in someone else's chair for....and then it's harder to get them back. But I suppose the answer is find someplace QUICK and call your clients! I think as a rule, clients like to feel they have a close bond to their hairdresser/nail tech/etc...and a flyer would get thrown out, but a 'Hey, Jeanie, I've moved' cannot be ignored.

And next time you want to move, I'd suggest you waiting like 3 months to poll all your clients in their normal cycle to see who would be interested in going, and who wouldn't. You can discreetly talk to each one of them, and they will prolly even chime in on what they feel is important in a new salon. You get them excited, they'll move.

I worked my way up to be a regional mgr in a VERY large nails only chain of salons. (I later worked in full service, but that's not the point)...when my girls would leave, it was my job to make sure her customers did not follow, and I'd throw a month of free nail services at them to make them stay. The bottom line is, people don't like to change, and without proper planning of a move, most won't, imo.

I'm sorry!

[Kajikit 65]

Sounds to me like they just wanted to poach your customers... they didn't want you at all - just your list of contacts! I really hope you didn't give them anything they can use without you...

Edited August 14, 2006 by Kajikit