What do you guys think.....?

[TheJesal 2]

I dont have a problem with it, mostly because my father came here from India back in the late 60s and applied for my mother to join him.

Without that then i wouldnt be sitting here today as a US-born citizen.

I do however have issues with illegal immigrants being here but thats a whole different matter.

[belinda63 3,038]

Well are we speaking of British english, proper english (American style), urban english, or southern english. When my brother went to school in Boston and came home for the summer he sounded like a foreigner to us Texans. And I still "cut off the light" despite not having lived in Texas for more than 20 years.

But to the original question regarding immigrants bringing immigrants here some countries it does seem like they want to move every one related by one drop of blood here. Good? Bad? If they pay taxes, don't live off my taxes, and don't break the law what does it matter? We have plenty of native born Americans who can't do that.

[mamamimi 8]

But to the original question regarding immigrants bringing immigrants here some countries it does seem like they want to move every one related by one drop of blood here. Good? Bad? If they pay taxes, don't live off my taxes, and don't break the law what does it matter? We have plenty of native born Americans who can't do that.

Great answer Belinda, I agree with you a !00%, now let's get back to what we are really here for... I am finishing up I-864 and DS-230 got some questions to post later!

Emily

[sachinky 465]

By English, I mean an ability to construct sentences properly in the correct tense, use punctuation and grammar appropriately and successfully convey what you want to say. I'm not talking about differences in accents or regional quirks.

[sachinky 465]

Your brother, still spoke ENGLISH, presumably, on his return from Boston. He might have sounded 'foreign' but you could understand him, for all accounts and purposes?

I don't care if it is British, American, Southern, or Urban English as long as it is 'understandable.'

[Skye_Cohen 1]

perhaps one who takes offense can enlighten me, what is offensive about bringing family members from other countries? "this village immigration" as someone put it (sorry forgot who). US immigration law does not allow one bringing their village over here as we all know, so if it is family, and it is a big family, what is offensive about that?

'not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand a viewpoint 'i don't share.

[Zai & Gary 6]

My two cents worth:

Whether they are a USC now or will be in the future or will remain a LPR, I have no problem with people bringing their family as long as it is done legally and they become a productive member of our society and work to earn a living and pay their fair share of taxes. I have seen (in person) the way many foreigners live and the suffering they endure on a daily basis year after year. I sure would miss my family if I was the Immigrant here and I had the means of giving them a better life by bringing them here legally. If you think about it, unless you are an American Indian..... we are ALL immigrants. I am a 3rd generation USC by birth but my Great Grandparents were immigrants from Europe.

Illegal immigration is another story. I can sympathize with the ones who are just trying to make a better life for their families but violating the US Immigration laws is not the thing to do. Many who do come here illegally do so because they will never have the money or resources to go through the Immigration system properly. They bypass the system because it is their only option for a better life. I do not approve of this, but I do understand their reasons. What if you were living in a foreign country in miserable poverty and saw the green grass on this side of the fence? Wouldn't you be at least a little tempted to come here the only method possible for you?

As far as the use of poor English and grammar, I agree there is a lot. As a matter of fact, education in general in the USA is taken for granted in my opinion. My English and Grammar are not perfect by far (I speak Tex-lish :) ). Of course, there are many people who are very difficult to understand and these are the ones you are referring to. In time their speaking and writing skills will improve but for now, we must be understanding and helpful to them. After all, this is a nation of immigrants and we are all brothers and sisters in this country.

[Julie y Pat 67]

I can't believe some of the ####### I'm reading in this thread. The OP loses all credibility to discuss others' comments written in "terribly" English, with their own disregard for correct grammar and proper use of punctuation. A person's age goes up by one each year, no more no less. Has anyone ever been able to sponsor their entire village with an approved I-864 before they get a green card? And isn't this a family based immigration community? As far as English being a requirement for immigration, how can we ask that of potential immigrants when we don't hold our own citizens to that standard. Sachinky, not every immigrant comes from a country where English is spoken, or have had the opportunity to go to college in the US. This is a nation of immigrants, even the American Indians were immigrants at one time. So unless you are from the Greater Rift Valley in Africa where it is believed the human species originated, your ancestors immigrated from somewhere else.

[Nica_In_Love 98]

I can't believe some of the ####### I'm reading in this thread. The OP loses all credibility to discuss others' comments written in "terribly" English, with their own disregard for correct grammar and proper use of punctuation. A person's age goes up by one each year, no more no less. Has anyone ever been able to sponsor their entire village with an approved I-864 before they get a green card? And isn't this a family based immigration community? As far as English being a requirement for immigration, how can we ask that of potential immigrants when we don't hold our own citizens to that standard. Sachinky, not every immigrant comes from a country where English is spoken, or have had the opportunity to go to college in the US. This is a nation of immigrants, even the American Indians were immigrants at one time. So unless you are from the Greater Rift Valley in Africa where it is believed the human species originated, your ancestors immigrated from somewhere else.

AMEN!

[DanielParul 50]

I can't believe some of the ####### I'm reading in this thread. The OP loses all credibility to discuss others' comments written in "terribly" English, with their own disregard for correct grammar and proper use of punctuation. A person's age goes up by one each year, no more no less. Has anyone ever been able to sponsor their entire village with an approved I-864 before they get a green card? And isn't this a family based immigration community? As far as English being a requirement for immigration, how can we ask that of potential immigrants when we don't hold our own citizens to that standard. Sachinky, not every immigrant comes from a country where English is spoken, or have had the opportunity to go to college in the US. This is a nation of immigrants, even the American Indians were immigrants at one time. So unless you are from the Greater Rift Valley in Africa where it is believed the human species originated, your ancestors immigrated from somewhere else.

+2

[kandl133 0]

I don't care at all.... as long as they are legal. This process is so long and trying for those of us attempting legal immigration I believe illegal immigrants should not be allowed. If you are legal and you came in the right way - God Bless ya!... if you are illegal then ... please .... leave... the US is not the Mothers Milk of the whole world and anyway this teet has nearly run dry... even for those legal citizens or natural born...

[tokyo.lovers 6]

i would like to see some charts that shows how many GC holders or naturalized people petition vs born citizens.

[sachinky 465]

No, no one is able to sponsor their entire village with an approved I-864 before they get a green card but there are plenty who do post on VJ asking 'when or how soon can I bring in my mother/father/brother/sister' even before they've immigrated themselves.

Perhaps I should've clarified. I don't have a problem with 'mother/father/brother/sister' immigrating, but it does make me a little skeptical of the fiance/CR-1 visa holder and their relationship with the USC. I wonder if they are truly invested in this relationship for 'love' or whether it is merely a stepping-stone for them and their families to come to the US.

As for the language requirement -- yes, I'm perfectly aware that not every immigrant comes from a country where English is spoken, or have had the opportunity to go to college in the US. But English is the primary spoken language of these United States and if one is unable to communicate, how is one expected to assimilate, intergrate or even survive? I ran into a couple of Indians at the airport who were on the same flight as I was. They didn't speak a word of English. Not one. They were confused, distraught about missing their next flight, unable to follow the IO's instructions or directions, and practically begging me for help. I did help her out but I was really angry at that woman's husband for putting her through the ordeal. He should've never let her get on that plane alone and instead should've accompanied her to the US from India. I can't imagine being alone in a foreign country without being able to speak a word of the language--it can be potentially terrifying. Now, mind you, I'm not talking about 78 year-old grandmothers, but young men and women in their late 20s, maybe. It really makes me wonder, do these people aim to cling to their USC petitioners 24/7?

I don't think it is absolutely unreasonable to ask that intending immigrants be able to string together a few, reasonably simple sentences in English. I'm not talking about flawless, Nobel Prize-winning literature here. It is solely for their sake and would go a long way in making the cultural adjustment smoother.

I would never plan on immigrating to Germany if I was unable to speak even a lick of German. Two weeks as a tourist in France with a English-to-French dictionary was enough for me.

Edited July 30, 2010 by sachinky

[Indy90 21]

As long as I can understand it I don't care. I fumble around with several languages other than English and understand how difficult it can be...and I really have no desire to spend 5 minutes editing every post. Now, people that write in all caps or insult people despite committing errors themselves...that annoys me.

And I believe that people have the right to be with their family. It is pretty ridiculous that permanent residence have to wait so long to bring their spouse and children; I mean, if they will bring them someday, why make them wait years?

[Dana-Mića 51]

Why should people learn English when this country makes it possible for them to go on living here without knowing any. You have translations almost everywhere especially gov't. offices/buildings with languages such as Spanish, Russian, Chinese, French, etc.. I mean when I went to take the Neutralization exam last month they had Spanish directions to the seating area, bathroom, etc. (and you are going there to become an American, you are expected to learn English).

As for bringing family over here, what is the trick? I have a few members I would love to bring here legally (other than my husband whose process is about to start in a week or two).

This is a country of immigrants and if you love languages enjoy it. I love the area I live in because so far I have become almost fluent in Spanish, I can greet a person in Arabic and wish them a healthy meal, I can curse in Chinese as well as some of my American-Chinese friends (but I wont do it on here), and all my friends know how to say at least "how are you?" in Sebrian/Croatian/Bosnian/Montenegrian/Macedonian.