GM Volt's price induces some sticker shock

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I'll pass on the $800/month car payment to save $100/month in gas.

Higher electric bill will reduce that hundred bucks too.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Higher electric bill will reduce that hundred bucks too.

I thought electricity was magical. You mean we might have to build more power plants?

In that case make mine a nuke. Sorry to scare the technologically ignorant.

[HAL 9000 96]

Companies are now offering leasing for PV (solar) units that are transferable when the home is sold. You gotta stop being pessimistic and imagine the possibilities. Ingenuity is and will be the driving force behind such solutions. With government incentives, the solar energy industry is taking off, and as far as cost goes - people spend about the same on building pools in their backyards as they would spend on converting their home to solar.

With all the 'personal responsibility' hypocrites out there, its amazing some of them find it hard to see the value in having their own PV electricity powering their own E cars. Strange.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The CCX! Chicago Climate Exchange

Barrack Obama, George Soros, Al Gore, Goldman Sachs, Franklin Raines (super crooked Fannie Mae head), CCX, and Generation Investment Management (GIM-London based co-founded by AL Gore).

Know the crooks and their roles:

George Soros, Joyce Foundation and connection to CCX.

What is CCX, the Chicago Climate Exchange, projected to gross 10 Trillion a year is Cap-N-Tax passes. Obama played a pivotal role in the formation of the CCX. (Click here for expose)

Barrack Hussein Obama, Board Member of the Joyce Foundation, funded the formation of the CCX. (

Valerie Jarrett is still on the board, Obama’s top adviser.) Obama sat on board and funneled money to Ayer’s brother (wild huh, just a guy in his neighborhood) and to form the CCX.

Franklin Raines, mega crooked banker and bust Fannie Mae head, uses Fannie Mae (taxpayers money) to buy the technology to measure and manage carbon. The patent was award the day after Obama and Dems won the election.

Edited July 28, 2010 by Col. Lingus

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I thought electricity was magical. You mean we might have to build more power plants?

In that case make mine a nuke. Sorry to scare the technologically ignorant.

You're going to build more plants whether there are electric cars or not. All of those illegals need electricity too.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvM4tjNnQIo

[The_Dude 1,142]

Even though I am a hardline US Patriot, I will always defer to Japanese GERMAN technology on automobiles.

Why: Because, over the years, I have repaired too many Ford's and Chevy's before the note was paid off. This has never been the case with a Japanese vehicle, including my 3 years in Japan.

It all boils down to economics, plain and simple. Why pay for "regular" repairs, when you can get 200K of trouble free miles with a Japanese vehicle?

Seems like a slam dunk to me....

fixx0red

In all seriousness though when you plug your car in and are getting electricity from a GAS POWERED generators?

[HAL 9000 96]

still more CO2 into the atmosphere ...

The increase in PV tech would make this car's tech worth it for many.

[Ban Hammer 13,877]

Higher electric bill will reduce that hundred bucks too.

until the lng plants come online, which will be even more.

[DEDixon 39]

If everyone thought about it like this, we'd all be living in caves. Remember when computers cost thousands of dollars and did basically nothing? Remember when cell phones first came out? HD tv's? Remember when anti-lock brakes were only on Formula 1 cars? Ditto for traction control. There will be many technologies that will lead us away from oil. It's not a straight line from point A to point B. There will be many curves and stops along the way. The technologies will get cheaper as they do over time. Think about the computer the size of a small house and now pick up your laptop.

a cell phone, a HD TV, anti-locking brakes, traction control - they never cost 10s of thousands of dollars. they are not in the same league as going solar so this comparison is irrelevant.

sure tech gets better, but solar is a long way off because it is competing with gas, coal and oil all of which are in great supply so very difficult to convince ordinary people to convert.

i just happen to believe that consumers aren't the place to start with solar. industry is the place to experiment for now. industry can afford it a lot more than consumers and industry is much smarter when it comes to writing off investments of all types.

electric cars are a joke. hybrids are impressive, however.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

With all the 'personal responsibility' hypocrites out there, its amazing some of them find it hard to see the value in having their own PV electricity powering their own E cars. Strange.

To me the biggest reason I don't want an electric car is because I like my big V8. Color me an old ####### but I just want to hear and feel that power when I stomp on the peddle. This new fangled stuff is for my grandkids to make popular.

[HAL 9000 96]

a cell phone, a HD TV, anti-locking brakes, traction control - they never cost 10s of thousands of dollars. they are not in the same league as going solar so this comparison is irrelevant.

sure tech gets better, but solar is a long way off because it is competing with gas, coal and oil all of which are in great supply so very difficult to convince ordinary people to convert.

i just happen to believe that consumers aren't the place to start with solar. industry is the place to experiment for now. industry can afford it a lot more than consumers and industry is much smarter when it comes to writing off investments of all types.

electric cars are a joke. hybrids are impressive, however.

are you looking at it relative to the platform each device is located? Probably not.

think back to what VCRs cost in the 70s and think what BluRay players cost now.

now compare $41K for a car now to what it will cost once the technology is in full market use.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

a cell phone, a HD TV, anti-locking brakes, traction control - they never cost 10s of thousands of dollars. they are not in the same league as going solar so this comparison is irrelevant.

sure tech gets better, but solar is a long way off because it is competing with gas, coal and oil all of which are in great supply so very difficult to convince ordinary people to convert.

i just happen to believe that consumers aren't the place to start with solar. industry is the place to experiment for now. industry can afford it a lot more than consumers and industry is much smarter when it comes to writing off investments of all types.

electric cars are a joke. hybrids are impressive, however.

The point wasn't that they cost tens of thousands of dollars, but that the prices came down drastically. I remember when an LCD tv or whatever the tech was at the time was over $10,000. Hybrids are impressive because you say so? Ok, BY.

[DEDixon 39]

With all the 'personal responsibility' hypocrites out there, its amazing some of them find it hard to see the value in having their own PV electricity powering their own E cars. Strange.

value is the key word. very few values it at 41,000 dollars (starting at 41,000 dollars).

[HAL 9000 96]

To me the biggest reason I don't want an electric car is because I like my big V8. Color me an old ####### but I just want to hear and feel that power when I stomp on the peddle. This new fangled stuff is for my grandkids to make popular.

It is a nice feel. And nobody will prohibit you from feeling that at $12.00/gal

value is the key word. very few values it at 41,000 dollars (starting at 41,000 dollars).

I agree. The cost, for the speed that technology changes these days, is too high.

I foresee GM reducing the price steadily once this pilot sales period is over. Remember it hasn't hit all 50 states yet- only 7 will be selling it at first.